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Re: Random Political News

Postby uscbucsfan » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:25 am

Spoken like someone with seemingly very little self determination or accountability
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Re: Random Political News

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:36 am

Swashy wrote:
Those attributes are not exactly synonymous with modern day capitalism either. Your individual self determination is basically worthless because work for the man at whatever dead end job you can find because your degree that you're $65,000 in debt for is watered down due to a 1,000 other people like you already having one. Meanwhile you're stuck debating on Buczone whether or not that unemployed person is at fault for taking a job that is under paying them and should've held out for something better. What kind of opportunity is that for the worker? Do we just say "ahh you ungrateful swine be happy you have anything at all!!!"?






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Re: Random Political News

Postby RedLeader » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:03 am

Save the drama for yo mama...


There Are a Lot of Reasons to Feel Optimistic about America’s Future

Crime rates? Way down from the 1990s. Drunk-driving rates? They hit a new all-time low a few years ago. Air travel keeps getting safer and cheaper.

Teen-pregnancy rates? Steadily declining. The abortion rate? The lowest since Roe v. Wade passed. Our infant-mortality rate is low and getting even lower.

High-school graduation rates? Highest level ever. With the exception of marijuana, teen drug use is down dramatically. Very few teenagers are succumbing to the national opioid-abuse epidemic. Teenage binge drinking is way lower than in the 1990s.

Slightly more than a third of American adults have a four-year college degree, the highest level ever measured by the U.S. Census Bureau. College enrollment has dropped by 2.4 million since 2011 . . . but one might interpret that as a customer base rejecting an overpriced product.

You’ve heard about the low unemployment rate. When Vice President Mike Pence boasts that more Americans are working than ever before, skeptics scoff that it simply reflects that the American population is larger than ever before. But there are now more job openings than unemployed workers. The all-time high in the employment-to-population ratio was 64.7 percent in April 2000; we’re currently at 60.4 percent. It got as low as 58.2 in 2010. (Census Bureau figures indicate that 4.4 percent of those 85 or older are still working!)

Census Bureau data indicate that the median U.S. household income in 2016 was $59,039 — and that the past two years combined have shown the fastest growth since the 1960s. The poverty rate is 12.7 percent, almost but not quite to pre–Great Recession levels. Yes, we would like to see some better numbers for wage growth, but separate Labor Department data just released days ago showed workers’ wages and salaries increased 2.8 percent over the past year. The Federal Reserve and Wall Street economic forecasters feel confident for the future.

We fear terrorism, but one of the reasons that terrorism and asymmetrical warfare is rising is because conventional war is growing rarer. We don’t have many country-vs.-country wars anymore, and that’s a blessing. We have Russia’s small-scale war against Ukraine. We have civil wars — Syria, Afghanistan, Myanmar, Yemen, Mexico’s struggle against the cartels. (Even in these cases, on a global scale, the number of casualties is declining, although it’s fair to wonder how accurately they can count the dead in places like Syria.) But you don’t see tanks and artillery crossing borders the way you used to — and that’s a blessing.

Every day since 9/11, the jihadists have wanted to execute the most spectacular attack they could. Most days they achieve nothing. Some days they launch attacks in places most Americans have never heard of, and once in a great while, they launch an attack on American soil with a fraction of the casualties of 9/11. We live in a world where most Americans don’t think about terrorism every day, a condition that was unthinkable 17 years ago.

Osama bin Laden is dead. Mullah Omar’s dead too. The Islamic State doesn’t control any territory anymore, and we don’t hear from Ayman al-Zawahiri or Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi much. Considering where we were, and what we feared would follow 9/11, the jihad against the United States must be classified as a catastrophic failure so far.

Coalition military casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan are down dramatically in the past five years.

If you grew up in the 1990s, you probably thought AIDS would be the scourge of the 21st century. New drugs and treatment drove the HIV mortality rate down in the United States by more than 80 percent, and the number of new infections is down by two-thirds. In the 15 years since the Bush administration enacted PEPFAR — the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief — the program has saved 14 million lives....

