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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:56 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:
Zarniwoop wrote:


IMO it's still the best alternative among a lot of alternatives, none of which are perfect.

Its not much different than douchebags who drives without car insurance....they make the rates increase for those that have insurance.


I think there are better solutions as far as only having catastrophic insurance and whatnot, but then we get into "not everyone deserve "x" treatment" and people get offended.



catastrophic insurance was #1 on my list of health care fixes......i knew you were smart!!

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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby Brazen331 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:56 pm

Evidently, the Russians are requesting evidence of their interference in the election. Tillerson said he would leave it to the Intel community to address.

Does anyone think they will cough up the evidence or will they cite an excuse to refrain from doing so?

Sorry posted this in wrong thread.
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby Zarniwoop » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:01 pm

Unless it was 100% clear that Putin wasn't involved (which is unlikely), I wouldn't give them anything
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby deltbucs » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:12 pm

I read about half way through the previous page. This forum is really getting worse and worse.

It seems the Trump fans don't care about discussing anything. They seriously don't care what Trump does. They only care that it pisses off the libtards. And that's why our country is going to ****. Partisan bullshit.
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby HamBone » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:15 pm

deltbucs wrote:I read about half way through the previous page. This forum is really getting worse and worse.

It seems the Trump fans don't care about discussing anything. They seriously don't care what Trump does. They only care that it pisses off the libtards. And that's why our country is going to ****. Partisan bullshit.


Did you post this in the right thread?
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby Corsair » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:20 pm

Brazen331 wrote:Evidently, the Russians are requesting evidence of their interference in the election. Tillerson said he would leave it to the Intel community to address.

Does anyone think they will cough up the evidence or will they cite an excuse to refrain from doing so?

Sorry posted this in wrong thread.

It's common for Russia to say "prove it" in order to get info about sources and methods. I don't believe he should, why would we need to convince Putin? Our intelligence knows he ordered it. There's no benefit to humoring him.

Letting him know "how" we know only hurts assets in the field.
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby acaton » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:12 pm

deltbucs wrote:I read about half way through the previous page. This forum is really getting worse and worse.

It seems the Trump fans don't care about discussing anything. They seriously don't care what Trump does. They only care that it pisses off the libtards. And that's why our country is going to ****. Partisan bullshit.


Not true. The Libs have about thirty investigations going on and will have for at least five years or so, maybe longer. My guess is the GOP is doing pretty well right now regardless of all the rants. for the most part I get sleepy talking about the pseudo alarms every day but please carry forward and encourage your fellow Libs to do the same all year, over and over again.

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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby deltbucs » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:56 pm

acaton wrote:
deltbucs wrote:I read about half way through the previous page. This forum is really getting worse and worse.

It seems the Trump fans don't care about discussing anything. They seriously don't care what Trump does. They only care that it pisses off the libtards. And that's why our country is going to ****. Partisan bullshit.


Not true. The Libs have about thirty investigations going on and will have for at least five years or so, maybe longer. My guess is the GOP is doing pretty well right now regardless of all the rants. for the most part I get sleepy talking about the pseudo alarms every day but please carry forward and encourage your fellow Libs to do the same all year, over and over again.

All vegetables.

I don't think you even realized that you're helping to prove my point.
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby acaton » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:10 pm

I did, you win.
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:12 pm

Show me on the doll where the liberal touched you.
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Re: Random terrorism news

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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby HamBone » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:25 am

VA fires more than 500 feds under Trump, even before new accountability law

The agency that has been the main target of efforts to fire feds faster dismissed more than 500 employees this year — even before a new accountability law took effect.

Since the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) shamed itself in 2014 with a scandal over the coverup of long patient wait times, Capitol Hill politicians have demanded that the agency accelerate sacking — as if that were the main measure of good personnel administration. Department leaders joined the call and perpetuated the impression that life would be better if only more derelicts could be dumped.

Now we know that VA has dumped plenty.

Its first public posting, released Friday, of adverse actions against employees, terminations, suspensions and demotions, showed that the department fired 525 staffers from Jan. 20, when President Trump took office, through July 3.

The number of staffers dismissed should not be confused with effective human resource management. A certain percentage of terminations is inevitable in any organization, particularly during probationary periods. Yet, an excessive and perverse focus on firing makes that a valued metric, instead of more attention on measures encouraging the agency, its managers and its employees to succeed.

