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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby Corsair » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:40 pm

Our illiterate President:

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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby deltbucs » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:11 pm

Babeinbucland wrote:
deltbucs wrote:Oh yeah?

Oops! I forgot that one. I will include it next time Darlin' sorry.

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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby Corsair » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:32 pm

If You Voted for Him
November 17, 2016 / John Pavlovitz
If you voted for him, I really need you to hear something right now:

I believe you.

I believe you when you say that you’re not a racist.
I believe you when you say that you’re not a bigot.
I believe you when you say you’re not homophobic.
I believe you when you say you’re not a misogynist.
I believe you when you say you’re not an Islamophobe.
I believe you when you say you’re not an anti-Semite.
I believe you when you say that you don’t condone violence and discrimination and bullying.

But I won’t keep believing you if you remain silent.

I know you had legitimate reasons for voting for him; things that either real or imagined, genuinely moved you to your decision and that you wrestled with these reasons greatly. But I don’t care about those reasons; not because I don’t care about you or value you or want to understand you or because I don’t respect your road, but because those reasons can’t help those who are hurting or threatened right now—only your response can.

You see, regardless of why you voted for him, you did vote for him. Your affirmation of him and your elevation of him to this position, came with what you knew about him:

It came after hearing the horrible, degrading, vile things he said about women.
It came after hearing him encourage his supporters to be violent with protestors.
It came after he advocated for Muslims to be expelled and profiled.
It came after he made fun of a man with physical disability.
It came after he framed the BlackLivesMatter movement as criminal and subversive.
It came after he personally criticized the appearance and weight and sexual activity of women opponents.
It came after he chose a Vice President who believes gay people can pray away their gayness.
It came after the KKK and the neo-Nazis endorsed him.

These were all things you had to weigh to cast your vote, and by whatever method you used, you declared theses things within your morally acceptable parameters. You deemed these part of the “lesser of two evils”. In voting your conscience—these things made the cut.

And so the whys of your vote matter less now than the who of your vote. That person is here, and everything happening now is the reality you and I need to deal with together. Both of our intentions have to yield to the moment we stand in together.

And I need you to speak now. If the acts of violence toward people of color and the harassment of the Muslim community and the anti-Semitic graffiti and the misogynistic assaults on women make you sick; if they are not your heart, if they are not acceptable, if they are not who you are—say so.

And if the appointment of a chief advisor to the President who has shown blatant, explicit, incendiary hatred for people of color and Jewish people and the Muslim community, is not what you consented to with your vote, you need to say that too.

I want to believe that you do value equality and diversity and in the inherent value of every person as much as I do. I want to believe that people are precious to you, no matter their color or gender or faith tradition or sexual orientation. But if you refuse to speak into the events of these days, if you choose to stay silent, whether out of fear or shame or buyer’s remorse or ambivalence—I will have no choice but to believe that you are okay with all of this.

And here’s the thing, friend: If you were to say that you are not okay with all of this, if you were to stand up to the bigots and the racists and the misogynists and the homophobes and the anti-Semites and the xenophobes—you will find that I will stand with you. I will live and work and worship alongside you, and you will find me a willing, available, and caring partner in the crafting of the future of this country. I promise you.

I will not hold your vote against you, because I trust that you arrived at that vote as carefully, prayerfully, and seriously as I did mine.

But make no mistake, I will hold your silence now against you.
I will hold your inaction against you.
I will hold your refusal to see the pain of those your vote has at least in some part, initiated against you.
I will hold your lack of compassion for the marginalized against you.

So yes, I believe you are not the horrible things I am seeing from the hateful, vicious, intolerant few from the fringes, but that belief comes with the expectation that I will hear you now; that you will shout to the fringes that this is not what you meant by making America great.
It comes with the expectation that you will tell the President and your elected officials and your pastors, that these things do not have a place in the country you desire.
It comes with the expectation that you speak now to the marginalized, and that you reiterate their worth, hear their grief, validate their fear, and that you come to their defense in both word and in tangible support.

Friend, you may feel like you are being attacked these days, but you’re not. You’re being challenged to be the person you tell us you are.

If you voted for him I do not believe that automatically makes you the enemy.

Only your silence in the face of this hatred can do that.

