Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

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Should marijuana be legalized?

Yes
41
91%
Yes, but only for medical purposes
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No votes
No
2
4%
No, but decriminalize for possession of small amounts (i.e. 1 gram or less)
2
4%
 
Total votes : 45

Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby Buc2 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:14 pm

Feel free to argue your case for or against here. Also, you may change your vote should something cause you to change your mind.

If you think another answer option should be included, let me know and I'll add it.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby uscbucsfan » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:21 pm

Make it legal and tax it.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby uscbucsfan » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:26 pm

I wonder if the No will state their case.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:30 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:Make it legal and tax it.




Just read an article in this. Of all the legal states Alaska has the smallest tax (around 15%, including normal sales tax)....Washington has the highest at over 40%


Personally if it’s legal, I don’t think it, or any product, should get a “sin” tax
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby uscbucsfan » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:36 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:
uscbucsfan wrote:Make it legal and tax it.




Just read an article in this. Of all the legal states Alaska has the smallest tax (around 15%, including normal sales tax)....Washington has the highest at over 40%


Personally if it’s legal, I don’t think it, or any product, should get a “sin” tax


I think that is up to the state as well, but the demand is so high that the tax or cost rarely matters. People will buy it. There will be debates, like there is for the lottery, alcohol, and cigarettes that poor people will buy it, regardless if they can afford it, and that's a reason to A. make it illegal to protect them and B. the price needs to be fixed/regulated for their protection.

I agree sin tax is bad, but again...I think the states will make that determination. Like cigarettes and beer, SC would be the cheapest if they ever made it legal.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby beardmcdoug » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:43 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:I wonder if the No will state their case.


lol I'm sure zarni thinks its me - but it isn't! :stoner:
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:47 pm

Ha! I considered you for sure


But then again with some of your out of left field social views I also considered that you might say we need to forcibly feed it to infants


:P
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby uscbucsfan » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:49 pm

I'm fine with people not wanting it to be legal. If enough of those people live in a state, they should be able to keep it illegal, the same way I believe states should be able to vote on legalization. I just want to hear the qualms, especially compared to alcohol. I want to hear their views on the potential reduction of crime, prisoners, the potential tax money from it, health benefits., etc.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby uscbucsfan » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:50 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:Ha! I considered you for sure


But then again with some of your out of left field social views I also considered that you might say we need to forcibly feed it to infants


:P


Anything for the nuclear family.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby beardmcdoug » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:52 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:
Zarniwoop wrote:Ha! I considered you for sure


But then again with some of your out of left field social views I also considered that you might say we need to forcibly feed it to infants


:P


Anything for the nuclear family.


A family that gets high together, stays together
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby The Outsider » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:48 pm

The sin tax part is unfortunate. However, and I say this as likely the most prolific pot user on this forum, getting fucked on taxes is a preferable alternative to supporting a black market along with risking incarceration or even just difficulties in your life due to minor criminal issues.

As for the qualms related to alcohol, I have all of those. I use both drugs, I can tell you from experience that alcohol is more harmful physically and mentally and has a much more profound impact on your mental faculties than pot. Pot is by no means a perfect substance with no risk, but the fact that we openly sell alcohol and ****ing cigarettes which are frankly among the worst substances you can abuse, but throw people in prison for selling something comparatively innocuous is absurd.

Legalize it, tax the ****ing **** out of it, and I'll ****ing buy it, a lot of it. And so will tons of other people.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby mdb1958 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:00 pm

Legal pot and legal alchohol equals what
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby The Outsider » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:03 pm

mdb1958 wrote:Legal pot and legal alchohol equals what


Less hypocrisy in our handling of personal freedoms. A lower rate of incarceration. A significant increase in tax revenue.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby mdb1958 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:07 pm

The Outsider wrote:
mdb1958 wrote:Legal pot and legal alchohol equals what


Less hypocrisy in our handling of personal freedoms. A lower rate of incarceration. A significant increase in tax revenue.


You got kids yet Outsider?
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby The Outsider » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:13 pm

mdb1958 wrote:
The Outsider wrote:
Less hypocrisy in our handling of personal freedoms. A lower rate of incarceration. A significant increase in tax revenue.


You got kids yet Outsider?