If, as Yuval Levin says, conservatism begins with gratitude for what is good and what works in our society and then striving to build on it, we can and should be thankful to be living in this moment, and in this society — even with all of its flaws and the daily screaming headlines of bad news...

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morn ... ssion=true
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Re: Random Political News

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:07 am

Good article Red. I can say with ZERO uncertainty.... even with our proclivity to romanticize the past, there isn't another time period or another country I'd rather be living in then right now in the US.
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Re: Random Political News

Postby DreadNaught » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:49 am

Sounds like Swash could benefit from some Jordan Peterson in his life as that post was pretty nihilistic. :D

Good post RL, saw that article this AM. This excerpt is exactly why I consider myself a conservative.

conservatism begins with gratitude for what is good and what works in our society and then striving to build on it
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Re: Random Political News

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:53 am

What a relief.

Here I was thinking that wages had been stagnant for decades while the cost of housing, healthcare, and education went up drastically. As it turns out, everything is fine though.

Takes a real load off my mind.
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Re: Random Political News

Postby DreadNaught » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:06 am

Mountaineer Buc wrote:What a relief.

Here I was thinking that wages had been stagnant for decades while the cost of housing, healthcare, and education went up drastically. As it turns out, everything is fine though.

Takes a real load off my mind.


Nice strawman. Glad you feel better though.
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Re: Random Political News

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:19 am

Yep, real wages are not declining. They aren't growing rapidly (and honestly, why should they?), but they certainly aren't declining on the whole



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The value of work related benefits are rising pretty quickly though

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Re: Random Political News

Postby RedLeader » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:30 am

Mountaineer Buc wrote:What a relief.

Here I was thinking that wages had been stagnant for decades while the cost of housing, healthcare, and education went up drastically. As it turns out, everything is fine though.

Takes a real load off my mind.




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Re: Random Political News

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:14 pm

I love how you guys think I make **** up.

Mountaineer Buc wrote:To summarize:
2018 Inflation adjusted wage growth +0.6%
2018 projected GDP growth outpacing inflation adjusted wage growth by 2%
Bottom 50% of wage earners receiving 23% or less of all economic growth.
Inflation adjusted federal minimum wage is $6.25 per hour.

Roughly 40% of Americans cannot afford a $1,000 emergency. 27 million Americans are working part time.



Mountaineer Buc wrote:
Zarniwoop wrote:

The ratio of full time jobs compared to part time jobs has increased rapidly the last few years. It is at its highest in 15 years and getting exponentially better.

The ratio of new jobs that are full time to new jobs that are part time is at its highest in over 30 years.

43% of Americans earn $25,000 per year or less. ($12 per hour full time)
70% of Americans earn $50,000 per year or less. ($24 per hour full time)

As good as these employment numbers and ratios are, there is still a substantial amount of the workforce that is under per capita GDP of $59,500.



Mountaineer Buc wrote:
Zarniwoop wrote:Of course 43% of workers make less than 25K per year because the vast majority of those workers are part time. The 70% number suffers from the same manipulation. The vast majority of part time workers are part time by choice. I think the U6 number is under 10%

But the 27 million workers I cited as part time represent about 17% of the workforce.

EDIT: Confirmed 17% according to the BLS
https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat08.htm

So we have 17% of the workforce working 35 hours or less leaving the remaining 82% (111.6 million people) at full time.

That brings me back to this.

43% of Americans earn $25,000 per year or less. ($12 per hour full time)
70% of Americans earn $50,000 per year or less. ($24 per hour full time)

Edit 2: Link for this premise.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_income_in_the_United_States#Income_distribution

If 82% of the workforce is working full time, roughly a quarter of them (about 27.9 million full time workers) are earning $25,000 per year or less.



Mountaineer Buc wrote:so we have a combined 54.9 million workers....whether working full or part time....earning $25,000 per year or less.

Again. That is 43% of all people working.
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Re: Random Political News

Postby Buc2 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:15 pm

God, our country sucks. Everyone should leave.
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Re: Random Political News

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:18 pm

Mountaineer Buc wrote:I love how you guys think I make **** up.

