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Re: All Things Beer

Postby bucfanclw » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:33 pm

Mountaineer Buc wrote:
Zarniwoop wrote:In one of my classes kids have to do industry reports -- one of course chose to do beer.

With all the consolidations and M&As, we don't have a really large American owned mass beer producer anymore...Pabst is the biggest at just over 2% market share




I know lots here don't really like the watered down flavor of a Coors Light or something like that, but I do.

I contend that American style lagers have their place in the beer universe, but that place is in the summer. This is Porter and Stout season.

On nitro. Nitro makes the holidays brighter.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby NYBF » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:48 pm

bucfanclw wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:I contend that American style lagers have their place in the beer universe, but that place is in the summer. This is Porter and Stout season.

On nitro. Nitro makes the holidays brighter.



Last night I had a brown ale made with waffles, chocolate syrup, and lactose sugar (Stranger Things inspired). They then took that beer, let it sit on cherries, and ran it through nitro. Man...
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby Bucs N Beers » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:09 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:In case you haven't tried it...The maple version is better.
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Fuuuuuuuuuudge that sounds awesome.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby uscbucsfan » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:28 pm

Bucs N Beers wrote:
uscbucsfan wrote:In case you haven't tried it...The maple version is better.
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Fuuuuuuuuuudge that sounds awesome.

Almost $40 per bottle, but it is great.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:00 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:
Bucs N Beers wrote:
Fuuuuuuuuuudge that sounds awesome.

Almost $40 per bottle, but it is great.

Now this brings us to one of my gripes.

Craft brewers are inflating the beer market.

I get that these brewers are creating unique flavors and higher quality breed than the mass marketed stuff we grew up with and by doing so have raised the bar, but there's no beer under God's hot sun that is worth $40 a serving.

Beer is the glorious concoction passed down from millenia that is of, by, and for hard working people and the attempt to gentrify this wonderfully simple thing has driven up the cost of all but the cheapest brews beyond what many hard working people whom the beer is meant for in the first place can make with an hour's labor.

Whatever happened to nickel beer night? It was replaced with $4 draft happy hour. And craft beer shares a portion of the blame for this injustice.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby uscbucsfan » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:34 pm

How is it not worth the money? It's a limited release that sold out almost immediately. Seems like they priced it just fine.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby Kress » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:08 am

uscbucsfan wrote:It's why we have the best beer in the world


Germany holding on line 2, Ireland on 3, and crap, now Belgium is buzzing in.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby uscbucsfan » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:39 am

I've lived in Germany (2 years) and England(3 years). It's not close. Germany has regulations on their beer making so they do not have variety. England has similar issues. America has everything they have and infinitely more options. That sterotype is out of date. The craft beer craze puts us at the top easily. Again, it's not even close.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby uscbucsfan » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:57 am

While I don't think it's subjective that America is the best in beer because of the variety. My opinion is that if you pick the best brewery from each of those countries, I think theres 1-2 better breweries in most states. I mean, even in SC, I'd put Westbrook or Birds Fly South against any of them. NC has maybe 6 I'd put above anything in England, Germany, Belgium, or Ireland. I'm a huge beer drinker, so I did visit many breweries in those countries.

edit: Just out of curiosity, can you name 5 breweries from each of those countries without Googling? Most cannot. In fact I've asked people that before in person and many can't name any from those countries outside of Guinness or Delirium Tremens(which is a beer, not the brewer).
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:12 am

uscbucsfan wrote:How is it not worth the money? It's a limited release that sold out almost immediately. Seems like they priced it just fine.

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Re: All Things Beer

Postby NYBF » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:51 am

uscbucsfan wrote:How is it not worth the money? It's a limited release that sold out almost immediately. Seems like they priced it just fine.


Don't let the fact that something which was "limited" and then sold out mean it is worth the price they're charging for it. Every Bourbon County variation is "limited" and sells out. And the last how many years one of the variants was infected? If you're one of the people who bought a bottle and then missed goose island's incredibly narrow return window, I doubt you think your purchase was worth it.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby Bucs N Beers » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:14 am

All craft beers upcharge their specialty items, but EvilTwin is notoriously expensive. Throw in the fact that it's a collab, maple, bourbon, limited release? It does not surprise me one bit that it was $40. The one I had previously (the non-maple version of the same beer) was around $20. These are also 22oz bombers so they are almost 2 beers, but still definitely overpriced. There is some EvilTwin can beers at the store for $8-$10. They're just expensive.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby Selmon Rules » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:57 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:I've lived in Germany (2 years) and England(3 years). It's not close. Germany has regulations on their beer making so they do not have variety. England has similar issues. America has everything they have and infinitely more options. That sterotype is out of date. The craft beer craze puts us at the top easily. Again, it's not even close.

