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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:43 pm

If he ain't from Florida State, Ima tweet about how mad I am!
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby theBKwhopper » Tue May 01, 2018 1:05 am

Mountaineer Buc wrote:If he ain't from Florida State, Ima tweet about how mad I am!

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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby terrytate » Tue May 01, 2018 11:58 am

MJW wrote:
Super K wrote:MJW, I know this causes many of you heartburn because we've essentially tried to run the same personnel scheme upfront for 20+ years now (outside of the Bates debacle)...

But imagine a 4-3 where instead of having a knifing 3 tech, our 3 tech was more powerful/big than quick/fast...

To kind of pull from TD a bit, imagine Allen or StevieT at NT with Vea at the 3...

THAT'S our future...


You could be right. Though I wouldn't simply declare that this is the plan in place because of the Vea pick. I think if we're in a position to draft a Sapp/McCoy/Aaron Donald/John Randle type like Ed Oliver, Christian Wilkins (a McCoy clone), etc, we will.

It's less being a Bucs fan and more being a football fan, but if you're running a 4-3, I think you need a guy who can provide an interior rush.



I tend to agree, but every DT that has been brought in has been in more of the mauler mold more than the McCoy sackmaster mold. That's the way Mike Smith worked in Jax too, he had two physical DTs that didnt get a lot of sacks but caused disruption.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Phantom Phenom » Sun May 13, 2018 7:24 am

Greg Little OL from University of Mississippi


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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Konatown » Mon May 14, 2018 11:18 am

Projecting some needs for next year, OL (RG or RT depending if Cappa works out), CB (again if our young CBS pan out), SS, DL. Possibly MLB if we let Kwon walk.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Hatter » Tue May 15, 2018 5:10 am

Konatown wrote:Projecting some needs for next year, OL (RG or RT depending if Cappa works out), CB (again if our young CBS pan out), SS, DL. Possibly MLB if we let Kwon walk.

Beckwith will own that spot sooner or later.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Konatown » Tue May 15, 2018 6:42 am

Hatter wrote:
Konatown wrote:Projecting some needs for next year, OL (RG or RT depending if Cappa works out), CB (again if our young CBS pan out), SS, DL. Possibly MLB if we let Kwon walk.

Beckwith will own that spot sooner or later.


One would think, if Kwon walks. But I think we get creative and find a way to keep him. He’s a captain/pro bowler (even though it may not be warranted IMO).

If we do let him walk, it could be interesting because Beckwith is a thumper at MLB, maybe they want the athletic type ala Rashaan Evans?

But I’m hoping we go OL/DL heavy again next year early in the draft. Shore up Dot or Sweezy’s replacement or get a young edge to groom behind JPP or Curry.

Is it August yet?
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby MJW » Fri May 18, 2018 1:45 am

Where the 53 is at on paper, it's fair to say that the way the staff feels about the 2018 draft class in a year will determine the 2019 draft class. The only position where there isn't someone that feels like exciting young talent on some level (again, on paper) is right tackle. And hey, maybe OBP likes Benenoch as that guy. But Watson, Whitehead, Jones, Igwebuike, Stewart, Davis, Cappa - they'll determine what feels like a huge need next April. Watson and Whitehead especially. Jones and Cappa will get another year to show their stuff as Day Two picks. But if OBP doesn't feel good about Watson or Whitehead/Igwebuike going foward, those positions will be targeted again.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Doctor » Mon May 21, 2018 9:02 am

Super K wrote:
Nano wrote:...I'm seriously hoping we're not drafting either of those guys...


...Cause they're both projected top 5 picks at this point. Especially Oliver, who most say will be the first defensive player off the board and could go as high as 2nd overall.



Agreed...

I'll throw my hat in the ring with:

Zach Allen DE Boston College
6'5" 285lbs


If he continues to improve, I think he'll end up being one of those later 1st/early 2nd DE picks...

And his size fits what we seem to be looking to do with our DL/DE group...

The days of us trotting out 245lb-255lb rushers, from the DE spot, are over...

Side note, ya better produce this year Spence...just sayin..


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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Phantom Phenom » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:43 pm

QB-Will Grier from West Virginia University
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:43 pm

Phantom Phenom wrote:QB-Will Grier from West Virginia University

And grab his favorite target, David Sills in the 2nd.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby MJW » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:26 pm

Phantom Phenom wrote:QB-Will Grier from West Virginia University


I've mentioned this elsewhere, but I really question his deep arm. He has to get a ton of torque to put the ball in the air deep. Usually when he does, there's more air then you'd like, and there's often a wobble. There are a lot of throws I've watched that most QBs would snap off with arm strength, but he has to load up like an outfielder trying to throw a runner out at home. His receivers are usually open enough that it doesn't matter at this level.

Best and most generous comp I see is Jeff Garcia. I don't think the post-season will do him any favors.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:34 pm

MJW wrote:
Phantom Phenom wrote:QB-Will Grier from West Virginia University


I've mentioned this elsewhere, but I really question his deep arm. He has to get a ton of torque to put the ball in the air deep. Usually when he does, there's more air then you'd like, and there's often a wobble. There are a lot of throws I've watched that most QBs would snap off with arm strength, but he has to load up like an outfielder trying to throw a runner out at home. His receivers are usually open enough that it doesn't matter at this level.

Best and most generous comp I see is Jeff Garcia. I don't think the post-season will do him any favors.

I'll look for that because that would be fair criticism. But I can't say at this point whether your take is right or wrong.

We should see feet planted, hip and body twist with the ball up and eyes on target.

Flip side is Bryce Petty came out of Baylor with excellent torque, power and good accuracy and he hasn't done **** in the NFL.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Super K » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:43 pm

I agree that we should draft a QB next year, but it should/will be a developmental type guy....NOT a top of the draft type guy...

I've read a bunch on here and other sites and watched a good amount of tape... specifically for/on guys that would be more middle tier...

Justice Hansen (Arkansas State) is probably the kid I like the most (right now)...

Decent size, strong arm, likes to go deep and athletic enough to run a bit...

Much better with his accuracy in his Jr year (2017)....

Shout out to Tre Sikkema for pointing me in his direction...
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