Mountaineer Buc wrote:To summarize:
2018 Inflation adjusted wage growth +0.6%
2018 projected GDP growth outpacing inflation adjusted wage growth by 2%
Bottom 50% of wage earners receiving 23% or less of all economic growth.
Inflation adjusted federal minimum wage is $6.25 per hour.

Roughly 40% of Americans cannot afford a $1,000 emergency. 27 million Americans are working part time.



Mountaineer Buc wrote:43% of Americans earn $25,000 per year or less. ($12 per hour full time)
70% of Americans earn $50,000 per year or less. ($24 per hour full time)

As good as these employment numbers and ratios are, there is still a substantial amount of the workforce that is under per capita GDP of $59,500.



Mountaineer Buc wrote:But the 27 million workers I cited as part time represent about 17% of the workforce.

EDIT: Confirmed 17% according to the BLS
https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat08.htm

So we have 17% of the workforce working 35 hours or less leaving the remaining 82% (111.6 million people) at full time.

That brings me back to this.


Edit 2: Link for this premise.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_income_in_the_United_States#Income_distribution

If 82% of the workforce is working full time, roughly a quarter of them (about 27.9 million full time workers) are earning $25,000 per year or less.



Mountaineer Buc wrote:so we have a combined 54.9 million workers....whether working full or part time....earning $25,000 per year or less.

Again. That is 43% of all people working.




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Re: Random Political News

Postby DreadNaught » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:23 pm

Is this where someone argues that doing away with Capitalism will increase median wages? :cartman:
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Re: Random Political News

Postby Stuart » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:24 pm

DreadNaught wrote:Is this where someone argues that doing away with Capitalism will increase median wages? :cartman:



nah, it's for testing ones googling ability
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Re: Random Political News

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:26 pm

DreadNaught wrote:Is this where someone argues that doing away with Capitalism will increase median wages? :cartman:



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Re: Random Political News

Postby Swashy » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:32 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:Spoken like someone with seemingly very little self determination or accountability


I had a long detailed response made and decided to leave it simple: If you understood the amount of bullshit that occurs in the normal, every day Floridian hospital you'd understand why I left my career as an RN after going to college for 4 years, working 30 hours a week during and striking out on my own at 24 because I got sick and tired of kissing CHS corporate ass working 15 hours a day, 7 patients a day every day for 3 years with little else than a fleet of excuses why things could never get better. What I found even at St. Joseph was little better and they were non-profit. My determination is just fine, USC. That's why I never went back to it.

I don't want sympathy. I don't want condolences. I don't want anything. I'm gonna be fine. I just want things to change so my daughter can and will have a better future than the young adults of today when she comes of age. The wage earner is an afterthought and the middle class is slowly disappearing in the cost of living. It has nothing to do with entitlement, not wanting to leave home or any other fabricated reasons that previously successful generations have come up with. It has everything to do that every summer we introduce more and more children into the society of the working poor.

If I'm guilty of anything it's that I go about my concerns the wrong way.
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Re: Random Political News

Postby Swashy » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:35 pm

DreadNaught wrote:Is this where someone argues that doing away with Capitalism will increase median wages? :cartman:


No, stopping the spoon feeding of corporate America and putting that money into things like teacher's salaries will help fix that.

#itsstartedbeingsocialismwhenthatmoneyhelpedsomeoneelseotherthanmuhbusinessthattoesthelineonminimumwage
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Re: Random Political News

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:41 pm

Swashy wrote:
DreadNaught wrote:Is this where someone argues that doing away with Capitalism will increase median wages? :cartman:


No, stopping the spoon feeding of corporate America and putting that money into things like teacher's salaries will help fix that.



you won't find a single person on this board that supports corporate cronyism or corporate bailouts or corporate handouts.
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Re: Random Political News

Postby Swashy » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:46 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:
Swashy wrote:
No, stopping the spoon feeding of corporate America and putting that money into things like teacher's salaries will help fix that.



you won't find a single person on this board that supports corporate cronyism or corporate bailouts or corporate handouts.


