Naismith wrote:Good, now may the best man win and after Folk wins, may a valuable lesson be learned.
Naismith wrote:Missed four field goals last year, three of them were blocked. 3 for 3 from 40-49. 2 for 4 from 50+. Lifetime 59% from 50+. And he didn't cost any picks, nor count against the team for future compensatory picks.
Doctor wrote:Some people are going to be feeling really dumb when Bobby is kicking 90% next season.
Bootz2004 wrote:Naismith wrote:Missed four field goals last year, three of them were blocked. 3 for 3 from 40-49. 2 for 4 from 50+. Lifetime 59% from 50+. And he didn't cost any picks, nor count against the team for future compensatory picks.
Dallas drafted him in 07.
theBKwhopper wrote:Man this situation is depressing
MJW wrote:theBKwhopper wrote:Man this situation is depressing
Bruce Allen: "I think it's safe to say that with Dexter Jackson, I made a 2nd round pick in Tampa that it'll be hard to out-suck."
Jason Licht: "Did you trade up for him?"
Bruce Allen: "No, actually, we traded back."
Jason Licht: "Hold my beer, this **** is going to blow your mind."
terrytate wrote:MJW wrote:
Bruce Allen: "I think it's safe to say that with Dexter Jackson, I made a 2nd round pick in Tampa that it'll be hard to out-suck."
Jason Licht: "Did you trade up for him?"
Bruce Allen: "No, actually, we traded back."
Jason Licht: "Hold my beer, this **** is going to blow your mind."
In Allen's defense, I feel confident that they were staring at Desean Jackson pretty hard. Then when he went off the board, they panicked a bit. Still dumb, but Dexter wasn't plan A.
MJW wrote:terrytate wrote:
In Allen's defense, I feel confident that they were staring at Desean Jackson pretty hard. Then when he went off the board, they panicked a bit. Still dumb, but Dexter wasn't plan A.
I'm of the opinion that a front office should use that whole February-April window to prepare for such possibilities (along with every other possibility), but I do understand your point. Aguayo was Licht's Plan A. That is different in some ways.
Teitan wrote:And if he was who he was at FSU and was our Janakowski for 10+ years everyone thinks it's a smart move. It was a risk. I'm hoping Roberto makes good on it.
Naismith wrote:Teitan wrote:And if he was who he was at FSU and was our Janakowski for 10+ years everyone thinks it's a smart move. It was a risk. I'm hoping Roberto makes good on it.
Anyone could be your Janikowski for 10+ years. All you need to do is keep signing them when their contract is up. You don't need to invest draft picks to keep a guy for a long time.
Also, why would Janikowski be the goal? Why not a good kicker?
Bootz2004 wrote:Naismith wrote:
Anyone could be your Janikowski for 10+ years. All you need to do is keep signing them when their contract is up. You don't need to invest draft picks to keep a guy for a long time.
Also, why would Janikowski be the goal? Why not a good kicker?
Stephen Gotskowski......he doesn't fit your agenda though. Belichick
drafted a kicker too. Such an idiot....
Naismith wrote:Bootz2004 wrote:
Stephen Gotskowski......he doesn't fit your agenda though. Belichick
drafted a kicker too. Such an idiot....
Well, Gostkowski wasn't part of the discussion. People love to point out how you can address the kicking situation for a long time, as if the only way to do that is drafting a player, like you can't keep an undrafted player for a long time. If the Bucs had kept Matt Bryant for 10+ years, that would have addressed the 10+ year issue that people seem to think is important without using any picks. For whatever reason, Janikowski's long tenure of mediocrity is held up as some sort of desirable result.
But since you brought him up. Using a fourth round pick on a guy isn't nearly the same as trading two picks so you can use a second round pick on a kicker. My philosophy is always that once you get to day three of the draft, position mostly doesn't matter. If Gostkowski or Aguayo or whoever is the highest rated player on your board and the one you think has a most chance to make/improve your team, go for it. So while I still would never pick a kicker because of the ease of acquiring one, it's a lot better use of draft assets using one day three pick on one. I, personally, think it's a mistake but not nearly as egregious of a mistake as what the Bucs did.
Bootz2004 wrote:You went from "you don't need to invest picks at all" to "once you get to day 3, it's okay". Got it.
Bootz2004 wrote:Naismith wrote:
Anyone could be your Janikowski for 10+ years. All you need to do is keep signing them when their contract is up. You don't need to invest draft picks to keep a guy for a long time.
Also, why would Janikowski be the goal? Why not a good kicker?
Stephen Gotskowski......he doesn't fit your agenda though. Belichick
drafted a kicker too. Such an idiot....
Bootz2004 wrote:
Stephen Gotskowski......he doesn't fit your agenda though. Belichick
drafted a kicker too. Such an idiot....
Bootz2004 wrote:Belichick is like I said so deep inside the head of every casual fan.
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