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Postby Zarniwoop » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:13 am

Anyone reading these stories about this movement?

It seems that parents have been getting arrested and/or fined for stuff like letting their kids play outside by themselves or letting them walk home from school or parks by themselves. And now some parents are pushing back.

Utah just passed a law that gives parents more freedom to make these choices.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ ... ffect-kids
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby deltbucs » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:57 am

Zarniwoop wrote:Anyone reading these stories about this movement?

It seems that parents have been getting arrested and/or fined for stuff like letting their kids play outside by themselves or letting them walk home from school or parks by themselves. And now some parents are pushing back.

Utah just passed a law that gives parents more freedom to make these choices.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ ... ffect-kids

That **** is so ridiculous.
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby NYBF » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:01 am

Parents are getting arrested for letting their kids play outside?
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby mdb1958 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:53 am

The thread title sounds like what pasture your having them graze on.
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby Zarniwoop » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:56 am

NYBF wrote:Parents are getting arrested for letting their kids play outside?




Yes - Letting kids walk to parks and play unsupervised has led to arrests and fines
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby The Outsider » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:39 am

This is so damn stupid. I hate that I'm not really very surprised though.
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby Buc2 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:03 pm

Any guesses on which political ideology is supporting these laws?
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby Bootz2004 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:43 pm

mdb1958 wrote:The thread title sounds like what pasture your having them graze on.


Mdb is the result of free range parenting.
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby The Outsider » Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:54 pm

Buc2 wrote:Any guesses on which political ideology is supporting these laws?



Extreme left progressives. Just like extreme right conservatives support idiotic, often racist ideals.

This is a stupid issue, not an ideology issue.
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby beardmcdoug » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:34 pm

The Outsider wrote:
Buc2 wrote:Any guesses on which political ideology is supporting these laws?



Extreme left progressives. Just like extreme right conservatives support idiotic, often racist ideals.

This is a stupid issue, not an ideology issue.


well said
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby DreadNaught » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:13 pm

The Outsider wrote:
Buc2 wrote:Any guesses on which political ideology is supporting these laws?



Extreme left progressives. Just like extreme right conservatives support idiotic, often racist ideals.

This is a stupid issue, not an ideology issue.


Denial isn't just a river in Africa.
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby Phantom Phenom » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:35 pm

I've heard of stories of parents being reported if their child/children are alone in their own front yard! Geez let kids be kids!

I did know about these laws and I could be wrong but I think it's to make someone accountable for kidnappings and over all welfare of the child such as deaths in car, vans etc. there is also a new law in Texas that a child has to be reported missing within a hour and 30 minutes time window due to the little girl who's adopted father caused her death then dumped her body in a ditch but didn't report her missing until hours later.
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby The Outsider » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:14 pm

DreadNaught wrote:
The Outsider wrote:

Extreme left progressives. Just like extreme right conservatives support idiotic, often racist ideals.

This is a stupid issue, not an ideology issue.


Denial isn't just a river in Africa.



I've had enough of your dinsingenuous assertions.
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby real bucs fan » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:09 pm

Good to see fellow centrists do exist.
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby RedLeader » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:32 am

The Outsider wrote:
Buc2 wrote:Any guesses on which political ideology is supporting these laws?



Extreme left progressives. Just like extreme right conservatives support idiotic, often racist ideals.

This is a stupid issue, not an ideology issue.


Ya but nobody’s trying to pass laws that make racism easier. Just saying.


This type of dumb **** has been seeping into our schools and shoved down society’s throat by the liberal establishment for some time now.

Their thinking is actually not so fringe, and is what got Trump elected...



(Oh, and the Russians of course.)
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby Alpha » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:54 am

RedLeader wrote:
The Outsider wrote:

Extreme left progressives. Just like extreme right conservatives support idiotic, often racist ideals.

This is a stupid issue, not an ideology issue.


Ya but nobody’s trying to pass laws that make racism easier. Just saying.


LOL!

Is that what you think?


Sayin'...
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby Zarniwoop » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:51 am

A company in Florida has started selling ankle bracelets—the electric kind felons wear on parole—to parents. The slogan on Tampa Bay Monitoring's website puts it bluntly: "When you need to keep track of your teen at all times."

Unlike the other GPS monitors parents are using, which track a kid's phone, this one is un-ditchable: The "bracelet" cannot be removed.




https://tampabaymonitoring.com/portfoli ... ces-teens/
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby Deuce » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:55 am

Zarniwoop wrote:
A company in Florida has started selling ankle bracelets—the electric kind felons wear on parole—to parents. The slogan on Tampa Bay Monitoring's website puts it bluntly: "When you need to keep track of your teen at all times."

