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Postby Nano » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:09 pm

It's never too early to start :P


We were a little off the mark last year with where we were picking...but some of the prospects mentioned we favored here throughout the year.


The only things we really know about the 2019 draft at this point...the QB class kind of sucks compared to this year(Your 3 headlines atm are Drew Lock from Missouri, Clayton Thorson from Northwestern, and Shea Patterson from Michigan). Dline groups are really excellent at the top(headlined by Ed Oliver from Houston and the Clemson trio)...potentially a good draft for the trenches overall.

With the 19th overall pick, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select...Austin Bryant, DE, Clemson
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby theBKwhopper » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:15 pm

Trenches!!!!
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Cheb » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:26 pm

I was just about to start a thread with this exact same title.

It's never too early to start.

I'll get a prospect for ya soon.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Cheb » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:53 pm

The Dream: Ed Oliver, DT, Houston
The Homer: Rashan Gary, DL, Michigan
The Reality: Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss

In his current 2019 mock draft, Walterfootball has the Bucs picking 32. First time I've seen a mock do that in about fifteen years. Not that it means anything, just saying.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby theBKwhopper » Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:00 am

Cheb wrote:The Dream: Ed Oliver, DT, Houston
The Homer: Rashan Gary, DL, Michigan
The Reality: Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss

In his current 2019 mock draft, Walterfootball has the Bucs picking 32. First time I've seen a mock do that in about fifteen years. Not that it means anything, just saying.

Foreshadowing ;)
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby real bucs fan » Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:36 am

It's interesting, but for the first time I can ever remember there isn't an obvious hole on this roster that will need to be addressed next offseason....
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Bootz2004 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:26 am

Obvious ones for me are DE and safety. Dark horses could be LT, G or WR.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby theBKwhopper » Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:46 am

Yeah I was really wanting another developmental DE in the draft. Maybe one of the UDFAs can develop into a good depth player.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby sonofg » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:39 am

Bootz2004 wrote:Obvious ones for me are DE and safety. Dark horses could be LT, G or WR.


Absolutely agree on a young DE. Even if the new FA additions pan out, it would be nice with a guy in the pipeline for when they fall off (plus good DEs are always needed).

I'll get **** for this, but I could see top 10 pick: QB
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Jason Bourne » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:04 am

Guard and RT will be a priority , Dotson doesn’t have long left in this league imo and Not sure if Capp will make it
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Rocker » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:53 am

RT, DT (specifically 3T to groom), WR?, potentially LT if Smith plays poorly.

It’s encouraging that I had to think on this. **** on the FO all you want, I for one think they’ve done a good job of setting us up for success from a roster standpoint.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby MJW » Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:02 am

This upcoming draft looks like a beast on the defensive line. Nick Bosa, Raekwon Davis, Ed Oliver, Clellin Ferrell and Christian Wilkins and Dexter Lawrence and Austin Bryant, Rashan Gary...some others I'm forgetting.

It would be a good draft to upgrade from Vinny Curry and/or move on from the Noah Spence experiment if need be, or to find McCoy's heir apparent.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Super K » Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:06 am

Don't think you guys are getting it...

We drafted Gmacs replacement THIS year in the first round...

Whether you want to believe it or not, doesn't make it any less true..
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Konatown » Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:44 am

With the 21st pick in the 2019 draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select David Edwards OT Wisconsin.

Could easily see another DB or DL pick to groom behind our current line but with Dotson retiring we land a stud RT with our up and coming line of Smith-Marpet-Jensen-Cappa.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby real bucs fan » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:40 am

Ya I think I'd be in favour of just hammering the DL. We are set there for the time being, but we could definitely get younger.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby mdb1958 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:05 am

real bucs fan wrote:Ya I think I'd be in favour of just hammering the DL. We are set there for the time being, but we could definitely get younger.



Can I borrow your crystal ball, I want to have a greater football mind look thru it.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby mdb1958 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:08 am

MJW wrote:This upcoming draft looks like a beast on the defensive line. Nick Bosa, Raekwon Davis, Ed Oliver, Clellin Ferrell and Christian Wilkins and Dexter Lawrence and Austin Bryant, Rashan Gary...some others I'm forgetting.

It would be a good draft to upgrade from Vinny Curry and/or move on from the Noah Spence experiment if need be, or to find McCoy's heir apparent.


By that time Nathan Shepherd and PJ Hall will be household names.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby PrimeMinister » Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:11 am

Super K wrote:Don't think you guys are getting it...

We drafted Gmacs replacement THIS year in the first round...

Whether you want to believe it or not, doesn't make it any less true..


Vea and McCoy are similar in one way: they both play on the DL. Vea isn’t McCoy’s replacement.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby PrimeMinister » Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:14 am

Bucs will draft DE.

Ed Oliver or Nick Bosa in the 1st.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Nano » Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:48 am

PrimeMinister wrote:Bucs will draft DE.

Ed Oliver or Nick Bosa in the 1st.

...I'm seriously hoping we're not drafting either of those guys...


...Cause they're both projected top 5 picks at this point. Especially Oliver, who most say will be the first defensive player off the board and could go as high as 2nd overall.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Super K » Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:09 pm

PrimeMinister wrote:
Super K wrote:Don't think you guys are getting it...

