Super K wrote:GS in 6... possibly 5..
Too much firepower with the addition of KD...
Love will disappear like usual leaving LBJ and Kyrie to carry the offensive load..it won't be enough..
uscbucsfan wrote:Super K wrote:GS in 6... possibly 5..
Too much firepower with the addition of KD...
Love will disappear like usual leaving LBJ and Kyrie to carry the offensive load..it won't be enough..
Love played pretty well in coming back from 3-1 last year and when Curry and Thompson disappeared.
I'm not trying to argue in favor of Cleveland, but I just don't understand people saying how lopsided this series is. If you watch both teams play, they are pretty close. Only on paper is it a huge mismatch. Very rarely this season have Durant and Curry played well together. Draymond is super consistent in what he does, but Klay has been awful. People make excuses by saying that his defense is great, but his on ball defense was not good against Kawhai or against Portland. Now he has to take turns on Lebron.
The Cavs not only added Korver and Dwill (Korver hasn't been great...Williams has), but they are playing the best they ever has as a team. Love and Tristan have been quietly great the entire playoffs.
The biggest advantage that GS has is it's bench.
edit: I'm rooting for GS btw. Never liked Lebron, but I do respect his greatness.
pewterpirates wrote:If anyone thinks the NBA will let the Warriors dominate this series (like they should in a fair fight), you're being delusional. This is LeBron James. This is the NBA. This is all about money and ratings. There's no way this is shorter than a 6-game series.
Anyone remember last year when the Warriors were dominating to go up 3-1? Not only was Green suspended. But anyone remember Curry being in foul trouble the entire game 6? Probably only 2 of those fouls were legit. He fouled out midway through the 4th on one of the most asinine calls I've ever seen.
I hate LeBron. I also strongly dislike the Warriors b/c of how they're assembled and how arrogant they've become. In a fairly officiated series, I'd take GS in 5. But we won't get a fairly officiated series, so IDK how far the NBA will go to help LeBron.
DreadNaught wrote:uscbucsfan wrote:
Love played pretty well in coming back from 3-1 last year and when Curry and Thompson disappeared.
I'm not trying to argue in favor of Cleveland, but I just don't understand people saying how lopsided this series is. If you watch both teams play, they are pretty close. Only on paper is it a huge mismatch. Very rarely this season have Durant and Curry played well together. Draymond is super consistent in what he does, but Klay has been awful. People make excuses by saying that his defense is great, but his on ball defense was not good against Kawhai or against Portland. Now he has to take turns on Lebron.
The Cavs not only added Korver and Dwill (Korver hasn't been great...Williams has), but they are playing the best they ever has as a team. Love and Tristan have been quietly great the entire playoffs.
The biggest advantage that GS has is it's bench.
edit: I'm rooting for GS btw. Never liked Lebron, but I do respect his greatness.
Like every series this one will come down to match-ups. The most important player for GS will be Andre Iguodala (Iggy) imo, who GS has used to guard Lebron the past two finals. But Iggy has a bad left knee that caused him to miss game 2 vs the Spurs. Iggy is already a liability on the offensive end, so if he's not 100% and able to slow down Lebron it changes the series imo. Nobody else on GS can give Lebron problems on defense like Iggy has been able to. We already know Curry can't stay w/ Kyre either, so if Iggy is a non factor I could see the Cavs winning. Remember that Iggy won Finals MVP the year GS won the title and played great early in last years series before his back injury made him a non-factor the final 3 games when Lebron took over the series.
uscbucsfan wrote:DreadNaught wrote:
Like every series this one will come down to match-ups. The most important player for GS will be Andre Iguodala (Iggy) imo, who GS has used to guard Lebron the past two finals. But Iggy has a bad left knee that caused him to miss game 2 vs the Spurs. Iggy is already a liability on the offensive end, so if he's not 100% and able to slow down Lebron it changes the series imo. Nobody else on GS can give Lebron problems on defense like Iggy has been able to. We already know Curry can't stay w/ Kyre either, so if Iggy is a non factor I could see the Cavs winning. Remember that Iggy won Finals MVP the year GS won the title and played great early in last years series before his back injury made him a non-factor the final 3 games when Lebron took over the series.
Good Post, and I agree.