VA’s 26-page list is filled with “removals,” which is government-speak for firings, of staffers, including doctors, nurses, housekeepers, grave diggers.

“Under this administration, VA is committed to becoming the most transparent organization in government,” Secretary David Shulkin said. “… Veterans and taxpayers have a right to know what we’re doing to hold our employees accountable and make our personnel actions transparent. Posting this information online for all to see, and updating it weekly, will do just that.”

This transparency also busts the myth that feds can’t be fired. Terminating more than 500 people in less than six months, even from a 345,000-strong department workforce, should be enough to make the cruelest boss content.

Governmentwide, more than 77,000 feds were fired for performance or conduct issues during fiscal 2000-2014, according to the Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB), an average of more than 5,000 a year. Out of a current workforce of about 2 million, that’s not much, but it’s not supposed to be. Plus, 5,000 is not nothing.

The list of adverse actions was compiled before Trump signed the VA Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act last month. It erodes civil service due process protections for all VA employees and pointedly facilitates faster firing of department’s 469 senior executives.

“Some of the employees involved in these [wait list] scandals remained on the payrolls,” Trump lamented at the signing ceremony. “Outdated laws kept the government from holding those who failed our veterans accountable.”

But the adverse-action list demonstrates than many VA employees were held accountable before the act became law, despite comments by Trump and Shulkin giving the opposite impression.

“It is clear that there is sadly a pervasive lack of accountability,” Shulkin said at a Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee hearing in May. He cited an employee who “was caught watching pornography on the job.” That employee, a psychiatrist, was fired, just not as quickly as Shulkin wanted.

Like democracy, due process takes time.

Under the new accountability law, due process for VA employees, such as it is, will take less time and they can be bounced on less evidence. Shulkin can design an in-house process that makes him the prosecutor, judge and appellate court for senior executives. He is responsible for charging them with an offense, determining the punishment and hearing employee appeals of the sentence. The law abolished their right, available to other federal employees, to a neutral, third-party review by the MSPB or another agency.

The new authority, which won strong support from both parties and veterans’ organizations, “allows VA to take action more expeditiously,” said VA spokesman James Hutton, “and to more easily defend its actions on appeal, as [MSPB administrative] judges must now afford deference to VA’s choice of penalty and must uphold actions when VA proves misconduct by substantial evidence,” a lower bar than the previously required “preponderance of evidence.”

Leaders of employee organizations differ on Shulkin’s decision to release the list of adverse actions.

J. David Cox Sr., president of the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents more than 70 percent of VA’s employees, said the list “isn’t transparency. It’s an intimidation tactic. … As former VA Secretary Bob McDonald said, you can’t fire your way to excellence.”

I side more with Bill Valdez, president of the Senior Executives Association. Rather than intimidation, the list demonstrates “it’s not so hard to remove feds and it happens all the time,” he said. “Why in the world did they need more authority to fire feds when they can to it at this rate?”

The list, Valdez added, is “a great demonstration to the American public that feds are held accountable and can be held accountable.”
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:43 am

Interesting read. Weird place to post it.
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby HamBone » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:07 am

Mountaineer Buc wrote:Interesting read. Weird place to post it.


Lol...indeed. Thought I posted it in the random political thread
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby HamBone » Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:46 am

A U.S. Soldier in Hawaii Pledged Allegiance to ISIS, According to an FBI Affidavit

(HONOLULU) — An active duty soldier based in Hawaii pledged his allegiance to the Islamic State group (ISIS), helped purchase a drone for it to use against American forces and said he wanted to use his rifle to "kill a bunch of people," according to an FBI affidavit.

Ikaika Kang, a sergeant first class in the U.S. Army, made an initial appearance Monday in federal court in Honolulu. He was arrested Saturday on terrorism charges.


Paul Delacourt, the FBI special agent in charge of the Hawaii bureau, said no documents made it to ISIS.

Birney Bervar, Kang's appointed attorney, said after Kang's initial court appearance that he still doesn't know much about the case. He said he only talked to Kang for a few minutes.

The 26-page affidavit from FBI Special Agent Jimmy Chen lays out details of the year-long investigation into the 34-year-old soldier, who was a one-time martial arts fighter who thought he was dealing with ISIS agents but were undercover agents or sources instead.

