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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby mightyleemoon » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:54 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:They say all tings come in three — some get Corsair


Isn't that a brand of blow dryer or something?
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby deltbucs » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:47 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:They say all tings come in three — some get Corsair

HA!

Honestly, glad to have you back, MLM. Outside of the extremes on both sides that you can just ignore or laugh at, the discussion has been a lot better around here lately, IMO.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby mightyleemoon » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:29 pm

deltbucs wrote:
Zarniwoop wrote:They say all tings come in three — some get Corsair

HA!

Honestly, glad to have you back, MLM. Outside of the extremes on both sides that you can just ignore or laugh at, the discussion has been a lot better around here lately, IMO.


Kinda still looks the same at first glance. The same Republican bozos defending Trump and the same Democrat bozos still screaming Russia.

I just don't understand how such a large portion of the adult population in this country can be so retarded.

Thankfully, outside of politics, they're retard nature is heavily muted.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby DreadNaught » Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:08 pm

mightyleemoon wrote:
deltbucs wrote:HA!

Honestly, glad to have you back, MLM. Outside of the extremes on both sides that you can just ignore or laugh at, the discussion has been a lot better around here lately, IMO.


Kinda still looks the same at first glance. The same Republican bozos defending Trump and the same Democrat bozos still screaming Russia.

I just don't understand how such a large portion of the adult population in this country can be so retarded.

Thankfully, outside of politics, they're retard nature is heavily muted.


lol
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Rocker » Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:17 pm

DreadNaught wrote:
mightyleemoon wrote:
Kinda still looks the same at first glance. The same Republican bozos defending Trump and the same Democrat bozos still screaming Russia.

I just don't understand how such a large portion of the adult population in this country can be so retarded.

Thankfully, outside of politics, they're retard nature is heavily muted.


lol


BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Commander Bubbles » Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:35 pm

mightyleemoon wrote:
Thankfully, outside of politics, their retard nature is heavily muted.


Well, that and driving here in Central Florida.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Rocker » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:41 pm

Manafort ordered to jail and not a peep? Odd.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:42 pm

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Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was jailed Friday after a federal judge revoked his $10 million bail based on new witness tampering charges brought by Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

Washington, D.C., Federal District Judge Amy Berman Jackson sent the onetime power player to jail pending trial moments after he pleaded not guilty to the charges, brought against him and his associate, Konstantin Kilimnik of Moscow.

Mueller accused the pair of obstructing justice in the investigation into Russian meddling and potential collusion with Trump campaign associates in 2016.

Kilimnik was not in court on Friday. He is reportedly in Moscow.

Judge Amy Berman Jackson said she "struggled with this decision." She said the legal standard at play was whether he was a "danger" to the public, meaning was there the possibility of Manafort committing future crimes if allowed to remain out of jail.

The judge rejected the defense's arguments that there was no clear order from the court over who the defendant could and could not contact while preparing for trial. Jackson said she could not "draft a clear enough order" to cover all current and future contacts.

"You have abused the trust placed in you six months ago," Jackson said to Manafort, adding that she could not "turn a blind eye" to the special counsel's new allegations of witness tampering while under order not to do so.

Jackson blasted Manafort, stating that he has treated much of the legal proceedings over the past several months as just another "marketing exercise."

Manafort's trial before Jackson is expected to take place in September. He is also facing charges brought by Mueller in another federal court, and will appear for that case in August.

Manafort was not handcuffed while in the courtroom and did not speak, but turned briefly back to his wife after the order was issued from the bench. He was then led away by marshals, where he will be processed under federal custody.

It is unclear, at this point, which jail Manafort will be taken to.

The filings last week, signed by Mueller, alleged that Manafort and Kilimnik “knowingly and intentionally attempted to corruptly persuade another person…with intent to influence, delay, and prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding.”

Mueller’s third superseding indictment against Manafort came just days after the special counsel accused the former campaign chairman of witness tampering.

