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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby The Outsider » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:50 pm

RedLeader wrote:
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I never claimed it was. I just said I don't understand it. Which I believe is a perfectly legitimate statement that doesn't confuse my subjective emotional response with everybody else's. I was then told that if I have served or have known/know someone who is serving overseas that I would understand.

I do, I don't, and subsequently provided the reason why. So why is my opinion instantly viewed as an attack on the sentiments of those of you who may feel otherwise?


Obvious trolls are obvious...


It's cute that you think I'm trolling.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby DreadNaught » Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:58 pm

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You and clewy are the only two who put a political spin on this. But please continue projecting about us boys.

You go right on believing that.

It has nothing to do with belief. I'm just reading what has been posted.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:53 pm

DreadNaught wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:You go right on believing that.

It has nothing to do with belief. I'm just reading what has been posted.

I have a different interpretation. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby RedLeader » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:07 pm

The Outsider wrote:
RedLeader wrote:
Obvious trolls are obvious...


It's cute that you think I'm trolling.


You are, and you know it... At least, I don't recall you being so confused last Memorial Day, or anytime someone mentions a lost friend or family member here on the board. ..

"Derp, derp.. I don't get it... duhhhh.. it's just a corpse.. derp derp"



****ing idiot.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Zarniwoop » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:18 pm

RedLeader wrote:
The Outsider wrote:
It's cute that you think I'm trolling.


You are, and you know it... At least, I don't recall you being so confused last Memorial Day, or anytime someone mentions a lost friend or family member here on the board. ..

"Derp, derp.. I don't get it... duhhhh.. it's just a corpse.. derp derp"



****ing idiot.


I’m not getting anything like this from Outsiders posts on this thread....particularly his first couple responses. They seemed pretty live and let live to me.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby RedLeader » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:30 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:
RedLeader wrote:
You are, and you know it... At least, I don't recall you being so confused last Memorial Day, or anytime someone mentions a lost friend or family member here on the board. ..

"Derp, derp.. I don't get it... duhhhh.. it's just a corpse.. derp derp"



****ing idiot.


I’m not getting anything like this from Outsiders posts on this thread....particularly his first couple responses. They seemed pretty live and let live to me.


Then you're extending him one helluva grain of salt...

Maybe I'm wrong, but I've never seen him express so much confusion over grieving for the dead or paying respects before...

It's all just a bit inconspicuously flippant all of a sudden, don't ya think?
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Zarniwoop » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:34 pm

These seems like a perfectly fine response to me

The Outsider wrote:I'm happy for any family those people had to whom this means something but I'll never understand it.



To each their own though
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby RedLeader » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:41 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:These seems like a perfectly fine response to me

The Outsider wrote:I'm happy for any family those people had to whom this means something but I'll never understand it.



To each their own though


Indeed. Again, if he's expressed such confusion over grieving and paying respects before in the many years we've shared this board, I'll eat crow. Otherwise, it's all a bit obvious if you ask me... Again, you want to give it the benefit of the doubt, by all means.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Brazen331 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:47 pm

RedLeader wrote:
Zarniwoop wrote:These seems like a perfectly fine response to me




To each their own though


Indeed. Again, if he's expressed such confusion over grieving and paying respects before in the many years we've shared this board, I'll eat crow. Otherwise, it's all a bit obvious, if you ask me. Again, you want to give it the benefit of the doubt, by all means.


It’s called TDS. If Obama was President he would be praising this action or he wouldn’t comment on it at all. But Trump could find a cure for cancer and Outsider would look for the dark cloud. He can’t help himself. He is a sick man, infected with the TDS virus.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby deltbucs » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:02 pm

Larry and Curly clearly don't understand Outsider's comment. Now all we need to MoeDB to drop in and give us his take. LOL!!
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Brazen331 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:07 pm

bucfanclw wrote:
The Outsider wrote:I'm happy for any family those people had to whom this means something but I'll never understand it.

It's a win for Donald. For some people, that's all that matters.


You are one of those people, are you not?