Well that depends. I thought the big 2008 bailout was a necessary evil. Let things like GM die and what's left? Wealth redistribution does in fact helps very little because that depends on where it goes. If you're gonna try it then use it effectively. I'm sorry but teachers helped me get where I am today and I will always staunchly advocate that they be paid more. It's gotta come from somewhere dude -no matter what we're gonna be taking from someone else to give to them because money is too tied up at the top. Paying our teachers more is a massive start in the right direction.
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Re: Random Political News

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:17 pm

you might be right about the auto bailout...i do remember a few on the original board supporting that and arguing with them. i don't remember many saying we needed to bail out the banks.


as far as teachers...that's a state thing...in some states teachers have excellent compensation structures...in others they don't.


the average teacher salary in texas is just north of $50,000. Given the incredible benefits package they get, that seems fine to me. I would agree that great teachers aren't paid enough....but that's a whole different story and falls back onto themselves.
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Re: Random Political News

Postby uscbucsfan » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:20 pm

Swashy wrote:
I don't want sympathy. I don't want condolences. I don't want anything. I'm gonna be fine. I just want things to change so my daughter can and will have a better future than the young adults of today when she comes of age. The wage earner is an afterthought and the middle class is slowly disappearing in the cost of living. It has nothing to do with entitlement, not wanting to leave home or any other fabricated reasons that previously successful generations have come up with. It has everything to do that every summer we introduce more and more children into the society of the working poor.

If I'm guilty of anything it's that I go about my concerns the wrong way.

It sounds like you want the government to fix your mistakes. You've complained about having crippling debt, not being able to afford a house, not being able to afford college for your daughter, and seemingly brag about quitting a decent job to "not having to deal with corporate bullshit". Those are all on you. You blaming the economic structure or the wealthy is proving my previous post correct.

I grew up really poor. I worked through High School and College and took out 40k in student loans. I enlisted in the military to pay for my Master's and lived an extremely meager lifestyle to pay off my debt. After the military I worked 80 hour weeks kissing ass to climb the corporate ladder.I waited until I was almost 30 and started my long term career before I had children and now things are going well for me, but I battled to get here and I've hit every bump along the way. My story is not unqique in this country, but it requires scarifice, self-determination, and accountability.

Maybe just help your daughter become a more successful and motivated person and she will live the better life that myself and many others have achieved.
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Re: Random Political News

Postby NYBF » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:51 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:
Swashy wrote:
No, stopping the spoon feeding of corporate America and putting that money into things like teacher's salaries will help fix that.



you won't find a single person on this board that supports corporate cronyism or corporate bailouts or corporate handouts.


No?

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4401
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Re: Random Political News

Postby DreadNaught » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:52 pm

The government is NOT going to make your life better. People who think it will if "things change" are in for a rude awakening.

Don't get me wrong, I think trying to make things better is a noble pursuit. We should all work to cultivate a better civilization while we're here. But don't believe for a second that doing so alleviates any personal responsibility you have as an individual to improve you and your families circumstances.
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Re: Random Political News

Postby uscbucsfan » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:54 pm

NYBF wrote:
Zarniwoop wrote:

you won't find a single person on this board that supports corporate cronyism or corporate bailouts or corporate handouts.


No?

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4401

You are the king of ignoring context.
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Re: Random Political News

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:56 pm

DreadNaught wrote:The government is NOT going to make your life better. People who think it will if "things change" are in for a rude awakening.



The government absolutely makes some people's lives better...the problem is that it does so at the expense of others.
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Re: Random Political News

Postby DreadNaught » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:08 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:
DreadNaught wrote:The government is NOT going to make your life better. People who think it will if "things change" are in for a rude awakening.


The government absolutely makes some people's lives better...the problem is that it does so at the expense of others.


Maybe in the short term they can provide some relief for people on hard times which is a great privilege of being here. But I strongly believe that only you can make your own life better long term and reliance on the government is not a long term strategy for a fulfilled and meaningful life imo.