If you want to say the US has the biggest variety of quality beer, that's fine.... But I'd still take a traditional German bier (Pilsner, Helles, Hefe Weisen, or Dunkel) over any of the artsy, fruity infused concoctions being brewed up today. IPA beers became a contest to see who could cram the most hops in their beer and created some of the most unpalatable beer on the market, too bitter to drink....

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Re: All Things Beer

Postby Kress » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:36 pm

As far as stout is concerned, don't put Guinness over Murphy's.

Othetrwise:

Smithwicks
Beamish
Harp
Kilkenny
O'Hara
Kinnegar
Trouble
Boundary
Fulcrum
Galway Bay

That's off the top of my head.

Just googled:

http://www.belgiansmaak.com/irish-beers-to-try-in-2015/
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby Rocker » Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:01 pm

Harp is fantastic.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:06 pm

Selmon Rules wrote:
uscbucsfan wrote:I've lived in Germany (2 years) and England(3 years). It's not close. Germany has regulations on their beer making so they do not have variety. England has similar issues. America has everything they have and infinitely more options. That sterotype is out of date. The craft beer craze puts us at the top easily. Again, it's not even close.

If you want to say the US has the biggest variety of quality beer, that's fine.... But I'd still take a traditional German bier (Pilsner, Helles, Hefe Weisen, or Dunkel) over any of the artsy, fruity infused concoctions being brewed up today. IPA beers became a contest to see who could cram the most hops in their beer and created some of the most unpalatable beer on the market, too bitter to drink....

To the Pit of Misery!!!

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Re: All Things Beer

Postby NYBF » Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:36 pm

Selmon Rules wrote:
uscbucsfan wrote:I've lived in Germany (2 years) and England(3 years). It's not close. Germany has regulations on their beer making so they do not have variety. England has similar issues. America has everything they have and infinitely more options. That sterotype is out of date. The craft beer craze puts us at the top easily. Again, it's not even close.

If you want to say the US has the biggest variety of quality beer, that's fine.... But I'd still take a traditional German bier (Pilsner, Helles, Hefe Weisen, or Dunkel) over any of the artsy, fruity infused concoctions being brewed up today. IPA beers became a contest to see who could cram the most hops in their beer and created some of the most unpalatable beer on the market, too bitter to drink....

To the Pit of Misery!!!


Don't forget the shitbag brewers adding flour to make their IPAs mimic the stupid New England style.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby The Outsider » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:53 pm

Selmon Rules wrote:
uscbucsfan wrote:I've lived in Germany (2 years) and England(3 years). It's not close. Germany has regulations on their beer making so they do not have variety. England has similar issues. America has everything they have and infinitely more options. That sterotype is out of date. The craft beer craze puts us at the top easily. Again, it's not even close.

If you want to say the US has the biggest variety of quality beer, that's fine.... But I'd still take a traditional German bier (Pilsner, Helles, Hefe Weisen, or Dunkel) over any of the artsy, fruity infused concoctions being brewed up today. IPA beers became a contest to see who could cram the most hops in their beer and created some of the most unpalatable beer on the market, too bitter to drink....

To the Pit of Misery!!!



Yeah, Paulaner's Oktoberfest Marzen is my over all favorite beer. I also agree about the IPAs at this point it's gone too far and is frankly played out.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby NYBF » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:02 pm

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uscbucsfan wrote:Founders Canadian Breakfast Stout is really good.


Couldn't find any around here without waiting on a ridiculous line. No thanks.


Went to my distributor this morning to pick up beer for today. Grabbed some, walked up to the register. As the guy is ringing me up, I turn around to talk to one of the guys who work there, and 3' away from me is a full, open case of CBS. I've never had it before, so I grabbed one.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby uscbucsfan » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:06 pm

I got a score for Christmas Eve/Day:

3 x Prairie Christmas Bombs (great this year)
1 x Prairie Vanilla Noir
1 x Oskar Blues Barrel Aged Ten Fiddy
1 x Omnipollo Mango Milkshake IPA (not sure how I'll feel about this)
4 x D9 Dark Side of the Moon
1 x Brooklyn Black Ops
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby uscbucsfan » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:07 pm

NYBF wrote:
NYBF wrote:
Couldn't find any around here without waiting on a ridiculous line. No thanks.


Went to my distributor this morning to pick up beer for today. Grabbed some, walked up to the register. As the guy is ringing me up, I turn around to talk to one of the guys who work there, and 3' away from me is a full, open case of CBS. I've never had it before, so I grabbed one.


