Alpha wrote:Here ya go kids. Read it and weep"
1) Alabama
2) Clemson
3) Oklahoma
4) Miami
Oklahoma will get TCU again on a neutral field.
Miami and Clemson will play for the ACC title
Alabama still has Auburn (and assuming they win), Georgia.
This is gonna end in chaos. Mark my words. Wouldn't be at all surprised if we have multiple 2 loss teams getting in over undefeated teams. It's not I would do personally but I could see it happening.
KiffininCanton wrote:Alpha wrote:Here ya go kids. Read it and weep"
1) Alabama
2) Clemson
3) Oklahoma
4) Miami
Oklahoma will get TCU again on a neutral field.
Miami and Clemson will play for the ACC title
Alabama still has Auburn (and assuming they win), Georgia.
This is gonna end in chaos. Mark my words. Wouldn't be at all surprised if we have multiple 2 loss teams getting in over undefeated teams. It's not I would do personally but I could see it happening.
unless you're referring to UCF, that seems to be hyperbole (especially with undefeated teams being plural). No Power 5 conference undefeated has any chance of getting passed over by a two loss team other than maybe Wisconsin. And I'm not sure that is going to happen. A hypothetical win over Ohio State in the Big Ten title game will boost their resume. Only 2 loss team I could see passing them in that scenario is a 2 loss Auburn team with 2 wins over Georgia and a win over Alabama.
KiffininCanton wrote:Alpha wrote:Here ya go kids. Read it and weep"
1) Alabama
2) Clemson
3) Oklahoma
4) Miami
Oklahoma will get TCU again on a neutral field.
Miami and Clemson will play for the ACC title
Alabama still has Auburn (and assuming they win), Georgia.
This is gonna end in chaos. Mark my words. Wouldn't be at all surprised if we have multiple 2 loss teams getting in over undefeated teams. It's not I would do personally but I could see it happening.
unless you're referring to UCF, that seems to be hyperbole (especially with undefeated teams being plural). No Power 5 conference undefeated has any chance of getting passed over by a two loss team other than maybe Wisconsin. And I'm not sure that is going to happen. A hypothetical win over Ohio State in the Big Ten title game will boost their resume. Only 2 loss team I could see passing them in that scenario is a 2 loss Auburn team with 2 wins over Georgia and a win over Alabama.
Cheb wrote:All of these debates would be moot if there was an eight team playoff. Every conference winner from the Power 5 would automatically get a spot, the last three would be at-large committee selections.
Let's do this.
Alpha wrote:KiffininCanton wrote:
unless you're referring to UCF, that seems to be hyperbole (especially with undefeated teams being plural). No Power 5 conference undefeated has any chance of getting passed over by a two loss team other than maybe Wisconsin. And I'm not sure that is going to happen. A hypothetical win over Ohio State in the Big Ten title game will boost their resume. Only 2 loss team I could see passing them in that scenario is a 2 loss Auburn team with 2 wins over Georgia and a win over Alabama.
As I also mentioned, it's not "how I would do it personally"...but I could see an undefeated Wisconsin getting passed over. I could even see Miami getting passed over (specifically if Clemson shits the bed again).
Never forget how much of an SEC bias there still is. Granted the 1 point Georgia win over Notre Dame doesn't look so impressive any longer but it DID until about an hour ago. The SEC beats the **** out of each other in the same way the Big10 does and in a different way than the Big12 does, yet people still feel like the SEC does it in a more "impressive" way? Don't understand the logic but it happens. Watch the Alabama/Miss St. game and explain to my why Alabama's defense is so "impressive" because they didn't look that impressive to me. And Miss St. is no offensive juggernaut. Hell...ND beat the **** out of everyone they've played as well (excluding UGA)...that didn't mean they were a great team.
And I do think UCF is getting short-changed right now. As of TODAY, UCF is a top 10 team. They win their conference championship and you put a 2 loss team in OVER them?! I just don't get it.
Maybe I just look at it differently. I weight being undefeated and a conference champion much much more than playing in a (perceived) "tough" conference. There are people seriously talking about the SEC having TWO teams in the final 4. That's just absurd.
Notre Dame is a unique circumstance but you can't help but look at their schedule and say that a 2 loss ND team has been just as (or more) impressive than a 2 loss Auburn team or a 1 loss Oklahoma team. ND schedule is ****ing suicide.
Personally...I would LOVE to see the bullshit that ensues when UCF AND Wisconsin go undefeated and a 2 loss team get's in, while they don't.
Teitan wrote:Alpha wrote:
As I also mentioned, it's not "how I would do it personally"...but I could see an undefeated Wisconsin getting passed over. I could even see Miami getting passed over (specifically if Clemson shits the bed again).
Never forget how much of an SEC bias there still is. Granted the 1 point Georgia win over Notre Dame doesn't look so impressive any longer but it DID until about an hour ago. The SEC beats the **** out of each other in the same way the Big10 does and in a different way than the Big12 does, yet people still feel like the SEC does it in a more "impressive" way? Don't understand the logic but it happens. Watch the Alabama/Miss St. game and explain to my why Alabama's defense is so "impressive" because they didn't look that impressive to me. And Miss St. is no offensive juggernaut. Hell...ND beat the **** out of everyone they've played as well (excluding UGA)...that didn't mean they were a great team.
And I do think UCF is getting short-changed right now. As of TODAY, UCF is a top 10 team. They win their conference championship and you put a 2 loss team in OVER them?! I just don't get it.