Please speak, so I can know you.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby Babeinbucland » Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:47 pm

Trump could get caught on video snorting coke & boinking a goat & republicans would insist the goat started it and got what it deserved.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby deltbucs » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:07 am

Trump’s clubs charge $60K to rent carts to Secret Service as agency runs out of money

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trumps ... 2017-08-21


Trump continues to make a fortune off of the tax payers with his presidency. This is 60k just in golf cart rentals just for the secret service that the tax payers are paying Trump for. Are you Trump supporters starting to see that being president is a money making venture for him, yet? He pretty much doesn't work at all and just continues top pump millions in tax payer dollars into his companies. So instead of him staying at one of his properties and playing golf, eating, etc for free, us tax payers pay hundreds of thousands for him, his guests, and the secret service to stay at one of his resorts.
And I'm not even talking about lobbyist money that is funneling into his businesses. Strictly money that is coming straight out of our pockets and into his.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby bucfanclw » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:26 am

deltbucs wrote:Trump’s clubs charge $60K to rent carts to Secret Service as agency runs out of money

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trumps ... 2017-08-21


Trump continues to make a fortune off of the tax payers with his presidency. This is 60k just in golf cart rentals just for the secret service that the tax payers are paying Trump for. Are you Trump supporters starting to see that being president is a money making venture for him, yet? He pretty much doesn't work at all and just continues top pump millions in tax payer dollars into his companies. So instead of him staying at one of his properties and playing golf, eating, etc for free, us tax payers pay hundreds of thousands for him, his guests, and the secret service to stay at one of his resorts.
And I'm not even talking about lobbyist money that is funneling into his businesses. Strictly money that is coming straight out of our pockets and into his.

Yeah, but Obama requested dijon mustard for his burger that one time so both sides are bad.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby Corsair » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:43 am

Give it up guys.

We're talking to his base, now. They aren't going anywhere. Not after Nazi equivalencies, not after admitted sexual assault.

If a pee tape dropped today, the religious right would tell us stories about how Mary Magdeline was a prostitute and those sheets had it coming.

The truth is, they support it. Because I guarantee they are going to vote for it. No way anyone that supports Trump still at this point will ever vote for a democrat.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby DreadNaught » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:48 am

bucfanclw wrote:
DreadNaught wrote:So you disagree that there will be an uptick troop deployment and bombing frequency moving forward?

Yes I disagree...

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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby bucfanclw » Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:06 pm

DreadNaught wrote:
bucfanclw wrote:Yes I disagree...

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So then he was listening to Bannon instead of his generals before? Which is it?

EDIT: Keeping in mind, of course that this idea was already in the works back in June.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby bucfanclw » Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:12 pm

Here's a link from over 2 months ago that already stated the increase in troop deployment. Explain what has "ramped up" since Bannon left.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby Babeinbucland » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:02 am

This presidency was never going to go well. Sociopaths are just not suited to the job.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby Ken Carson » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:43 am

Babeinbucland wrote:This presidency was never going to go well. Sociopaths are just not suited to the job.

That may or may not be true, but reality TV stars are definitely not suited to the job.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby SDBucs » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:47 pm

Babeinbucland wrote:This presidency was never going to go well. Sociopaths are just not suited to the job.


So you can agree that Obama wasn't suited for the position?

Or do you actually believe he naturally speaks in that manner? That he didn't put any conscious effort into getting how he appears to others down to a science? I mean it's clear as day to those of us not enamored by his fakeness that that's what his personality is; fake. And what does science call that? Sociopathic.

But I bet those words never touched your lips once under Boma.

And this isn't just true to Obama. 90% of politicians are "fake", aka sociopathic, at least in our govt.

The correct word for Trump would be narcissistic, but that too applies to Boma.

I'll follow up even.

You were a Hilary supporter.

Do you REALLY think she was being real when she said she carries hot sauce around? Or her "loud(mouth wide open, hip and wild Hilary!)" facial expressions when the cameras were on her in "natural" situations? Or that someone really "stumbled across her running in the woods"? The answer should be no. Obama at least faked it well, Hilary was utterly transparent. Again, this fakeness, the scripted interactions, it's called sociopathy.

And I'm really sorry if the sociopathy of these idols of yours and whoever else go unnoticed because you like them so much.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:54 pm

SD is back!

How are things in the manosphere, buddy?
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby SDBucs » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:11 pm

Mountaineer Buc wrote:SD is back!

How are things in the manosphere, buddy?


