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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Buc2 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:04 pm

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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Jonny » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:34 pm

The Bernie vs Cruz debate put this notion to rest that this idiot is a good man that happens to be a socialist. Besides his utterly emotional argument that it is common sense to have Universal Healthcare, he had nothing more to offer in the whole debate. Bernie is incapable of moral arguments, he is utterly incapable of economic arguments. All of his solutions require massive amounts of taxation. Bernie Sanders cannot make a moral argument for why anything should be a right, food, internet, cable, healthcare.

Also his response to that small business owner displayed his true character. That idiot cannot justify what is magical with the number 50 to begin with. Why is it moral for an employer to not buy insurance for her employees when she has 49 and why does it become immoral from 50 onward? His final response was "I don't know much about hair salon business". No **** dipwad, you never worked a real job in your life and you don't know **** about running businesses, and the market. That is why you are unfit to regulate, and you should not pass regulations assuming it will not impact businesses.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Commander Bubbles » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:21 pm

Mountaineer Buc wrote:The Democratic Party is focused on serving corporate and wealthy donors rather than representing working, middle class and low income Americans.




Everything I have read has led me to believe that George Soros runs the democratic party, so this would make sense.

Mountaineer Buc wrote:Because all this means is that the "little guy" has no significant representation in Federal Government right now. And the party that built itself as the one that looks out for the little guy is apparently just fine with that.



I think it's naïve to think that the "little guy" ever had significant representation in the Federal Government.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Corsair » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:40 pm

Wharf Rat wrote:Everything I have read has led me to believe that George Soros runs the democratic party, so this would make sense.

This is true.

I got paid to sit on a bus and hold up a sign at a local protest.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Commander Bubbles » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:24 am

Corsair wrote:
Wharf Rat wrote:Everything I have read has led me to believe that George Soros runs the democratic party, so this would make sense.

This is true.

I got paid to sit on a bus and hold up a sign at a local protest.


What does the allegation of paid protestors have to do with what I said?

Not only is he a huge contributor to the democratic party, it appears (from what we've learned from leaked emails) that he has influenced American policy.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:40 am

Wharf Rat wrote:
Corsair wrote:This is true.

I got paid to sit on a bus and hold up a sign at a local protest.


What does the allegation of paid protestors have to do with what I said?

Not only is he a huge contributor to the democratic party, it appears (from what we've learned from leaked emails) that he has influenced American policy.

And Sheldon Addleson or the Koch brothers don't?

That's the whole point. You and I have been kicked out of the Capitol. It's foolishness to think the President is immune to this


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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby mightyleemoon » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:01 am

Mountaineer Buc wrote:
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby PrimeMinister » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:53 pm

mightyleemoon wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:
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Thanks for sharing.

That second video would be a dream come true.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby SDBucs » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:02 pm

Thank god this socialist got screwed by the DNC, Ted made it look so easy to dismantle his emotional healthcare pleas. Couldn't imagine Bern in charge of the economy. Johnny said it best.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby deltbucs » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:30 am

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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Buc2 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:37 pm

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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:12 pm

MB - looks like your boy is taking some **** for having the balls to be honest


https://www.yahoo.com/news/barack-obama ... 19437.html
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:49 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:MB - looks like your boy is taking some **** for having the balls to be honest


https://www.yahoo.com/news/barack-obama ... 19437.html

Told you there was a split in the party. Media is going to hammer this for all the traction they can get out of it. They're trying to squash the progressive movement.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby DreadNaught » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:52 pm

Mountaineer Buc wrote:
Zarniwoop wrote:MB - looks like your boy is taking some **** for having the balls to be honest


https://www.yahoo.com/news/barack-obama ... 19437.html

Told you there was a split in the party. Media is going to hammer this for all the traction they can get out of it. They're trying to squash the progressive movement.


Is the progressive movement akin to Bernie's platform?

Is "they" the media/establishment side of the party?
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:42 pm

DreadNaught wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:Told you there was a split in the party. Media is going to hammer this for all the traction they can get out of it. They're trying to squash the progressive movement.


Is the progressive movement akin to Bernie's platform?

Is "they" the media/establishment side of the party?

For the most part, yes.

It gets a little more complicated than what I'm about to say, but if you boil it down you have the Berniecrats who are all about universal healthcare, tuition free education, and minimum wage hikes vs. The Clinton wing who are the ones doing the identity politics, gun control, and sanctuary cities.

Clintonites blame Berniecrats for weakening the party and the Berniecrats are fed up with watered down, third way liberalism that lost 1,000 seats because they refuse to fight beyond a news cycle.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:45 pm

It's like a union man arguing with an English professor.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby uscbucsfan » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:47 pm

That always happens after a lost election. When Obama won the Tea Party split off and Dems on this board said Pubs would never win another Presidency. In a way with what Trump is, they weren't completely proven wrong yet, but these things are cyclical.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:50 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:That always happens after a lost election. When Obama won the Tea Party split off and Dems on this board said Pubs would never win another Presidency. In a way wtih Trump, they weren't completely wrong, but these things are cyclical.

