MJW wrote:Caradoc wrote:Fitz seems to project as an elite safety-corner hybrid. I’d value that as much as any corner unless you are talking a Revis type shutdown corner. Gives defenses a lot of options and a lot of playmaking opportunities. The way the game has changed really alters the relative value of the safety and corner positions especially for someone who can be a true hybrid.
The most valuable thing any defense can have is a pass rusher who wins consistently.
The next most valuable thing any defense can have is a corner who can shut his guy down.
If a versatile safety was as valuable as a lockdown corner, Honey Badger would still be in Arizona and Peterson would be gone.
Ward has that kind of ability in coverage. Is anyone going to say he's going to be a Hall of Famer like Darrelle Revis five months before his first NFL game? Obviously not. But he's as good a pure corner cover prospect as you're going to get coming into the league. He's not one of these 6'2 dudes who looks like a safety, obviously, like Peterson or Ramsey. But, like, "go cover that guy and don't give him any room to breathe?" He's that guy.
Unless Chubb is there, we'd be fools to pass on a corner like this.
You have an extremely overly simplistic view of things.
And if honey badger had stayed healthy he’d probably still be in AZ.
At the risk of being rude, there has been a lot of stuff like your “the most valuable thing a team can have is X” in order. It’s a cliche, just like the people saying Licht sucks because ”you build a defense from front to back”. People seem to think repeating these things makes them sound like astute pros, but it doesn’t. It makes you sound like you just spout cliches and don’t think beyond that.
The game has changed since those cliches started, and both completely ignore circumstance. Sherman is a good corner, but Thomas meant a lot more to that defense. The AZ defense wasn’t the same after Tyrann got hurt.
Positional value is nice, but it isn’t the end all be all people make it a it to be. There is more than one way to skin a cat.