I know the first thing Clewy said when he saw the extra money in his paycheck after the tax cut. It wasn’t look at the extra money I have for my family but rather, “dammit, Trump got another win.”
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:12 pm

Brazen331 wrote:
RedLeader wrote:
Indeed. Again, if he's expressed such confusion over grieving and paying respects before in the many years we've shared this board, I'll eat crow. Otherwise, it's all a bit obvious, if you ask me. Again, you want to give it the benefit of the doubt, by all means.


It’s called TDS. If Obama was President he would be praising this action or he wouldn’t comment on it at all. But Trump could find a cure for cancer and Outsider would look for the dark cloud. He can’t help himself. He is a sick man, infected with the TDS virus.

Thank you.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Brazen331 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:14 pm

deltbucs wrote:Larry and Curly clearly don't understand Outsider's comment. Now all we need to MoeDB to drop in and give us his take. LOL!!


I explicated Outsider’s pathology perfectly. You are unable to grasp the diagnosis because you suffer from the same syndrome.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:16 pm

Brazen331 wrote:
deltbucs wrote:Larry and Curly clearly don't understand Outsider's comment. Now all we need to MoeDB to drop in and give us his take. LOL!!


I explicated Outsider’s pathology perfectly. You are unable to grasp the diagnosis because you suffer from the same syndrome.

Thank you very much.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Brazen331 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:18 pm

Mountaineer Buc wrote:
Brazen331 wrote:
It’s called TDS. If Obama was President he would be praising this action or he wouldn’t comment on it at all. But Trump could find a cure for cancer and Outsider would look for the dark cloud. He can’t help himself. He is a sick man, infected with the TDS virus.

Thank you.


You’re welcome. Acknowledgment is the first step to recovery.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:21 pm

Brazen331 wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:Thank you.


You’re welcome. Acknowledgment is the first step to recovery.

You're the gift that keeps on giving. I cannot thank you enough.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby The Outsider » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:33 pm

RedLeader wrote:
The Outsider wrote:
It's cute that you think I'm trolling.


You are, and you know it... At least, I don't recall you being so confused last Memorial Day, or anytime someone mentions a lost friend or family member here on the board. ..

"Derp, derp.. I don't get it... duhhhh.. it's just a corpse.. derp derp"



****ing idiot.


I pay my respects in my own way. I don't view a body as significant because all it is is the empty shell the person used to be. It isn't the person anymore. That's not to say I'm advocating disregarding an individual body post-mortem. Most people have preferences for how they want the treatment and disposal of their bodies and make such known before death. Others don't and their loved ones decide. That's all fine with me. But when I die I don't give a crap what happens to my body. I'll be dead.

Anyway, stop being such a ****ing *****. Or, on second thought don't. You've brought this from a simple misunderstanding to something far more entertaining.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Alpha » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:00 pm

The Outsider wrote:
RedLeader wrote:
Obvious trolls are obvious...


It's cute that you think I'm trolling.



Careful or he'll strangle you with the flag he's using as his cape.

RL is a ****ing tool. Same as he ever was.

He's probably still in the closet. Most of those types are.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby RedLeader » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:42 pm

Alpha wrote:
The Outsider wrote:
It's cute that you think I'm trolling.



Careful or he'll strangle you with the flag he's using as his cape.

RL is a ****ing tool. Same as he ever was.

He's probably still in the closet. Most of those types are.


Lol. Wut?
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Alpha » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:08 am

RedLeader wrote:
Alpha wrote:

Careful or he'll strangle you with the flag he's using as his cape.

RL is a ****ing tool. Same as he ever was.

He's probably still in the closet. Most of those types are.


Lol. Wut?


Sorry...I was trying to be subtle. I guess it didn't go over well.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Babeinbucland » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:44 pm

I must have missed how we identified these remains as American Soilders or even human remains. DId they run some tests and I am not aware of it???????
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby DreadNaught » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:53 pm

Babeinbucland wrote:I must have missed how we identified these remains as American Soilders or even human remains. DId they run some tests and I am not aware of it???????


Scientists using DNA testing...

HONOLULU — U.S. Vice President Mike Pence is flying to Hawaii on Wednesday to receive 55 boxes of bones recently handed over by North Korea. The remains are believed to belong to servicemen from the U.S. and other United Nations member countries who fought alongside the U.S. during the Korean War.

Here’s a look at what will happen next:

WHERE WILL THE REMAINS BE TAKEN?

