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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby DreadNaught » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:13 pm

Ken Carson wrote:The overall problems with identity politics is that 1.) there is no end to the intersectionality of different ways to categorize people until you reduce everyone to individuals


Great post Ken, this part is particularly funny and ironic to me and something I've never understood when people advocate for the collectivist narrative of intersectionality.

The very nature of intersectionality is that it will cannibalize itself.
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby Ken Carson » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:20 am

Interesting situation developing in Durham. A local news outlet ran an opinion piece calling for a theater to cancel a Peterson speech: https://www.indyweek.com/news/archives/2018/06/28/dear-dpac-we-really-need-to-talk-about-jordan-peterson - interestingly, the Durham mayor is one of the founders of this publication...

The Durham City Council wrote up a statement:https://www.facebook.com/ProTemJillianJ/posts/928000017379180

Peterson responded, but so did the National Coalition Against Censorship: https://ncac.org/news/ncac-cautions-durham-elected-officials-against-no-platforming-jordan-peterson

The city basically is trying to deplatform him. Pretty shameful, but also it shows that this stuff isn't just isolated to college campuses. Elected officials should have a lot more pause before casually tossing around terms like 'racist, misogynist, and transphobic.'
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:27 am

Ken Carson wrote:Interesting situation developing in Durham. A local news outlet ran an opinion piece calling for a theater to cancel a Peterson speech: https://www.indyweek.com/news/archives/2018/06/28/dear-dpac-we-really-need-to-talk-about-jordan-peterson - interestingly, the Durham mayor is one of the founders of this publication...

The Durham City Council wrote up a statement:https://www.facebook.com/ProTemJillianJ/posts/928000017379180

Peterson responded, but so did the National Coalition Against Censorship: https://ncac.org/news/ncac-cautions-durham-elected-officials-against-no-platforming-jordan-peterson

The city basically is trying to deplatform him. Pretty shameful, but also it shows that this stuff isn't just isolated to college campuses. Elected officials should have a lot more pause before casually tossing around terms like 'racist, misogynist, and transphobic.'





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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby DreadNaught » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:42 am

Ken Carson wrote:Interesting situation developing in Durham. A local news outlet ran an opinion piece calling for a theater to cancel a Peterson speech: https://www.indyweek.com/news/archives/2018/06/28/dear-dpac-we-really-need-to-talk-about-jordan-peterson - interestingly, the Durham mayor is one of the founders of this publication...

The Durham City Council wrote up a statement:https://www.facebook.com/ProTemJillianJ/posts/928000017379180

Peterson responded, but so did the National Coalition Against Censorship: https://ncac.org/news/ncac-cautions-durham-elected-officials-against-no-platforming-jordan-peterson

The city basically is trying to deplatform him. Pretty shameful, but also it shows that this stuff isn't just isolated to college campuses. Elected officials should have a lot more pause before casually tossing around terms like 'racist, misogynist, and transphobic.'


Joe Rogan speaking to the JP-Durham situation.

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby PanteraCanes » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:58 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:listening to the new Joe Rogan and JP podcast as I eat my lunch....it's quite good. A good attack on mainstream media and political news and political parties


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xc7DN-noAc



For an earlier one:

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby beardmcdoug » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:31 pm

Ho-ly cow I’m about an hour and a half into I think the latest Rogan/Peterson - #1139 and it is freaking amazing. These conversations are a gift to humanity - should be required listening for all high school freshmen
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby Zarniwoop » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:37 pm

beardmcdoug wrote:Ho-ly cow I’m about an hour and a half into I think the latest Rogan/Peterson - #1139 and it is freaking amazing. These conversations are a gift to humanity - should be required listening for all high school freshmen



Those two are really good together. Rogan keeps him grounded. Sometimes when JP is with Rubin it gets a bit too existential
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby Ken Carson » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:21 am

Well, this made me feel good this morning:

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-ne ... rts-common

A Calgary newspaper is running an online poll because a collective of arts groups wrote a letter asking that the event be 'moved' at the last minute (it is set for tonight). About 2k tickets have been sold, and there were about 600 signatures on the letter.