So? How do you like it?
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby NYBF » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:56 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:
NYBF wrote:
Went to my distributor this morning to pick up beer for today. Grabbed some, walked up to the register. As the guy is ringing me up, I turn around to talk to one of the guys who work there, and 3' away from me is a full, open case of CBS. I've never had it before, so I grabbed one.


So? How do you like it?


I'll probably be drinking it Saturday morning, during El Clasico. I'll be sure to report back.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby Bucs N Beers » Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:52 pm

Thought my CBS would make it longer, but I couldn't wait. Probably should have. It bordered on being too sweet, but was still very good.

As the cold weather season is coming to an end, I've started running through some of my good stuff.

Drank my CBS and Prairie Bomb. Next to go will be my Hardywood Bourbon Barrel GBS.

Last will be my Coffee Bourbon County.


Last note - I came across a Funky Buddha Maple Bacon Coffee Porter. Holy ****. First sip instantly put it in to my top 5 beers of all time.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby NYBF » Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:09 pm

Woops. Forgot to update. Yeah... CBS was really good. Perfect for breakfast. Grabbed another bottle to bring for a steak and eggs breakfast when I go away with some friends for a beer festival.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby Phantom Phenom » Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:05 pm

I’ve replaced beer with water. I think this is healthy
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby Deuce » Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:07 pm

bucfanclw wrote:3 Daughters - Well known local, I like the bimini twist


I'll get killed for posting this here but...

I just can't do beer. I don't know what it is. I do liquor or hard ciders. I can stomach some sour beers, the more sour the better, or wheat beers, like Blue Moon.

Anyway, 3 Daughters makes a Key Lime Hard Cider that is amazing. I've gotten away from the ones with 20+ grams of sugar like Woodchuck, Angry Orchard, and Strongbow. My favorites are now this Key Lime and Ace Pineapple.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby NYBF » Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:10 pm

Deuce wrote:I just can't do beer. I don't know what it is. I do liquor or hard ciders. I can stomach some sour beers, the more sour the better, or wheat beers, like Blue Moon.


So sour or wheat you like. But the rest... no? I wouldn't kill you for that. Wheat is understandable... but I don't know that I've ever met a sour fan who doesn't like any other beers. That's interesting. Sours are usually one of those things you've got to work your way to. Like peaty Scotch.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby Deuce » Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:23 pm

NYBF wrote:
Deuce wrote:I just can't do beer. I don't know what it is. I do liquor or hard ciders. I can stomach some sour beers, the more sour the better, or wheat beers, like Blue Moon.


So sour or wheat you like. But the rest... no? I wouldn't kill you for that. Wheat is understandable... but I don't know that I've ever met a sour fan who doesn't like any other beers. That's interesting. Sours are usually one of those things you've got to work your way to. Like peaty Scotch.


Just looked it up and the beer I was drinking at a local brewery was a sour wheat beer, apparently. That's probably why.

Yeah, I don't get it. I really enjoy trying new foods and drinks, the weirder the better. So it sucks that I can't sample all of these craft brews. And I live in a place (Tallahassee) that has like 6 local breweries. And I'm not even opposed to bitterness, I drink coffee without sugar, unsweet tea, all kinds of crazy kombuchas. I can get stuff like Natty Light down, Blue Moon is okay, but hand me say...a Yuengling and I can literally barely swallow it. This is my life.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby bucfanclw » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:29 pm

Wife and I had a couple bottles of Aardwolf Bourbon Barrel Aged +5 Charisma. It's a Belgian dark strong that tastes stronger than it's rated. Nice bourbon smokey finish and not overly sweet like a lot of Belgian strongs are. Good stuff.
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Re: All Things Beer

Postby uscbucsfan » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:46 pm

If you like Sours, Nectarine Cobbler by Almanac is fantastic. Too often I update my beers in the Friday what are you drinking thread.

I love love love Praries Bomb, their Christmas Bomb is my favorite (not a huge Pirate Bomb fan), but the deconstructed Bombs aren't that good. It's the blend of chili, chocolate, coffee, and vanilla that makes the bomb great.

If you like Gose's (I love them) there's a little brewery out of SC called Carolina Baurhaus, they have a killer jalapeno Gose called Wallhallapeno. We bought all the bottles out around here. After 7 years of forcing my wife to try beer, she finally likes sours. She LOVES D9's Systema Naturae series. If you aren't familiar, 2-3 times a year they make a new sour series with 2 different main ingredients. The most recent is Maple and Spruce. It's pretty good. Their 'Defying Gravity' series is really really good high abv sours. You don't get that rubbing alcohol after taste that most often comes with high abv beers (like Dragons Milk). Their Dark Side of the Moon version was my favorite.
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