Life's good hope all is well
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby deltbucs » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:49 pm

So I happened to be flipping through and listened to about 10 minutes of his campaign rally (I guess he still doesn't realize that he won?) last night. Holy ****ing ****. This guys is incapable of telling the truth about anything. I seriously don't know if I heard him tell a single truth the whole time I listened. Ironically, he was going on and on about how dishonest the media was.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby mightyleemoon » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:35 pm

deltbucs wrote:Trump’s clubs charge $60K to rent carts to Secret Service as agency runs out of money

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trumps ... 2017-08-21


Trump continues to make a fortune off of the tax payers with his presidency. This is 60k just in golf cart rentals just for the secret service that the tax payers are paying Trump for. Are you Trump supporters starting to see that being president is a money making venture for him, yet? He pretty much doesn't work at all and just continues top pump millions in tax payer dollars into his companies. So instead of him staying at one of his properties and playing golf, eating, etc for free, us tax payers pay hundreds of thousands for him, his guests, and the secret service to stay at one of his resorts.
And I'm not even talking about lobbyist money that is funneling into his businesses. Strictly money that is coming straight out of our pockets and into his.


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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby mightyleemoon » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:41 pm

deltbucs wrote:So I happened to be flipping through and listened to about 10 minutes of his campaign rally (I guess he still doesn't realize that he won?) last night. Holy ****ing ****. This guys is incapable of telling the truth about anything. I seriously don't know if I heard him tell a single truth the whole time I listened. Ironically, he was going on and on about how dishonest the media was.


Isn't his Presidency going just about like you would have predicted? Nothing but big talk, little action, and a whole lot of hyperbole and indignation? Essentially, this is The Apprentice: West Wing Edition that we asked for.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby Babeinbucland » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:02 pm

Ken Carson wrote:
Babeinbucland wrote:This presidency was never going to go well. Sociopaths are just not suited to the job.

That may or may not be true, but reality TV stars are definitely not suited to the job.

Especially reality tv starts that are sociopaths :D
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby Ken Carson » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:43 am

Babeinbucland wrote:
Ken Carson wrote:That may or may not be true, but reality TV stars are definitely not suited to the job.

Especially reality tv starts that are sociopaths :D

Fair enough.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby Alpha » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:25 am

SDBucs wrote:
Babeinbucland wrote:This presidency was never going to go well. Sociopaths are just not suited to the job.


So you can agree that Obama wasn't suited for the position?

Or do you actually believe he naturally speaks in that manner? That he didn't put any conscious effort into getting how he appears to others down to a science? I mean it's clear as day to those of us not enamored by his fakeness that that's what his personality is; fake. And what does science call that? Sociopathic.

But I bet those words never touched your lips once under Boma.

And this isn't just true to Obama. 90% of politicians are "fake", aka sociopathic, at least in our govt.

The correct word for Trump would be narcissistic, but that too applies to Boma.

I'll follow up even.

You were a Hilary supporter.

Do you REALLY think she was being real when she said she carries hot sauce around? Or her "loud(mouth wide open, hip and wild Hilary!)" facial expressions when the cameras were on her in "natural" situations? Or that someone really "stumbled across her running in the woods"? The answer should be no. Obama at least faked it well, Hilary was utterly transparent. Again, this fakeness, the scripted interactions, it's called sociopathy.

And I'm really sorry if the sociopathy of these idols of yours and whoever else go unnoticed because you like them so much.



LOVE how the Trumpsters' default deflection is to Obama and Hilary. That is ****ing Hilary-ous.

The fact is that most Trumpsters' are so tied to The Trumpster, they can't possibly admit they made a mistake, at this point. They're in it until the bitter end.

As he said during the campaign (perhaps the ONLY truth he told)...he could LITERALLY, stand on 5th Avenue and shoot someone...and not lose a single vote.

SD. Kelly Anne Whateverhernameis. Donald Jr. There could be a video of them gang-banging Putin...and SD would STILL support him (FAKE NEWS!?!?!11111?:!!!)
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby Corsair » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:39 pm

The Trump Brain Drain has begun:
Foreign students flock to Canada as government struggles to get grads to stay
International applicants spike in the aftermath of Donald Trump's election in the U.S.
By Kathleen Harris, CBC News Posted: Sep 03, 2017 5:00 AM ET

Some of Canada's biggest universities are beginning the new school year with a record number of international students on campus.

The steady upswing in foreign applicants began several years ago, then started to spike after the U.S. presidential election in 2016. The challenge for the Canadian government now is to maintain that trend amid competing countries, and to encourage more from the talented pool to stay on as permanent residents.

The University of Toronto, Canada's top draw for international students, enrolled 17,452 international students in undergraduate and graduate programs last year, making up about 20 per cent of the overall student body.

That compares to 7,380 international students comprising about 10 per cent of the total student population a decade ago, in 2007.

The university's steady increase became a spike after U.S. President Donald Trump was elected.

"Clearly there are things about the international situation — worries about stability, Brexit and the U.S. political environment — that have changed or increased international students' interest in looking beyond their own countries and beyond the U.S.," said Richard Levin, executive director of enrolment services and university registrar.