The poll asks if Peterson should be allowed to speak. Options are Yes, No, Yes, but somewhere else, and It doesn't matter.

Currently, Yes is running at 95%. Sometimes it's good to get a reminder that these free speech facists are the tiny minority.
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby PanteraCanes » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:02 am

That is good. Sounds like a very vocal very minority.
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby PrimeMinister » Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:05 am

I’ve been listening to Jordan Peterson for a few days. I’ve been sick today so I’ve listened to roughly 11 hours of him.

Thus far I see no problem with his viewpoints. I like this guy.
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby beardmcdoug » Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:01 am

PrimeMinister wrote:I’ve been listening to Jordan Peterson for a few days. I’ve been sick today so I’ve listened to roughly 11 hours of him.

Thus far I see no problem with his viewpoints. I like this guy.


Reported. Enjoy your jail time fascist scum.
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby Zarniwoop » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:51 am

I've listened to quite a bit of JP (thanks Obama...woops, I mean DN :P )...and this could very well be my favorite:






Even if you aren't a JP fan, I think he does a great job here of showing how the alt-right and the identity left are basically one in the same

lots of other stuff in here too...but I think this is what he does best.

If anyone cares to listen and wants to discuss.....let me know what you think about his very interesting theory of how winning the identity politics stuff is a predictable response to losing





the other really good thing they talk about is the elitism and hubris of the current marxist/socialist - i'd certainly look forward to a discussion of that as well.





then finally, their discussion about systems and how we evaluate them should be essential learning for everyone





--also, douglas murray kicks ass here
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby Zarniwoop » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:15 pm

This week’s Rubin is very good. He interviews Claire Lehman, the founder of Quillette. She’s very well spoken and discusses the goal of her platform.

She’s does a great job talking about science, reality, truth, empiricism, etc


Here's part 1:




She gives a fair treatment of most movements dating back to the enlightenment and up through post modernism.
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby DreadNaught » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:37 am

I'm a big fan of the Quillette platform. Required reading as part of my morning routine.
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby DreadNaught » Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:36 pm

One of the best JP talks I've watched (and I've watched ALOT of them).

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:07 pm

Coleman Hughes was on Rubin this week. Part 2 is particularly interesting, particularly when he talks about incentivizing behavior

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby real bucs fan » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:34 pm

Fun fact: Jordan's my neighbour and I play hockey with his kid lol
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:27 pm

Tell him he’s got some fans here
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby The Outsider » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:29 pm

real bucs fan wrote:Fun fact: Jordan's my neighbour and I play hockey with his kid lol



I always knew you were a kid.
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:33 pm

The Outsider wrote:
real bucs fan wrote:Fun fact: Jordan's my neighbour and I play hockey with his kid lol



I always knew you were a kid.



There’s another way to interpret it
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby real bucs fan » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:40 pm

His kid is like 25 you freaks
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby Ken Carson » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:03 am

So you are saying it was consensual?
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby Zarniwoop » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:31 am

New Rubin...part 1 ... very good with Glen Beck




For the record my views on Glen Beck:

1.) His radio show is very good
2.) His TV show sucked ass
3.) His books suck ass
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:40 am

Glenn Beck is still relevant?
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby beardmcdoug » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:53 am

Mountaineer Buc wrote:Glenn Beck is still relevant?


from the looks of it, he's making a long-game play for that KFC commercial spot
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby Ken Carson » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:27 pm

LOL
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby Zarniwoop » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:00 pm

beardmcdoug wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:Glenn Beck is still relevant?


from the looks of it, he's making a long-game play for that KFC commercial spot



Ha!
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby RedLeader » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:04 pm

If only.. there were.. a thread for Pocasts. ;)
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Postby Zarniwoop » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:05 pm

RedLeader wrote:If only.. there were.. a thread for Pocasts. ;)



I’m lazy. I couldn’t find it


Read — I didn’t look
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