But sure, living on government entitlements is better than being homeless I suppose. But I'd hope able-bodied and able-minded people would want more for themselves.
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Re: Random Political News

Postby Swashy » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:13 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:
Swashy wrote:
I don't want sympathy. I don't want condolences. I don't want anything. I'm gonna be fine. I just want things to change so my daughter can and will have a better future than the young adults of today when she comes of age. The wage earner is an afterthought and the middle class is slowly disappearing in the cost of living. It has nothing to do with entitlement, not wanting to leave home or any other fabricated reasons that previously successful generations have come up with. It has everything to do that every summer we introduce more and more children into the society of the working poor.

If I'm guilty of anything it's that I go about my concerns the wrong way.

It sounds like you want the government to fix your mistakes. You've complained about having crippling debt, not being able to afford a house, not being able to afford college for your daughter, and seemingly brag about quitting a decent job to "not having to deal with corporate bullshit". Those are all on you. You blaming the economic structure or the wealthy is proving my previous post correct.

I grew up really poor. I worked through High School and College and took out 40k in student loans. I enlisted in the military to pay for my Master's and lived an extremely meager lifestyle to pay off my debt. After the military I worked 80 hour weeks kissing ass to climb the corporate ladder.I waited until I was almost 30 and started my long term career before I had children and now things are going well for me, but I battled to get here and I've hit every bump along the way. My story is not unqique in this country, but it requires scarifice, self-determination, and accountability.

Maybe just help your daughter become a more successful and motivated person and she will live the better life that myself and many others have achieved.


Since when in God's name did I say that? The part where I said like 4 times in the last month that I don't want a hand, sympathy, help et al? I had a job offer less than 6 months ago for $30 an hour and turned it down because it was never going to make me happy and it was going to be an even worse version of what I had worked in. Dude I don't need you to tell me that personal choice has consequences. No one here does. Everyone's decision is on them. That's the entire whole reason I speak my personal business.I have come here to tell what choices I have made and how it has affected me any my family. If I wanted sympathy I'd talk to my mother, who is an RN herself and is horrified at what the healthcare system has become and understands why I burned out and left.

I don't think you're getting my intentions. I'm trying to say "I left my career field. This is really gonna suck now. But what can I do it didn't make me happy. I can make enough and hate it or I can struggle along and it not be so bad. I don't know cheer me on boys this is gonna be a long process" and I'm saying how it goes for us. If I wasn't clear then fine, I didn't articulate it effectively and that's on me. The whole idea was that I offer myself as proof of my rhetoric that the average guy doesn't make it very well. I don't know how you're getting anything else but somehow all that has turned into "boo hoo" to you. But whatever I can't explain this any further. I can go back at any time and choose not to because a corrupted Florida healthcare system that I went to college for is not my slice of pie.

If I made a mistake revealing my personal business to let you guys better off than me that things are immensely difficult well then oh well, that's too late. It's not going to change that I want a better future for everyone. As for my daughter, I've already laid down the plan for my daughter to work when she's 14 and I hang onto the money, start her a credit card and by the time she's 18 she'll have a car she earned on her own and 4 years of employment and though she fights me now, my plan is that on her 14th birthday she's gonna get $100 in her hands and a driving lesson and she's gonna realize the privileges that come with responsibility and adulthood.
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Re: Random Political News

Postby uscbucsfan » Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:06 pm

Swashy wrote:

If I made a mistake revealing my personal business to let you guys better off than me that things are immensely difficult well then oh well, that's too late. It's not going to change that I want a better future for everyone.


I too want a better future for everyone,but I don't see the logic in taking from 70% of the population to provide to 30% of the population. As I've said many times, from my 6 years of living in socialized and semi-socialized countries coupled with reading and studies, they live much more meager and in my opinion far worse lives than a majority of Americans. Massive encompassing social programs destroy what most Americans consider the middle class lifestyle. The rich will always be rich and everyone else is brought to a standard (down for most, up for some) and I'm completely against that standard.

