Wenchy wrote:Anyone who truly supports either of these jokers should be ashamed of themselves.
Ken Carson wrote:Good thread. Very necessary.
Wenchy wrote:Anyone who truly supports either of these jokers should be ashamed of themselves.
mightyleemoon wrote:Wenchy wrote:Anyone who truly supports either of these jokers should be ashamed of themselves.
Anyone who supports Trump in any aspect is an idiot. Clinton? She's another Obama. She's another Bush. She's another Romney. She's her husband. She's exactly like the rest of the career politicians who pander. Her stances on topics might differ here and there. But, overall? That's all she is. Nothing more. Nothing less. She's nobody to be excited about or anyone to fear. She'll carry on our shitty political traditions with consistency. If you think she's something other than that, then you're a lemming who slurps up too much extreme right wing propaganda.
Trump? He's the evolution of that. He's the real world personification of a reality TV villain. He's playing a part. Does our political culture need a shakeup? Yes. Would Clinton do that? Not a ****ing chance. Would Trump? Yes. But, in the wrong direction. You think back office shady deals in politics is bad? He's going to drag all of that **** front and center. And, he'll get away with it. Instead of a shakeup where we maybe start to come out of the rabbit hole, his aim is to throw us deeper into it. Now, maybe that's a good thing if you think rock bottom is needed in order to turn things around. But, I think he'll show just how much **** politicians can actually get away with and more like him will follow. And, you don't get these views from watching any news source talk about him and tell you who he is. HE is happy to tell you and show you all on his own. He's going to **** with the world and he openly tells us that over and over.
A vote for Clinton says "Let's just continue on this path". A vote for Trump says "Let's see just how shitty and shady we can get".
So, your option is Same vs Worse. It sucks to vote for Same...but it's the only option you have unless you just don't give a **** about this country.
Jonny wrote:mightyleemoon wrote:
Anyone who supports Trump in any aspect is an idiot. Clinton? She's another Obama. She's another Bush. She's another Romney. She's her husband. She's exactly like the rest of the career politicians who pander. Her stances on topics might differ here and there. But, overall? That's all she is. Nothing more. Nothing less. She's nobody to be excited about or anyone to fear. She'll carry on our shitty political traditions with consistency. If you think she's something other than that, then you're a lemming who slurps up too much extreme right wing propaganda.
Trump? He's the evolution of that. He's the real world personification of a reality TV villain. He's playing a part. Does our political culture need a shakeup? Yes. Would Clinton do that? Not a ****ing chance. Would Trump? Yes. But, in the wrong direction. You think back office shady deals in politics is bad? He's going to drag all of that **** front and center. And, he'll get away with it. Instead of a shakeup where we maybe start to come out of the rabbit hole, his aim is to throw us deeper into it. Now, maybe that's a good thing if you think rock bottom is needed in order to turn things around. But, I think he'll show just how much **** politicians can actually get away with and more like him will follow. And, you don't get these views from watching any news source talk about him and tell you who he is. HE is happy to tell you and show you all on his own. He's going to **** with the world and he openly tells us that over and over.
A vote for Clinton says "Let's just continue on this path". A vote for Trump says "Let's see just how shitty and shady we can get".
So, your option is Same vs Worse. It sucks to vote for Same...but it's the only option you have unless you just don't give a **** about this country.
Aren't you a leftist? Why do you despise a yesteryear leftist whose opening line in the debate was genuinely leftist? That stuff he said about Americans losing jobs is something you would expect the idiot Bernie Sanders to say. Okay granted he is masquerading as a right winger, thanks to the rise of economically illiterate and socially conservative folk, but he has outed himself as a leftist on every single issue. Most of the "bigoted" things he has said were about people who are not American or not even currently in America. Why are you so afraid of him? Is it because he does not play for your team?
mightyleemoon wrote:
A vote for Clinton says "Let's just continue on this path". A vote for Trump says "Let's see just how shitty and shady we can get".
Jonny wrote:Aren't you a leftist?
MJW wrote:Hillary Clinton is easily one of the shadiest and most corrupt people every to secure a major party nomination. She just plays the part of being a real human being, which is more than her opponent is willing to do.
beardmcdoug wrote:Look, shady politicians are how we GOT here, to the pinnacle of civilization. What's your beef? The only thing that has wrecked our economy as of late is the runaway influence SHADY BUSINESS.
Shady politicians have always worked with shady business, that's been the natural world since, ****, a couple thousand years, realistically. THE PROBLEM is, never before in the history of mankind, have businesses been capable of concentrating such RIDICULOUS amounts of wealth in such relatively small numbers. They now write the script. And their flexibility in doing so is unprecedented.