PrimeMinister wrote:I think Draymond, Klay & KD can all take turns guarding Lebron.
DreadNaught wrote:PrimeMinister wrote:I think Draymond, Klay & KD can all take turns guarding Lebron.
Agreed, but none of those 3 has shown they are anywhere near as effective vs Lebron as Iggy has been (when healthy). Plus Draymond will have to stay on Love imo. If the Cavs go small and put Lebron at the 4 I could see Draymond checking him some. Lebron has abused Klay (see the last 3 games of last years finals).
If Iggy isn't up to the task, I think KD will get most of the defensive responsibility vs Lebron.
The match-ups are always fun in a series, and when you have so many great players it makes it even more interesting to see the game by game
I'd be interested to see how people would rank the individual players in this series 1-10, and see what the teams would look like if say you and I were captains and could have our pick any of the players in this series in a pick-up game type format.
DreadNaught wrote:I know others won't agree, but I'll take Kyrie over Curry.
uscbucsfan wrote:DreadNaught wrote:I know others won't agree, but I'll take Kyrie over Curry.
Kyre's defense is one of the worst in the NBA and he doesn't show up for games more than any superstar I can think of.
Curry, when healthy, is one of the most unique and dangerous players in NBA history. He's got the shot and release of the great spot shooters like Allen and Reggie (he's better than both), but unlike them...he can create his own shot as well.
Kyre like against the Celtics, peaks at a ridiculous level. I love his game when he tries. I don't think you are crazy for taking Kyrie over Curry. I just think Curry+ any superstar is better than Kyrie+ any superstar because Kyrie needs the ball to get in rhythm more than Curry.
DreadNaught wrote:uscbucsfan wrote:
Kyre's defense is one of the worst in the NBA and he doesn't show up for games more than any superstar I can think of.
Curry, when healthy, is one of the most unique and dangerous players in NBA history. He's got the shot and release of the great spot shooters like Allen and Reggie (he's better than both), but unlike them...he can create his own shot as well.
Kyre like against the Celtics, peaks at a ridiculous level. I love his game when he tries. I don't think you are crazy for taking Kyrie over Curry. I just think Curry+ any superstar is better than Kyrie+ any superstar because Kyrie needs the ball to get in rhythm more than Curry.
Yeah good points, Curry is definitely the more consistent superstar and the best shooter I've ever seen play basketball. But as great and fun as it is to watch Curry drain shots no other player should attempt, I still like watching Kyrie better when he's at his best. His handle is the best in the NBA and has an Iverson-like ability to finish around the rim at his size. He's a more explosive player than Curry off the dribble imo. I do think you can contain Curry easier with good on-ball defender than you can w/ Kyrie who can shake anyone he wants it seems. But they are both great...
Neither guy can do much on defense, so my take is based solely on offense.
uscbucsfan wrote:I guess you agree with the rest of my rankings?
DreadNaught wrote:uscbucsfan wrote:
Kyre's defense is one of the worst in the NBA and he doesn't show up for games more than any superstar I can think of.
Curry, when healthy, is one of the most unique and dangerous players in NBA history. He's got the shot and release of the great spot shooters like Allen and Reggie (he's better than both), but unlike them...he can create his own shot as well.
Kyre like against the Celtics, peaks at a ridiculous level. I love his game when he tries. I don't think you are crazy for taking Kyrie over Curry. I just think Curry+ any superstar is better than Kyrie+ any superstar because Kyrie needs the ball to get in rhythm more than Curry.
Yeah good points, Curry is definitely the more consistent superstar and the best shooter I've ever seen play basketball. But as great and fun as it is to watch Curry drain shots no other player should attempt, I still like watching Kyrie better when he's at his best. His handle is the best in the NBA and has an Iverson-like ability to finish around the rim at his size. He's a more explosive player than Curry off the dribble imo. I do think you can contain Curry easier with good on-ball defender than you can w/ Kyrie who can shake anyone he wants it seems. But they are both great...
Neither guy can do much on defense, so my take is based solely on offense.
Crocaneers wrote:Surprised there is no Cleveland love at all ...
Game 1 tonight
NYBF wrote:Crocaneers wrote:Surprised there is no Cleveland love at all ...
Game 1 tonight
There was, but he's in the hospital after how game 1 turned out.
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