Kilimnik, 48, has previously declined to comment on the allegations. He also has denied being connected to Russian intelligence agencies.

A spokesperson for Mueller declined to comment on Friday's development.


Damned witches.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:42 pm

Rocker wrote:Manafort ordered to jail and not a peep? Odd.

Just saw it.

These damned Deep State Judges, eh?
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Rocker » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:57 pm

Mountaineer Buc wrote:
Rocker wrote:Manafort ordered to jail and not a peep? Odd.

Just saw it.

These damned Deep State Judges, eh?


As a born again slightly-left-of-center-but-still-vaguely-conservative guy, damn those pesky Deep State Judges!
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby WalterGronkite » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:23 pm

From a crime committed 12 years ago, yet you guys overlook the nonsense found in the IG report.


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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby mdb1958 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:18 am

Mountaineer Buc wrote:
Rocker wrote:Manafort ordered to jail and not a peep? Odd.

Just saw it.

These damned Deep State Judges, eh?


Somebody needs to trace these boys all the way back to college. It may clarify who gave them their brain wash. It reminds me of a different version of the movie Salt. Its like they brought hundreds of these fellas over here and put them in our colleges. Then they would send messages.

"Dazvsemir, must we cut your life short today".
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Rocker » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:42 am

mdb1958 wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:Just saw it.

These damned Deep State Judges, eh?


Somebody needs to trace these boys all the way back to college. It may clarify who gave them their brain wash. It reminds me of a different version of the movie Salt. Its like they brought hundreds of these fellas over here and put them in our colleges. Then they would send messages.

"Dazvsemir, must we cut your life short today".


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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Brazen331 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:12 am

Mountaineer Buc wrote:
Rocker wrote:Manafort ordered to jail and not a peep? Odd.

Just saw it.

These damned Deep State Judges, eh?

Hope you’re happy with the Manafort scalp, looks like that’s all you’re gonna get before the witch hunt implodes.

Looks like your obstruction case just spontaneously combusted. But, bur, but, he told Lester Holt he fired Comey because of Russia???

Why hasn’t super-stud FBI agent Peter Strzok been fired yet? Could the little bitch be singing to save his own hide? I wonder.

One revelation we did learn was that Obama lied when he denied knowing about Clinton’s private server. He was e-mailing her on it, not that the Leftist media cares.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:54 am

Uh-huh.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:35 am

Thought experiment for you, Brazen.

Let's say that Trump himself was somehow was undeniably exonerated by Meuller himself and the guys like Manafort we the real bad actors here and that was also undeniably proven.

I know you already believe that, but lets say there was a video or something else that's concrete and undeniable that nobody but the most crazed conspiracy theorist could question meaning this investigation is finally put to bed for good leaving Democrats with nothing to say about it.

What would you want Trump to do next? What work is not being done because of this that needs to be done?

There's no wrong answer, just curious.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby mdb1958 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:07 am

Pretending to be blind doesnt make it so.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby deltbucs » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:49 am

mdb1958 wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:Just saw it.

These damned Deep State Judges, eh?


Somebody needs to trace these boys all the way back to college. It may clarify who gave them their brain wash. It reminds me of a different version of the movie Salt. Its like they brought hundreds of these fellas over here and put them in our colleges. Then they would send messages.

"Dazvsemir, must we cut your life short today".

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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Brazen331 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:14 pm

Mountaineer Buc wrote:Thought experiment for you, Brazen.

Let's say that Trump himself was somehow was undeniably exonerated by Meuller himself and the guys like Manafort we the real bad actors here and that was also undeniably proven.

I know you already believe that, but lets say there was a video or something else that's concrete and undeniable that nobody but the most crazed conspiracy theorist could question meaning this investigation is finally put to bed for good leaving Democrats with nothing to say about it.

What would you want Trump to do next? What work is not being done because of this that needs to be done?

There's no wrong answer, just curious.