Unlike the other GPS monitors parents are using, which track a kid's phone, this one is un-ditchable: The "bracelet" cannot be removed.




https://tampabaymonitoring.com/portfoli ... ces-teens/


Wow. I'm sure kids equipped with that will grow up to be healthy, well-balanced individuals who love their parents.

Question for current parents of kids 8-14- How are things now? I lived in a small, safe town but we walked all over the place, had a fort set up on a random street in the woods, rode our bikes everywhere, including sneaking around the golf course. Can kids these days still get away with these things?
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby Buc2 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:07 am

Deuce wrote:


Wow. I'm sure kids equipped with that will grow up to be healthy, well-balanced individuals who love their parents.

Question for current parents of kids 8-14- How are things now? I lived in a small, safe town but we walked all over the place, had a fort set up on a random street in the woods, rode our bikes everywhere, including sneaking around the golf course. Can kids these days still get away with these things?

Yes. It depends on how well the kids parents trust them. At least here in my town. 90K population.
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby mdb1958 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:18 am

The Outsider wrote:
Buc2 wrote:Any guesses on which political ideology is supporting these laws?



Extreme left progressives. Just like extreme right conservatives support idiotic, often racist ideals.

This is a stupid issue, not an ideology issue.



You mean extreme left progressives who strive for a deviant accepted society.
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby Zarniwoop » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:42 am

Buc2 wrote:
Deuce wrote:
Wow. I'm sure kids equipped with that will grow up to be healthy, well-balanced individuals who love their parents.

Question for current parents of kids 8-14- How are things now? I lived in a small, safe town but we walked all over the place, had a fort set up on a random street in the woods, rode our bikes everywhere, including sneaking around the golf course. Can kids these days still get away with these things?

Yes. It depends on how well the kids parents trust them. At least here in my town. 90K population.



It's pretty much bimodal here (word of the day!). you have a chunk that raises their kids giving them many of the same freedoms we enjoyed when growing up -- going outside and playing anywhere in the neighborhood till dark. But there is also a chunk of the overprotective ones that completely stifle kids and their freedoms. I'm not sure what the ratio would be....my sample is very biased towards the free range kids because that's who my daughter generally hangs out with.
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:43 am

Buc2 wrote:
Deuce wrote:
Wow. I'm sure kids equipped with that will grow up to be healthy, well-balanced individuals who love their parents.

Question for current parents of kids 8-14- How are things now? I lived in a small, safe town but we walked all over the place, had a fort set up on a random street in the woods, rode our bikes everywhere, including sneaking around the golf course. Can kids these days still get away with these things?

Yes. It depends on how well the kids parents trust them. At least here in my town. 90K population.

This. One of the biggest things I had to learn is that life outside the house is at least just as safe as it was (or safer) when I was a dumb kid.

Home by dark can easily still apply to school aged kids.
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby Zarniwoop » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:44 am

every study does indeed show things are safer for kids now then they were 20 or 30 years ago when lots of us were growing up
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby DreadNaught » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:44 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:every study does indeed show things are safer for kids now then they were 20 or 30 years ago when lots of us were growing up


True, but we also didn't have access to the information we do today where it's so much easier to be aware of the dangers. We (our parents to be specific) were blissfully ignorant to a degree.

Parents these days also are not raising their kids appropriately and we've gone from helicopter parenting to bulldozer parenting where instead of hovering parents are just removing all obstacles so children are not even allowed to encounter dangerous things.

Haidt is speaking up on this and talks about it in he recent book, which is must read for any parent imo.
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby Zarniwoop » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:56 pm

DreadNaught wrote:
Zarniwoop wrote:every study does indeed show things are safer for kids now then they were 20 or 30 years ago when lots of us were growing up


True, but we also didn't have access to the information we do today where it's so much easier to be aware of the dangers. We (our parents to be specific) were blissfully ignorant to a degree.

Parents these days also are not raising their kids appropriately and we've gone from helicopter parenting to bulldozer parenting where instead of hovering parents are just removing all obstacles so children are not even allowed to encounter dangerous things.

Haidt is speaking up on this and talks about it in he recent book, which is must read for any parent imo.




i think the issue is the way the media sensationalizes everything....they make it appear that the dangers are much more imminent and common then they really are. If a parent hears enough of those sensationalized stories, they are easy prey to manipulation

i hadn't heard of the term bulldozer parent...but it is very fitting
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Re: Free Range Parenting

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:21 pm

Ive heard it as lawnmower parenting, but same concept.
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