I'm not turning my nose up at you for your choices, but you seem to cast your life to the general population with your expletive laden post bitching about how this country is going to **** and it's all coming down. I disagree with that. Your situation is your own, just like mine. I think things are better now than they've ever been economically, certainly in my lifetime. I understand that's not the case for everyone and work still needs to be done, but when I compare the majority of our population to those in socialized countries, I think we are in a much better place. I do not think things are perfect and I have my own variation of changes that should be made and it starts with less big government.
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Re: Random Political News

Postby Swashy » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:24 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:
Swashy wrote:

If I made a mistake revealing my personal business to let you guys better off than me that things are immensely difficult well then oh well, that's too late. It's not going to change that I want a better future for everyone.


I too want a better future for everyone,but I don't see the logic in taking from 70% of the population to provide to 30% of the population. As I've said many times, from my 6 years of living in socialized and semi-socialized countries coupled with reading and studies, they live much more meager and in my opinion far worse lives than a majority of Americans. Massive encompassing social programs destroy what most Americans consider the middle class lifestyle. The rich will always be rich and everyone else is brought to a standard (down for most, up for some) and I'm completely against that standard.

I'm not turning my nose up at you for your choices, but you seem to cast your life to the general population with your expletive laden post bitching about how this country is going to **** and it's all coming down. I disagree with that. Your situation is your own, just like mine. I think things are better now than they've ever been economically, certainly in my lifetime. I understand that's not the case for everyone and work still needs to be done, but when I compare the majority of our population to those in socialized countries, I think we are in a much better place. I do not think things are perfect and I have my own variation of changes that should be made and it starts with less big government.


Dude what do you think I'm talking about?? 70% of the country what are you talking about and where are you getting that number? This is what I want

1. I want to see Bush era/Trump era tax cuts for the super rich stopped.
2. I want to see wages keep up with the increased cost of living
3. I want to see a decrease in military/defense spending from the $2.2 billion a day we averaged from last year. Surely it can be done for less
4. A decrease in federal spending period

In the end I'm asking for a return to previous American policies. It would not be easy and it would have a lot of immediate, dramatic effects but it IS possible because we did it for nearly the entire 20th century and we did it without any of it being called socialism or entitlement.
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Re: Random Political News

Postby uscbucsfan » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:45 pm

Swashy wrote:
uscbucsfan wrote:
I too want a better future for everyone,but I don't see the logic in taking from 70% of the population to provide to 30% of the population. As I've said many times, from my 6 years of living in socialized and semi-socialized countries coupled with reading and studies, they live much more meager and in my opinion far worse lives than a majority of Americans. Massive encompassing social programs destroy what most Americans consider the middle class lifestyle. The rich will always be rich and everyone else is brought to a standard (down for most, up for some) and I'm completely against that standard.

I'm not turning my nose up at you for your choices, but you seem to cast your life to the general population with your expletive laden post bitching about how this country is going to **** and it's all coming down. I disagree with that. Your situation is your own, just like mine. I think things are better now than they've ever been economically, certainly in my lifetime. I understand that's not the case for everyone and work still needs to be done, but when I compare the majority of our population to those in socialized countries, I think we are in a much better place. I do not think things are perfect and I have my own variation of changes that should be made and it starts with less big government.


Dude what do you think I'm talking about?? 70% of the country what are you talking about and where are you getting that number? This is what I want

1. I want to see Bush era/Trump era tax cuts for the super rich stopped.
2. I want to see wages keep up with the increased cost of living
3. I want to see a decrease in military/defense spending from the $2.2 billion a day we averaged from last year. Surely it can be done for less
4. A decrease in federal spending period

In the end I'm asking for a return to previous American policies. It would not be easy and it would have a lot of immediate, dramatic effects but it IS possible because we did it for nearly the entire 20th century and we did it without any of it being called socialism or entitlement.

Tax cuts are good accross the board as long as they come with spending cuts, but that's a philosophical debate.

I'm obviously all for reducing the military budget.

70% is just a tossed out number and likely pretty conservative of people who would have to pay more in taxes to provide Medicare for all, college tuition, and a UBI. Three things you've called for to "help the country". It's hard to keep up with your "wants". One moment you say "tax the living **** out of the rich" and you want these programs and the next you make a blanket claim to be a conservative and call to reduce federal spending.

At least MB acknowledges that most Americans would have to pay more and would have less to acheive his social goals. He simply says people need to change their priorities.
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