No, but I don't see how that is relevant to this discussion. Did the legality of alcohol impact your ability to raise your children?
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby uscbucsfan » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:14 pm

The Outsider wrote:
mdb1958 wrote:
You got kids yet Outsider?


No, but I don't see how that is relevant to this discussion. Did the legality of alcohol impact your ability to raise your children?


He can barely post on a message board. Of course it does.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby The Outsider » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:20 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:
The Outsider wrote:
No, but I don't see how that is relevant to this discussion. Did the legality of alcohol impact your ability to raise your children?


He can barely post on a message board. Of course it does.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

See, I was trying to be an ambassador for marijuana enthusiasts by showing I could be mature and hold intellectual discourse. But you've ruined me sir.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby Teitan » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:31 pm

The Outsider wrote:Legalize it, tax the ****ing **** out of it
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby mdb1958 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:32 pm

The Outsider wrote:
mdb1958 wrote:
You got kids yet Outsider?


No, but I don't see how that is relevant to this discussion. Did the legality of alcohol impact your ability to raise your children?



Dude, you were standing right there and it took you six minutes to answer me. Now go drink five double jacks and we'll try again.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby DreadNaught » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:37 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:
The Outsider wrote:
No, but I don't see how that is relevant to this discussion. Did the legality of alcohol impact your ability to raise your children?


He can barely post on a message board. Of course it does.


:lol:
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby Brazen331 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:38 pm

I support letting our Vets go to the dispensary to receive the releaf they need if they are so inclined. I think this is superior to what the VA currently does, load them up on opioids and SSRI’s and provide crap mental health counseling. So they save up their Oxycontins and then OD. It can’t be worse than the status quo.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby Teitan » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:40 pm

Brazen331 wrote:I support letting our Vets go to the dispensary to receive the releaf they need if they are so inclined. I think this is superior to what the VA currently does, load them up on opioids and SSRI’s and provide crap mental health counseling. So they save up their Oxycontins and then OD. It can’t be worse than the status quo.



Yep. Edibles, pill form, etc. all superior options than big pharma.


And that’s probably why it’ll never happen.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:42 pm

I’m not sure this board has ever agreed at 90%+ rate on anything


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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby The Outsider » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:43 pm

mdb1958 wrote:
The Outsider wrote:
No, but I don't see how that is relevant to this discussion. Did the legality of alcohol impact your ability to raise your children?



Dude, you were standing right there and it took you six minutes to answer me. Now go drink five double jacks and we'll try again.


Believe it or not I multi-task. Now answer my question instead of throwing out non sequiturs.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby The Outsider » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:44 pm

Brazen331 wrote:I support letting our Vets go to the dispensary to receive the releaf they need if they are so inclined. I think this is superior to what the VA currently does, load them up on opioids and SSRI’s and provide crap mental health counseling. So they save up their Oxycontins and then OD. It can’t be worse than the status quo.


This aspect cannot be overstated.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby PrimeMinister » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:13 pm

Years ago I thought I was against legalization. Once I actually thought about it I couldn’t come up with s single good argument against legalization.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby The Outsider » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:16 pm

The Outsider wrote:
mdb1958 wrote:

Dude, you were standing right there and it took you six minutes to answer me. Now go drink five double jacks and we'll try again.


Believe it or not I multi-task. Now answer my question instead of throwing out non sequiturs.



It's been well over six minutes old man.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby NYBF » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:33 pm

mdb1958 wrote:Legal pot and legal alchohol equals what


Pretty ****ing good beer.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby Miller4Prez64 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:39 pm

There is no reason for it to be illegal. A lot of the things people believed to be harmful about it have shown to be exaggerated, and the amount of benefits it brings just keeps growing. It's a natural plant and I'm far more willing to trust it than half the crap doctors will prescribe.
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Re: Poll: Should marijuana be legalized?

Postby Brazen331 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:37 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:Ha! I considered you for sure


But then again with some of your out of left field social views I also considered that you might say we need to forcibly feed it to infants


:P


Already being done. Cannabidiol (CBD) is a non-psychoactive cannabinoid that is currently being administered to children who suffer from frequent and uncontrollable seizures. It seems to do wonders to alleviate this condition.
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