"Now in places like that, students are looking for alternatives and Canada is presenting as a good one in terms of stability, safety and inclusiveness."

According to data provided by Universities Canada there has been a sharp increase in both applications and website traffic from the U.S. and abroad since the 2016 U.S. election, with many seeing a 20 per cent jump or more in applications.

Levin said the university's current goal is to keep the level at about 20 per cent of the overall student population in coming years, but to diversify with students from all parts of the planet. He said there is little concern about culture clashes with an increasingly diverse population.
'Bring them together'

"One of the best ways to grow understanding is to bring them together," he said.

According to the Canadian Bureau for International Education, some of the main countries the students come from include China, India, South Korea, France, the U.S., Saudia Arabia, Nigeria, Japan and Brazil. Universities also report a recent increase in the number of applicants from Turkey.

The upward trend for international students is happening at other universities too, including the University of Ottawa, where the foreign student population of 1,959 nearly tripled to 5,583 in the last 10 years.

The number of international students in elementary and high schools has also been on the rise, according to the Canadian Bureau for International Education.

etc.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby Corsair » Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:25 pm

Donald Trump appears to have high levels of support among the nation’s intolerant population, according to a New York Times deep dive into polling data.

The Times found that nearly 20% of Trump supporters did not approve of freeing the slaves, according to a January YouGov/Economist poll that asked respondents if they supported or disapproved of “the executive order that freed all slaves in the states that were in rebellion against the federal government”—Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby Babeinbucland » Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:43 pm

Corsair wrote:
Donald Trump appears to have high levels of support among the nation’s intolerant population, according to a New York Times deep dive into polling data.

The Times found that nearly 20% of Trump supporters did not approve of freeing the slaves, according to a January YouGov/Economist poll that asked respondents if they supported or disapproved of “the executive order that freed all slaves in the states that were in rebellion against the federal government”—Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation.

And apparently a high percentage of them are on this board - Paging American Muscle! (And oh yeah, that was definitely attacking. Selmon Rules, don't want you to miss out on the fun!)
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby Corsair » Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:22 pm

I'm not calling out anyone here. But I'm sure there are more than a few of us who have parents who might say something like this.

The question is if they voted for the same candidate those people voted for.

Trump's dog whistle campaign was obvious that it had the support for a certain type of people.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby Rocker » Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:50 pm

Corsair wrote:I'm not calling out anyone here. But I'm sure there are more than a few of us who have parents who might say something like this.

Something like what, exactly?

The question is if they voted for the same candidate those people voted for.

??

Trump's dog whistle campaign was obvious that it had the support for a certain type of people.

For the umpteenth time; what is so difficult to understand that voting against the establishment was an easy choice for so many people?


FTR; I did not vote for Trump, so feel free to not use the "Trumpeter" routine in your response.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby Corsair » Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:52 pm

Rocker wrote:Something like what, exactly?


The Times found that nearly 20% of Trump supporters did not approve of freeing the slaves, according to a January YouGov/Economist poll that asked respondents if they supported or disapproved of “the executive order that freed all slaves in the states that were in rebellion against the federal government”—Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation.


3 posts above yours.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby Corsair » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:05 pm

Rocker wrote:what is so difficult to understand that voting against the establishment was an easy choice for so many people?

Nothing wrong with voting against the establishment.

But that wasn't what Trump offered. It's what he promised, but some of us knew it was BS. He was the embodiment of corporate America and its exploits.
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby WalterGronkite » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:10 am

Corsair wrote:
Rocker wrote:Something like what, exactly?


The Times found that nearly 20% of Trump supporters did not approve of freeing the slaves, according to a January YouGov/Economist poll that asked respondents if they supported or disapproved of “the executive order that freed all slaves in the states that were in rebellion against the federal government”—Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation.


3 posts above yours.


This question implies that the 20% are against freeing slaves. That's not what they asked.

Honest Abe freed all the slaves except the ones in the North, and he had no control over the Confederacy
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Re: Donald Trump - STFU

Postby mightyleemoon » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:34 am

Corsair wrote:
Rocker wrote:what is so difficult to understand that voting against the establishment was an easy choice for so many people?

Nothing wrong with voting against the establishment.

But that wasn't what Trump offered. It's what he promised, but some of us knew it was BS. He was the embodiment of corporate America and its exploits.


Anyone who voted for Trump on the basis that they were voting against the establishment are just as dumb as everyone who voted for Clinton with the notion that she was against the establishment. Bernie was the most anti-establishment option and he was run out by the establishment.
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