Among the charges was that Kang copied military secret documents in 2015 and wanted to provide them to the organization, according to the affidavit. It also says Kang admitted that he voluntarily pledged loyalty to ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

This occurred on Saturday at a home in Honolulu, where he thought he was meeting an actual member of the organization, the affidavit says. They made combat training videos he believed would be taken back to the Middle East to help prepare the group's soldiers to fight American forces, according to the affidavit.

Kang, who received extensive combat training, also helped purchase a drone that he believed would help ISIS soldiers escape from American tanks, the affidavit says.

Kang, a trained air traffic controller based at Hawaii's Wheeler Army Airfield, had his military clearance revoked in 2012 for making pro-ISIS comments while at work and on-post and threatening to hurt or kill fellow service members.

His clearance was reinstated a year later after he completed military requirements.

However, the affidavit says the Army believed Kang was becoming radicalized in 2016 and asked the FBI to investigate.

Kang has two firearms registered in his name, an AR-15-style assault rifle and a handgun. After the shooting last summer at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida, he told an undercover source that the "shooter did what he had to do and later said that America is the only terrorist organization in the world," according to the affidavit.

The document alleges he also later told the same source that "Hitler was right, saying he believed in the mass killing of Jews."

Kang enlisted in the Army in December 2001, just months after the Sept. 11 attacks. He served in Iraq from March 2010 to February 2011 and Afghanistan from July 2013 to April 2014. Kang was assigned to the headquarters of the 25th Combat Aviation Brigade.


****ing douche...should hang him for treason.

The defense attorney for a U.S. soldier arrested on terrorism charges says it appears his client may suffer from service-related mental health issues of which the government was aware but neglected to treat.

Lawyer Birney Bervar said Monday Sgt. 1st Class Ikaika Kang was a decorated veteran of two deployments.


Stress from being an air-traffic controller? Boo ****ing hoo...I think the term "decorated veteran" is mis-used. What are his awards? An ARCOM? Unless that ARCOM (or even a Bronze Star) has a "V"...it's a participation award.
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby HamBone » Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:06 am

Bomb set off at Air Force recruiting center, FBI investigating

BIXBY, Okla. (AP) — Federal authorities have confirmed an explosive device was set off outside an Air Force recruiting center near Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Bixby police say the blast was reported around 10:30 p.m. Monday. Bixby is about 15 miles (24.1 kilometers) south of Tulsa.

FBI Agent Jessi Rice says the recruiting office was closed at the time of the explosion and no one was injured. The extent of the damage is not yet known.

Investigators with the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives are at the scene. Rice says the Tulsa police bomb squad was the first to respond.

No arrests have been made. ATF Special Agent Meredith Davis says the blast is being investigated as a possible act of domestic terrorism.
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:31 am

HamBone wrote:
A U.S. Soldier in Hawaii Pledged Allegiance to ISIS, According to an FBI Affidavit

(HONOLULU) — An active duty soldier based in Hawaii pledged his allegiance to the Islamic State group (ISIS), helped purchase a drone for it to use against American forces and said he wanted to use his rifle to "kill a bunch of people," according to an FBI affidavit.

Ikaika Kang, a sergeant first class in the U.S. Army, made an initial appearance Monday in federal court in Honolulu. He was arrested Saturday on terrorism charges.


Paul Delacourt, the FBI special agent in charge of the Hawaii bureau, said no documents made it to ISIS.

Birney Bervar, Kang's appointed attorney, said after Kang's initial court appearance that he still doesn't know much about the case. He said he only talked to Kang for a few minutes.

The 26-page affidavit from FBI Special Agent Jimmy Chen lays out details of the year-long investigation into the 34-year-old soldier, who was a one-time martial arts fighter who thought he was dealing with ISIS agents but were undercover agents or sources instead.

Among the charges was that Kang copied military secret documents in 2015 and wanted to provide them to the organization, according to the affidavit. It also says Kang admitted that he voluntarily pledged loyalty to ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

This occurred on Saturday at a home in Honolulu, where he thought he was meeting an actual member of the organization, the affidavit says. They made combat training videos he believed would be taken back to the Middle East to help prepare the group's soldiers to fight American forces, according to the affidavit.

Kang, who received extensive combat training, also helped purchase a drone that he believed would help ISIS soldiers escape from American tanks, the affidavit says.

