HamBone wrote:Seriously...the Democrats need to prove President Trump and the Russians "hacked" the election or STFU.
President Trump needs to prove that President Obama "wiretapped" him...or he needs to STFU.
I swear, it's like I'm playin' cards with my brother's kids or somethin'. You nerve-wrackin' sons-a-bitches.
Corsair wrote:Lets have an independent investigation, otherwise this isn't going away.
I'll be interested to hear what Comey says in the public hearing on Monday. Feinstein looked stunned behind the microphone yesterday after her confidential briefing.
Corsair wrote:That's not an excuse to not do an investigation.
Corsair wrote:That's not an excuse to not do an investigation.
Corsair wrote:Lets just say I disagree with your assessment, DN.
I don't see it as a smear campaign, I see it as a legitimate issue... and Burr and Nunes have already shown explicitly that they are not impartial and Sessions has already recused himself.
I'm continually surprised by republicans who don't want to find out how to prevent future interference of our elections simply to protect "their guy". Let's not forget that it isn't disputed (even by the so-called president) that Russia had a multi-faceted operation to influence our elections. Don't we want to know to what extent they were successful and how we can prevent it in the future?
BTW, investigations like this don't take 50 days. There is no time limit for information gathering. There is no "it would have come out by now" and your assumption of that is childish.
DreadNaught wrote:Corsair wrote:Lets just say I disagree with your assessment, DN.
I don't see it as a smear campaign, I see it as a legitimate issue... and Burr and Nunes have already shown explicitly that they are not impartial and Sessions has already recused himself.
I'm continually surprised by republicans who don't want to find out how to prevent future interference of our elections simply to protect "their guy". Let's not forget that it isn't disputed (even by the so-called president) that Russia had a multi-faceted operation to influence our elections. Don't we want to know to what extent they were successful and how we can prevent it in the future?
BTW, investigations like this don't take 50 days. There is no time limit for information gathering. There is no "it would have come out by now" and your assumption of that is childish.
I'm sure your interest in an independent investigation is not based on partisanship at all and you just after truth and justice. How noble of you.
Corsair wrote:DreadNaught wrote:
I'm sure your interest in an independent investigation is not based on partisanship at all and you just after truth and justice. How noble of you.
Do you have a reason to believe that an independent investigation would slant more towards partisanship or less towards partisanship?
DreadNaught wrote:You don't get to launch an independent investigation against the POTUS because your parties candidate didn't win.
DreadNaught wrote:Corsair wrote:
Do you have a reason to believe that an independent investigation would slant more towards partisanship or less towards partisanship?
Not what I said, I stated partisan Democrats want to continue to smear Trump and an independent investigation would be a tool to do so, which is why they are pressing for it.
In the event you get your wish and there is such an investigation I'm sure it would an honorable person heading it. But that wouldn't stop the Dems and MSM from politicizing it for there own gain.
You don't get to launch an independent investigation against the POTUS because your parties candidate didn't win. Find a reason/basis (like EVIDENCE) to use as precedent to request such an investigation. Right now there is none.
bucfanclw wrote:DreadNaught wrote:You don't get to launch an independent investigation against the POTUS because your parties candidate didn't win.
I love the fact that you still actually believe that nonsense.
Corsair wrote:DreadNaught wrote:
Not what I said, I stated partisan Democrats want to continue to smear Trump and an independent investigation would be a tool to do so, which is why they are pressing for it.
In the event you get your wish and there is such an investigation I'm sure it would an honorable person heading it. But that wouldn't stop the Dems and MSM from politicizing it for there own gain.
You don't get to launch an independent investigation against the POTUS because your parties candidate didn't win. Find a reason/basis (like EVIDENCE) to use as precedent to request such an investigation. Right now there is none.
Again, we disagree.
DreadNaught wrote:bucfanclw wrote:I love the fact that you still actually believe that nonsense.
You want an investigation launched based on NO evidence of collusion despite the FBI, CIA, countless journos and god knows who else looking for ANY inkling of evidence. NOTHING has been found, or as former CIA Director and Clinton ally stated yesterday "not even a spark". Then you come here under the guise of legitimacy pretending you are looking out for something other than the interests of your own political ideology.