Maybe I just look at it differently. I weight being undefeated and a conference champion much much more than playing in a (perceived) "tough" conference. There are people seriously talking about the SEC having TWO teams in the final 4. That's just absurd.
Notre Dame is a unique circumstance but you can't help but look at their schedule and say that a 2 loss ND team has been just as (or more) impressive than a 2 loss Auburn team or a 1 loss Oklahoma team. ND schedule is ****ing suicide.
Personally...I would LOVE to see the bullshit that ensues when UCF AND Wisconsin go undefeated and a 2 loss team get's in, while they don't.
It’s definitely bullshit. You win every game on your schedule you deserve to be in the mix. And they didn’t just luck into wins. The destroyed almost every team.
The playoff needs to be expanded.
Teitan wrote:Alpha wrote:
As I also mentioned, it's not "how I would do it personally"...but I could see an undefeated Wisconsin getting passed over. I could even see Miami getting passed over (specifically if Clemson shits the bed again).
Never forget how much of an SEC bias there still is. Granted the 1 point Georgia win over Notre Dame doesn't look so impressive any longer but it DID until about an hour ago. The SEC beats the **** out of each other in the same way the Big10 does and in a different way than the Big12 does, yet people still feel like the SEC does it in a more "impressive" way? Don't understand the logic but it happens. Watch the Alabama/Miss St. game and explain to my why Alabama's defense is so "impressive" because they didn't look that impressive to me. And Miss St. is no offensive juggernaut. Hell...ND beat the **** out of everyone they've played as well (excluding UGA)...that didn't mean they were a great team.
And I do think UCF is getting short-changed right now. As of TODAY, UCF is a top 10 team. They win their conference championship and you put a 2 loss team in OVER them?! I just don't get it.
Maybe I just look at it differently. I weight being undefeated and a conference champion much much more than playing in a (perceived) "tough" conference. There are people seriously talking about the SEC having TWO teams in the final 4. That's just absurd.
Notre Dame is a unique circumstance but you can't help but look at their schedule and say that a 2 loss ND team has been just as (or more) impressive than a 2 loss Auburn team or a 1 loss Oklahoma team. ND schedule is ****ing suicide.
Personally...I would LOVE to see the bullshit that ensues when UCF AND Wisconsin go undefeated and a 2 loss team get's in, while they don't.
It’s definitely bullshit. You win every game on your schedule you deserve to be in the mix. And they didn’t just luck into wins. The destroyed almost every team.
The playoff needs to be expanded.
Ken Carson wrote:
What UCF is doing on the field this season is as impressive as anyone in the country.
Alpha wrote:KiffininCanton wrote:
unless you're referring to UCF, that seems to be hyperbole (especially with undefeated teams being plural). No Power 5 conference undefeated has any chance of getting passed over by a two loss team other than maybe Wisconsin. And I'm not sure that is going to happen. A hypothetical win over Ohio State in the Big Ten title game will boost their resume. Only 2 loss team I could see passing them in that scenario is a 2 loss Auburn team with 2 wins over Georgia and a win over Alabama.
And a Wisconsin win over a 2 loss OSU might be impressive to you but I'd argue it isn't. At all. An undefeated Wisconsin should expect to beat a 2 loss ANYBODY.
Cheb wrote:All of these debates would be moot if there was an eight team playoff. Every conference winner from the Power 5 would automatically get a spot, the last three would be at-large committee selections.
Let's do this.
Zarniwoop wrote:4 teams is plenty.
If the non power 5 teams want to make it, they better schedule at least 2 top 20 OOC games on the road
uscbucsfan wrote:Ken Carson wrote:
What UCF is doing on the field this season is as impressive as anyone in the country.
What are we really even arguing here? Do you honestly believe UCF deserves to be in the playoff? If so, I would say most disagree with you.
If they keep winning they will get a New Years Day Bowl and maybe momentum to join a P5 conference in the future.
Zarniwoop wrote:4 teams is plenty.
If the non power 5 teams want to make it, they better schedule at least 2 top 20 OOC games on the road
uscbucsfan wrote:Zarniwoop wrote:4 teams is plenty.
If the non power 5 teams want to make it, they better schedule at least 2 top 20 OOC games on the road
99% of the time there are 2 clear best teams and 4 is too much. Like I said before, if you go to 8, people will want 16.
Mountaineer Buc wrote:uscbucsfan wrote:99% of the time there are 2 clear best teams and 4 is too much. Like I said before, if you go to 8, people will want 16.
And if you go 16, people will want 32!
Kress wrote:Mountaineer Buc wrote:And if you go 16, people will want 32!
Size doesn't matter.
Mountaineer Buc wrote:uscbucsfan wrote:99% of the time there are 2 clear best teams and 4 is too much. Like I said before, if you go to 8, people will want 16.
And if you go 16, people will want 32!
Phantom Phenom wrote:update:
1.Alabama
2.Clemson
3.Miami
4.Oklahoma
Teitan wrote:Phantom Phenom wrote:update:
1.Alabama
2.Clemson
3.Miami
4.Oklahoma
.....
15. UCF
Teitan wrote:Phantom Phenom wrote:update:
1.Alabama
2.Clemson
3.Miami
4.Oklahoma
.....
15. UCF
Cheb wrote:All of these debates would be moot if there was an eight team playoff. Every conference winner from the Power 5 would automatically get a spot, the last three would be at-large committee selections.
Let's do this.
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