Very true. What Trump managed to do was unify the party by harnessing it's hatred of the Clinton's brand of politics which has been in full control of the party since 92.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Zarniwoop » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:33 pm

Sanders to announce plan to guarantee every American a job



Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) will announce a plan for the federal government to guarantee a job paying $15 an hour and health-care benefits to every American worker “who wants or needs one”


Under the early draft of Sanders's job guarantee, local, state and American Indian tribe governments in every section of the country would send proposals for public works projects for their areas to 12 regional offices that encompass the country. These 12 regional offices would act as a clearinghouse for these projects, tasked with sending recommended projects to a new national office within the Labor Department office for final approval.



It's not clear what would happen to a worker who violated the terms of employment. The plan suggests creating a Division of Progress Investigation to “take disciplinary action if needed,” leaving authority to the head of the Labor Department




And of course.....


A representative from Sanders's office said they had not yet done a cost estimate for the plan or decided how it would be funded.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... fe19ac3978







DON'T EVER CHANGE BERN!!!!
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:43 pm

I can think of a few ways to pay for that.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Zarniwoop » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:44 pm

I'm sure you can


LOL



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seriously though...where do you think it stops with Bernie...free healthcare, free college, guaranteed jobs....what's next do you think?
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:50 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:I'm sure you can


LOL



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seriously though...where do you think it stops with Bernie...free healthcare, free college, guaranteed jobs....what's next do you think?

"Democracy is the road to Socialism."
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Zarniwoop » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:12 pm

good talk
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:21 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:good talk

Well, what did you want me to say? Do you want to know when Bernie and his supporters are satisfied? When they get what they want, that's when.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby DreadNaught » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:35 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:good talk


People who don't like socialism are racist, homophopic, and xenophobic!

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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Zarniwoop » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:36 pm

Mountaineer Buc wrote:
Zarniwoop wrote:good talk

Well, what did you want me to say? Do you want to know when Bernie and his supporters are satisfied? When they get what they want, that's when.



I posted a story of a proposalthat Bernie is going to sponsor. One thing you could do is give your opinion on it. Or you couldn't. Either is fine with me.


It's another program that he seems to think everyone should have to pay for. Its clearly a pattern with him. He wants lots of freebies and guarantees simply for being alive. I listed a few...there are more...like his idea for universal Pre-K.

if you are happy with him continuing to add to his smorgasbord of freebies...all the power to you.


I think the guaranteed jobs proposal is one of the worst of his to date. It's asinine for a multitude of reasons...the biggest being money. I read another article on it saying that he is hoping to add 15M jobs through the program. That's craziness. There is no talk about the need for the work that is going to be done...only the need for people to work. I can't think of anything more backwards.

In fairness, I guess it's a step forward for him because this time at least people have to do something to get the benefit.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby DreadNaught » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:42 pm

Mountaineer Buc wrote:
Zarniwoop wrote:good talk

Well, what did you want me to say? Do you want to know when Bernie and his supporters are satisfied? When they get what they want, that's when.


Progressives are never satisfied by definition. The line continues to move indefinitely in the name of "progress" regardless of the issue. The moment they stop trying to move the line b/c they are "satisfied" is when they start being labeled conservative. It's a 'if we're not changing we're not progressing' mentality imo.

This is one of the handful of reasons the vast majority people tend to get more conservative the older they get.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:46 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:Well, what did you want me to say? Do you want to know when Bernie and his supporters are satisfied? When they get what they want, that's when.



I posted a story of a proposalthat Bernie is going to sponsor. One thing you could do is give your opinion on it. Or you couldn't. Either is fine with me.


It's another program that he seems to think everyone should have to pay for. Its clearly a pattern with him. He wants lots of freebies simply for being alive. I listed a few...there are more...like his idea for universal Pre-K.

if you are happy with him continuing to add to his smorgasbord of freebies...all the power to you.

I think its an excellent idea. The country needs a massive infrastructure overhaul and higher wages to boot.

We can drop $13 Billion on an aircraft carrier and nobody bats an eye. Suggest 13 billion in something that benefits the public and there's a predictable frakout over the national debt.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby bucfanclw » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:16 pm

Well we can't be having poor people think they can work their way out of poverty through public works or education assistance. Damn socialists.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Buc2 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:16 pm

Problem is, 15 million jobs @ $15/hour works out to a $468 billion annual payroll based on a 40 hour work week. That's 36 aircraft carriers. I think we only have 9 that are operational at the moment.
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