Oh, you're going to tax us? Fine, we'll move overseas and avoid that. (see: Apple, Ireland)
Oh, you're going to ask we pay our workers living wages? Factories: over seas (see: every ****ing company in the world)
Oh, you're going to try to impose environmental regulations? Enjoy your next job search, governor *slaps face with stack of 100's*, Jim-Bob Diddley is here and he's happy to do your job (and what we say). Oh we fucked **** up? Ya, fine, we'll pay up a few peanuts.... and make that **** TAX DEDUCTIBLE LOL (see: Gulf oil spill)
Oh, citizens, you want a choice? Media friends, **** their **** up, here's 2 billion to convince those dumb fucks they've got two choices. make that **** interesting too, the kardashians are on a break til november.
SDBucs wrote:beardmcdoug wrote:Look, shady politicians are how we GOT here, to the pinnacle of civilization. What's your beef? The only thing that has wrecked our economy as of late is the runaway influence SHADY BUSINESS.
Shady politicians have always worked with shady business, that's been the natural world since, ****, a couple thousand years, realistically. THE PROBLEM is, never before in the history of mankind, have businesses been capable of concentrating such RIDICULOUS amounts of wealth in such relatively small numbers. They now write the script. And their flexibility in doing so is unprecedented.
Oh, you're going to tax us? Fine, we'll move overseas and avoid that. (see: Apple, Ireland)
Oh, you're going to ask we pay our workers living wages? Factories: over seas (see: every ****ing company in the world)
Oh, you're going to try to impose environmental regulations? Enjoy your next job search, governor *slaps face with stack of 100's*, Jim-Bob Diddley is here and he's happy to do your job (and what we say). Oh we fucked **** up? Ya, fine, we'll pay up a few peanuts.... and make that **** TAX DEDUCTIBLE LOL (see: Gulf oil spill)
Oh, citizens, you want a choice? Media friends, **** their **** up, here's 2 billion to convince those dumb fucks they've got two choices. make that **** interesting too, the kardashians are on a break til november.
Damn you also just made a compelling argument for Trump.
bucfanclw wrote:SDBucs wrote:
Damn you also just made a compelling argument for Trump.
How so? Is your argument really to cut out the middle man and just put shady companies directly in control of the nation?
bucfanclw wrote:SDBucs wrote:
Damn you also just made a compelling argument for Trump.
How so? Is your argument really to cut out the middle man and just put shady companies directly in control of the nation?
beardmcdoug wrote:Look, shady politicians are how we GOT here, to the pinnacle of civilization. What's your beef? The only thing that has wrecked our economy as of late is the runaway influence SHADY BUSINESS.
Shady politicians have always worked with shady business, that's been the natural world since, ****, a couple thousand years, realistically. THE PROBLEM is, never before in the history of mankind, have businesses been capable of concentrating such RIDICULOUS amounts of wealth in such relatively small numbers. They now write the script. And their flexibility in doing so is unprecedented.
Oh, you're going to tax us? Fine, we'll move overseas and avoid that. (see: Apple, Ireland)
Oh, you're going to ask we pay our workers living wages? Factories: over seas (see: every ****ing company in the world)
Oh, you're going to try to impose environmental regulations? Enjoy your next job search, governor *slaps face with stack of 100's*, Jim-Bob Diddley is here and he's happy to do your job (and what we say). Oh we fucked **** up? Ya, fine, we'll pay up a few peanuts.... and make that **** TAX DEDUCTIBLE LOL (see: Gulf oil spill)
Oh, citizens, you want a choice? Media friends, **** their **** up, here's 2 billion to convince those dumb fucks they've got two choices. make that **** interesting too, the kardashians are on a break til november.
Shady politicians of the 1960's, 1970's, 1980's, 1990's, and 2000's HANDED us this world. God love Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton, but those dumb son's of bitches couldn't possibly imagine the fuckery of damage they did helping corporate america shoot the moon the way they've done over the past 40 years. THE ONLY way to pull the emergency breaks on this runaway **** train is to get curmudgeon ass "I don't give a **** about your corporation" (read: socialist) guy in there that is going to RAIL every. single. god. damn. day. about getting money out of politics. THAT'S IT. And so if you're not voting for Bernie Sanders to get THAT MOST BASIC THING, that will have undoubtedly the most positive impact on our society (can YOU come up with a more beneficial rule change for American politics and society over the next century? handing the keys to the democracy back to WE, the people?), then what are you complaining about? You still want "change" though? Well, REAL change isn't coming from a boisterous dumbfuck who is less stable and more full of **** than my ***hole after taco bell. He's not going "**** **** up" like everybody thinks he is - he's not going to chop down that motherfucking desk and yell BYAAHHH. He's going to walk in there, try to wreck everything good we've got going on, get **** blocked in congress on literally everything he wants to do, yell at other countries' leaders for 4 years, make general ***holes out of americans... then he's going to peeter out and leaving us to look back in 50 years thinking, jesus ****ing christ...