The remains will go to a lab in Hawaii run by the military agency that identifies missing servicemen and women from past conflicts. The Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency identifies remains from battlefields around the world. The agency also has a lab at Offutt Air Force Base near Omaha, Nebraska, though the remains arriving this week will be analyzed at Hawaii’s Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam.

The agency also sends DNA samples for analysis to the Armed Forces DNA Identification Laboratory at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware. Many families who are awaiting the return of their loved ones from the Korean War have already submitted DNA samples to the agency to help in the identification process.

HOW WILL THE REMAINS BE IDENTIFIED?

Typically, the agency’s forensic anthropologists study any evidence found with the remains for clues, such as military uniforms, identification tags and personal items like wedding rings. But North Korea provided only a single military dog tag with the 55 boxes.

The anthropologists also study remains to determine their sex, race, size and age. Scientists search bones for evidence of trauma caused at the time of death and for previous injuries or conditions like arthritis.

Dental experts will compare dental records, including any X-rays, with the remains.

Three-quarters of the remains the agency identifies are determined with the help of mitochondrial DNA, which is a type of DNA that’s passed from mother to child.

The lab does this by taking DNA samples from bones and teeth. The DNA lab in Delaware extracts the mitochondrial DNA from the sample to determine its genetic sequence and compares this with samples provided by relatives.

The agency uses mitochondrial DNA so often because it’s durable and each sample has a large number of copies, making it an effective way to identify bones. Though recent advances in DNA technology have made other types of DNA analysis possible as well.

HOW MANY U.S. SERVICEMEN ARE MISSING FROM THE KOREAN WAR?

There are 7,699 U.S. service members listed as unaccounted for from the 1950-53 Korean War, of which about 5,300 are believed to have died on North Korean soil. There remainder are those who died in South Korea but have not been recovered; those who died in air crashes at sea or on ships at sea, as well as a number who are believed to have been taken to China.

The war killed millions, including 36,000 American soldiers.

Sixteen other United Nations member countries fought alongside U.S. service members on behalf of South Korea. Some of them, including Australia, Belgium, France and the Philippines, have yet to recover some of their war dead from North Korea.


Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has said some remains could turn out to be those of missing from other nations. He said this was an international effort to bring closure for families.

HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO IDENTIFY THE REMAINS?

Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency spokesman Chuck Pritchard says each case will be different. Some could take several months while others could take years.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Buc2 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:02 pm

Babeinbucland wrote:I must have missed how we identified these remains as American Soilders or even human remains. DId they run some tests and I am not aware of it???????


Here you go...
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:03 pm

By tradition, they should be interred in the tomb of the unknowns, but I don't think there's room.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:39 pm

Buc2 wrote:
Babeinbucland wrote:I must have missed how we identified these remains as American Soilders or even human remains. DId they run some tests and I am not aware of it???????


Here you go...



That's better than the old finger pointing one
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Buc2 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:20 am

Zarniwoop wrote:
Buc2 wrote:
Here you go...



That's better than the old finger pointing one

Agreed. They updated it from the last time I used it.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Babeinbucland » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:15 am

https://hillreporter.com/trump-lied-wh- ... g-5334/amp

Wait what?? Trumphitler did get the art of the deal??? But....But...But....HE PROMISED!!!!
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby RedLeader » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:22 am

Babeinbucland wrote:https://hillreporter.com/trump-lied-wh-finally-admits-that-north-korea-is-not-denuclearizing-5334/amp

Wait what?? Trumphitler did get the art of the deal??? But....But...But....HE PROMISED!!!!


Damn it! We shoulda tossed in a few hundred million in cash and released several really dangerous known terrorists from prison to sweeten the pot!


Obviously, Trump still has a lot to learn from Obama.
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby RedLeader » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:26 am

Also, I will say - comparing Trump to Hitler would seem to be a slap in the face of those who actually lived through it and know the difference.

But what do I know. I'm sure your tired rhetoric will play great at the ballot box this time around.



Laaadida...
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Re: Donald Trump vs North Korea

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:01 pm

Child please.

People have been comparing people to Hitler since VE day. So long as he holds the title of "worst human of all time" in contemporary eyes, people will still draw the comparison whenever it suits them to do so.

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