Here’s the problem with your question: exonerate Trump from what? A video showing undeniable truth Trump is innocent of what?

You have no idea. This investigation was launched to search for a crime, not to investigate one. That’s the problem with this entire exercise.

If Comey was not fired, there would be no special counsel and no investigation. My question is what on earth would CNN, MSNBC and the rest of the refuse be talking about 24/7 if Comey was not fired?

Funny how this text message of Strzok saying ‘we’ll [FBI] stop him [Trump]’ was just produced a couple days ago. Why wasn't it shown last year with the rest? Could it be that it was just too explosive to be revealed when we were trying to start a witch hunt so it had to be withheld?

Reminds me of the photo of a smiling Obama with a grinning Farrakhan...can’t show that before an election.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:14 pm

Well it was worth a try I guess.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby bucfanclw » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:19 pm

Mountaineer Buc wrote:Well it was worth a try I guess.

With Brazen? I gave up on that one a while back. I poke the bear every now and then to get him to spin off on one of his crazy rants, but there is nothing that could ever convince him that this whole thing isn't just a giant set up to take down poor, innocent Trump.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Brazen331 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:13 am

bucfanclw wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:Well it was worth a try I guess.

With Brazen? I gave up on that one a while back. I poke the bear every now and then to get him to spin off on one of his crazy rants, but there is nothing that could ever convince him that this whole thing isn't just a giant set up to take down poor, innocent Trump.


If that was the case, you would think the DOJ would produce the documents to prove their objectivity. But they know they can’t so they stonewall and redact embarrassing information on ‘national security’ grounds.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby mdb1958 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:22 am

This! All of this is so bad Brazen, I would say the US government is in arbitration on how much factual, court decided truth the American people will be allowed to find out.

Its pretty obvious to me that the balance of the US government is run by a separate set of rules depending on which party is in control at the time. This show going on now has a few select individuals stepping over the norms that have been allowed in the past. For 8 years of Obama the Pubs stance was were pretty much powerless and now somehow they have been gifted that into this new administration - very puzzling indeed.

I'd like to know who is in control of this soap opera.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby mdb1958 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:26 am

Sidenote: I bet the Republicans in Congress were just as surprised about Trumps victory as Hillary was!

You know they were all set to wheel and deal as usual.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Brazen331 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:30 am

Mountaineer Buc wrote:Well it was worth a try I guess.


Well, the next time you try, do so when you’re not intoxicated. I’m still not quite sure what’s going on in that meandering morass of a question.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:50 am

Brazen331 wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:Well it was worth a try I guess.


Well, the next time you try, do so when you’re not intoxicated. I’m still not quite sure what’s going on in that meandering morass of a question.

I posted that question at 7:35am yesterday morning.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Brazen331 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:19 am

Mountaineer Buc wrote:
Brazen331 wrote:
Well, the next time you try, do so when you’re not intoxicated. I’m still not quite sure what’s going on in that meandering morass of a question.

I posted that question at 7:35am yesterday morning.


Sometimes I start drinking on Friday night and hy 7:35 AM Saturday, I still haven’t fallen asleep yet, too.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Babeinbucland » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:37 am

Brazen331 wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:I posted that question at 7:35am yesterday morning.


Sometimes I start drinking on Friday night and hy 7:35 AM Saturday, I still haven’t fallen asleep yet, too.



Well, that explains a lot
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:40 pm

Babeinbucland wrote:
Brazen331 wrote:
Sometimes I start drinking on Friday night and hy 7:35 AM Saturday, I still haven’t fallen asleep yet, too.



Well, that explains a lot

Heh.
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Re: CIA and FBI: Russia Interfered in US Election

Postby deltbucs » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:24 pm

Brazen331 wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:I posted that question at 7:35am yesterday morning.


Sometimes I start drinking on Friday night and hy 7:35 AM Saturday, I still haven’t fallen asleep yet, too.

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