So either vote based on your principles, or bite the **** sandwich; just don't bitch when you do, you know what you're doing, and its OK, its really not that bad, its how we GOT here. If you're happy with our country, and think we've been great for the past 50 years; if you want AMERICA, then go vote for Hillary Clinton, she's your president, she'll keep the boat on the path (sure, you'll have to put up with an escalating assault on the white male LOL); but don't get tricked into voting for the ****ing buffoon everybody's got a secret power boner for, expecting some big change in american politics. The guy is making a mockery of what it means to be a successful American. He's a product of the worsts of this country. He doesn't give a **** about America, he just happened to be born here. You don't think he'd be the same meteoric fuckjob sucking Plutus's **** if he were born on the other side of the planet?
SDBucs wrote:bucfanclw wrote:How so? Is your argument really to cut out the middle man and just put shady companies directly in control of the nation?
The first three are the results of globalism, the fourth is the steep influence/corruption that our media takes part in. Trump is against both of these things.
Globalism makes taxes overseas better on business, puts jobs overseas, and uses regulations to accomplish both. The media has wanted you to hate Trump since he first took stage as an anti-establishment/anti-globalism candidate. That alone should make you ask... why?
And if you don't like the power of world corporations anybody supporting the TPP should be on your "No" list.
bucfanclw wrote:SDBucs wrote:
The first three are the results of globalism, the fourth is the steep influence/corruption that our media takes part in. Trump is against both of these things.
Globalism makes taxes overseas better on business, puts jobs overseas, and uses regulations to accomplish both. The media has wanted you to hate Trump since he first took stage as an anti-establishment/anti-globalism candidate. That alone should make you ask... why?
And if you don't like the power of world corporations anybody supporting the TPP should be on your "No" list.
Trump was certainly demonstrating how anti-globalism he was when he violated federal law to pursue business interests in Cuba during the trade embargo. What are your feelings on that one, or are you just going to turtle up in response as usual?
bucfanclw wrote:SDBucs wrote:
The first three are the results of globalism, the fourth is the steep influence/corruption that our media takes part in. Trump is against both of these things.
Globalism makes taxes overseas better on business, puts jobs overseas, and uses regulations to accomplish both. The media has wanted you to hate Trump since he first took stage as an anti-establishment/anti-globalism candidate. That alone should make you ask... why?
And if you don't like the power of world corporations anybody supporting the TPP should be on your "No" list.
Trump was certainly demonstrating how anti-globalism he was when he violated federal law to pursue business interests in Cuba during the trade embargo. What are your feelings on that one, or are you just going to turtle up in response as usual?
SDBucs wrote:bucfanclw wrote:Trump was certainly demonstrating how anti-globalism he was when he violated federal law to pursue business interests in Cuba during the trade embargo. What are your feelings on that one, or are you just going to turtle up in response as usual?
Oh, an uncomfirmed he said she said story broken by CNN. You're bringing the heat! And you really don't get globalism if you think this has much to do with where it is today. But I know I know, you read this "breaking" cuban story on your favorite garbage media site and just had to dangle it around.
Ken Carson wrote:What are your personal thoughts on Cuban relations?
SDBucs wrote:Damn you also just made a compelling argument for Trump.
mightyleemoon wrote:SDBucs wrote:Damn you also just made a compelling argument for Trump.
Yea. He says Shady Business is the issue and your answer is to hire the shadiest business guy to ever business in shade.
SDBucs wrote:mightyleemoon wrote:
Yea. He says Shady Business is the issue and your answer is to hire the shadiest business guy to ever business in shade.
I forgot Trump signed trade deals and enacted laws that allowed businesses to act this way.
bucfanclw wrote:SDBucs wrote:
I forgot Trump signed trade deals and enacted laws that allowed businesses to act this way.
So you think he'd sign deals that would take away the loopholes for his companies to **** on the American worker? How many unpaid bills does he need to have before you realize he doesn't give a **** about anything but his bottom line?
SDBucs wrote:bucfanclw wrote:So you think he'd sign deals that would take away the loopholes for his companies to **** on the American worker? How many unpaid bills does he need to have before you realize he doesn't give a **** about anything but his bottom line?
I'm sure that's what his stances or Islam and our borders are for. For his bottom line. You gotta spend money to make money... er become president, right?
I'm sure the 70 year old man who has made enough to take care of his grandchildren's grandchildren is using his money and reputation just to make even more money.
bucfanclw wrote:SDBucs wrote:
I'm sure that's what his stances or Islam and our borders are for. For his bottom line. You gotta spend money to make money... er become president, right?
I'm sure the 70 year old man who has made enough to take care of his grandchildren's grandchildren is using his money and reputation just to make even more money.
Glad to see you're finally coming to grips with reality.
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