Just be honest with yourselves. If the situation was reversed would you be banging the table for an independent investigation into Hillary? Of course not... And her camp HAS WAYYY more connections to Russia than Trump or his 'associates do. So spare us w/ your BS...
bucfanclw wrote:DreadNaught wrote:
You want an investigation launched based on NO evidence of collusion despite the FBI, CIA, countless journos and god knows who else looking for ANY inkling of evidence. NOTHING has been found, or as former CIA Director and Clinton ally stated yesterday "not even a spark". Then you come here under the guise of legitimacy pretending you are looking out for something other than the interests of your own political ideology.
Just be honest with yourselves. If the situation was reversed would you be banging the table for an independent investigation into Hillary? Of course not... And her camp HAS WAYYY more connections to Russia than Trump or his 'associates do. So spare us w/ your BS...
Aww... do you need a tissue? I think you need a tissue. It much suck being the victim so often.
DreadNaught wrote:Just be honest with yourselves. If the situation was reversed would you be banging the table for an independent investigation into Hillary? Of course not... And her camp HAS WAYYY more connections to Russia than Trump or his 'associates do. So spare us w/ your BS...
Rocker wrote:I agree with your point Delt. However, I'm more upset with selling American uranium to Russia than I am with America buying Russian oil.
deltbucs wrote:Rocker wrote:I agree with your point Delt. However, I'm more upset with selling American uranium to Russia than I am with America buying Russian oil.
I honestly don't know what I'm more upset about. Either one is infuriating. But to say "America buying Russian oil" is oversimplifying at best. "America buying oil Ukrainian/Crimean oil from Russia after Putin invaded them to take possession of the oil", is more accurate. If it were just America buying Russian oil, then yeah, I'd be much more upset about selling American uranium to Russia than buying the oil.
Rocker wrote:deltbucs wrote:I honestly don't know what I'm more upset about. Either one is infuriating. But to say "America buying Russian oil" is oversimplifying at best. "America buying oil Ukrainian/Crimean oil from Russia after Putin invaded them to take possession of the oil", is more accurate. If it were just America buying Russian oil, then yeah, I'd be much more upset about selling American uranium to Russia than buying the oil.
I simplified my post. From a human rights standpoint; I'm ****ing furious about how the US responded to that chain of events. Politically, it's hardly worth arguing; as imho Obama's foreign policy stance was terribad on so many occasions.
Have you ever listened to John Bachelor?
deltbucs wrote:Rocker wrote:
I simplified my post. From a human rights standpoint; I'm ****ing furious about how the US responded to that chain of events. Politically, it's hardly worth arguing; as imho Obama's foreign policy stance was terribad on so many occasions.
Have you ever listened to John Bachelor?
I have not. The only political talk radio that I listen to is the POTUS channel on Sirius/XM. It's not bad for unbiased or equally bias talk when it comes to shows like Steele & Ungar...which I like.
HamBone wrote:Seriously...the Democrats need to prove President Trump and the Russians "hacked" the election or STFU..
Babeinbucland wrote:HamBone wrote:Seriously...the Democrats need to prove President Trump and the Russians "hacked" the election or STFU..
Looks like they decided to go with proving trump and the Russsians hacked the election
HamBone wrote:Babeinbucland wrote:
Looks like they decided to go with proving trump and the Russsians hacked the election
Hacked the election? Admiral Rogers stated there was no evidence that a single vote was changed...didn't he?
Mountaineer Buc wrote:HamBone wrote:
Hacked the election? Admiral Rogers stated there was no evidence that a single vote was changed...didn't he?
That's the part of this that pisses me off. The Russians could have hacked all sorts of stuff, put out all kinds of fake news, done it all while coordinating with the Trump campaign on the daily and STILL couldn't have possibly altered a single vote.
Clinging onto this Russia thing let's corporate Democrats sit there and ignore the fact that a very large portion of the population does not like them and will not vote for them.
It hands total control of government to the Republicans and is sheer madness.
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