Kang, a trained air traffic controller based at Hawaii's Wheeler Army Airfield, had his military clearance revoked in 2012 for making pro-ISIS comments while at work and on-post and threatening to hurt or kill fellow service members.

His clearance was reinstated a year later after he completed military requirements.

However, the affidavit says the Army believed Kang was becoming radicalized in 2016 and asked the FBI to investigate.

Kang has two firearms registered in his name, an AR-15-style assault rifle and a handgun. After the shooting last summer at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida, he told an undercover source that the "shooter did what he had to do and later said that America is the only terrorist organization in the world," according to the affidavit.

The document alleges he also later told the same source that "Hitler was right, saying he believed in the mass killing of Jews."

Kang enlisted in the Army in December 2001, just months after the Sept. 11 attacks. He served in Iraq from March 2010 to February 2011 and Afghanistan from July 2013 to April 2014. Kang was assigned to the headquarters of the 25th Combat Aviation Brigade.


****ing douche...should hang him for treason.

The defense attorney for a U.S. soldier arrested on terrorism charges says it appears his client may suffer from service-related mental health issues of which the government was aware but neglected to treat.

Lawyer Birney Bervar said Monday Sgt. 1st Class Ikaika Kang was a decorated veteran of two deployments.


Stress from being an air-traffic controller? Boo ****ing hoo...I think the term "decorated veteran" is mis-used. What are his awards? An ARCOM? Unless that ARCOM (or even a Bronze Star) has a "V"...it's a participation award.

Yeah, **** that guy.
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby RedLeader » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:43 am

More than 75% of deaths from terrorist attacks in 2016 took place in just 5 countries:‬
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‪Afghanistan‬
‪Iraq‬
‪Nigeria‬
‪Pakistan‬
‪Syria‬
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby deltbucs » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:46 am

RedLeader wrote:More than 75% of deaths from terrorist attacks in 2016 took place in just 5 countries:‬
‪ ‬
‪Afghanistan‬
‪Iraq‬
‪Nigeria‬
‪Pakistan‬
‪Syria‬

Sweet....Let's keep spending trillions of dollars to destabilize those countries
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:40 pm

Just saw that a bomb exploded at a mosque in Minnesota during morning prayer. No injuries.
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby NYBF » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:27 pm

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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby Corsair » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:02 pm

Counter protestors were hit by Nazi protestor driving Dodge Challenger.
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby Corsair » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:05 pm

Why can't the President say he denounces "violent white extremism"?
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby WalterGronkite » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:18 pm

This is getting confusing.

Is the president working for the Russians or the Nazis?
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby sanka » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:36 pm

What a ****ing dummy we have as a president....it's always about him.
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby Brazen331 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:33 pm

Corsair wrote:Why can't the President say he denounces "violent white extremism"?


Slow news day for you? I really don't see the need for a hissy fit over a couple dozen new-nazis. We have like 360 million people in the country.

And we went through this routine a year ago, didn't we? The President denounced David Duke, doesn't that count as denouncing white extremism? Maybe you should go cry wolf over something else? There is a Russia thread you can click on, for example. Don't get distracted.
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby Corsair » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:41 pm

Mugshot of James A. Fields, accused of murder in today's car attack in Charlottesville.

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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby NYBF » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:47 pm

Brazen331 wrote:
Corsair wrote:Why can't the President say he denounces "violent white extremism"?


Slow news day for you? I really don't see the need for a hissy fit over a couple dozen new-nazis. We have like 360 million people in the country.

And we went through this routine a year ago, didn't we? The President denounced David Duke, doesn't that count as denouncing white extremism? Maybe you should go cry wolf over something else? There is a Russia thread you can click on, for example. Don't get distracted.


You're OK with nazis killing people in America because there's not a lot of them?
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby Corsair » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:58 pm

We've got reports of Nazis circling churches and chanting "blood and soil" at churchgoers inside.

Reports of Nazis with bats and brass knuckles attacking clergy.

Multiple videos of assaults from these white nationalists to counter protestors.

They showed up wearing helmets, carrying bats and long guns and shields with confederate and Nazi flags. You don't show up to a protest with weapons and armor, they were there to fight.

Plus a man attempted to murder a city block of people with his car as a weapon.

And there are people here that defend them.
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Re: Random terrorism news

Postby Corsair » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:06 pm

I guess we know what side he was on:

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