We drafted Gmacs replacement THIS year in the first round...

Whether you want to believe it or not, doesn't make it any less true..


Vea and McCoy are similar in one way: they both play on the DL. Vea isn’t McCoy’s replacement.


I disagree...Greg Auman, PR, JBF all have articles that:

#1. Hint at it being true

#2. Talk about Vea's versatility to play in a 4-3, 3-4, at the 1,3 and 5 tech spots...

Now, I didn't mention the articles because I take them as Gospel, but to show that I'm not down in my basement smearing myself with peanut butter thinking up crazy ass ideas....

We didn't draft a space eating NT at #12....

IF our regime doesnt change/get canned, I firmly believe that Vea is the DL piece we will be built around in the near future...
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Super K » Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:16 pm

Nano wrote:
PrimeMinister wrote:Bucs will draft DE.

Ed Oliver or Nick Bosa in the 1st.

...I'm seriously hoping we're not drafting either of those guys...


...Cause they're both projected top 5 picks at this point. Especially Oliver, who most say will be the first defensive player off the board and could go as high as 2nd overall.



Agreed...

I'll throw my hat in the ring with:

Zach Allen DE Boston College
6'5" 285lbs


If he continues to improve, I think he'll end up being one of those later 1st/early 2nd DE picks...

And his size fits what we seem to be looking to do with our DL/DE group...

The days of us trotting out 245lb-255lb rushers, from the DE spot, are over...

Side note, ya better produce this year Spence...just sayin..
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby RobR » Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:23 pm

OT is the favourite at the moment for me, but we might still need an outside CB.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby terrytate » Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:30 pm

MJW wrote:This upcoming draft looks like a beast on the defensive line. Nick Bosa, Raekwon Davis, Ed Oliver, Clellin Ferrell and Christian Wilkins and Dexter Lawrence and Austin Bryant, Rashan Gary...some others I'm forgetting.

It would be a good draft to upgrade from Vinny Curry and/or move on from the Noah Spence experiment if need be, or to find McCoy's heir apparent.



I agree with your general line of thinking. Our DL is well stocked for the short term but is largely composed of older vets. Now that we have something in the cupboard, it would be foolish to let it get so low again. At the same time, the same argument can be made for the OL. We don't have a ton of depth, Dotson is getting older, Sweezy can't stay on the field, D Smith has been passable at best and we don't know for certain how well Ryan Jenson or Alex Kappa will look in a Bucs uniform. Every argument of need made for the DL can be made for the OL and it is objectively the weaker unit of the two already.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby mdb1958 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:32 pm

Chucky got his Aaron Donald.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby MJW » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:55 pm

Super K wrote:
PrimeMinister wrote:
Vea and McCoy are similar in one way: they both play on the DL. Vea isn’t McCoy’s replacement.


I disagree...Greg Auman, PR, JBF all have articles that:

#1. Hint at it being true

#2. Talk about Vea's versatility to play in a 4-3, 3-4, at the 1,3 and 5 tech spots...

Now, I didn't mention the articles because I take them as Gospel, but to show that I'm not down in my basement smearing myself with peanut butter thinking up crazy ass ideas....

We didn't draft a space eating NT at #12....

IF our regime doesnt change/get canned, I firmly believe that Vea is the DL piece we will be built around in the near future...


Are we talking about his importance, or his role? We drafted him at #12 because we believe he's a centerpiece type talent; nobody is disputing that. But by "McCoy's replacement" I meant "our next knifing three tech" type.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby Super K » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:17 pm

MJW, I know this causes many of you heartburn because we've essentially tried to run the same personnel scheme upfront for 20+ years now (outside of the Bates debacle)...

But imagine a 4-3 where instead of having a knifing 3 tech, our 3 tech was more powerful/big than quick/fast...

To kind of pull from TD a bit, imagine Allen or StevieT at NT with Vea at the 3...

THAT'S our future...
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby terrytate » Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:48 pm

MJW wrote:
Super K wrote:
I disagree...Greg Auman, PR, JBF all have articles that:

#1. Hint at it being true

#2. Talk about Vea's versatility to play in a 4-3, 3-4, at the 1,3 and 5 tech spots...

Now, I didn't mention the articles because I take them as Gospel, but to show that I'm not down in my basement smearing myself with peanut butter thinking up crazy ass ideas....

We didn't draft a space eating NT at #12....

IF our regime doesnt change/get canned, I firmly believe that Vea is the DL piece we will be built around in the near future...


Are we talking about his importance, or his role? We drafted him at #12 because we believe he's a centerpiece type talent; nobody is disputing that. But by "McCoy's replacement" I meant "our next knifing three tech" type.



This assumes they are even looking for a "knifing three tech type". The last time Mike Smith was a DC, he ran a defense that featured two badass defensive tackles but neither was a truly elite pass rusher. They could get sacks but they were more disruptive than actual threats to get the sack themselves.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby mdb1958 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:59 am

Super K wrote:MJW, I know this causes many of you heartburn because we've essentially tried to run the same personnel scheme upfront for 20+ years now (outside of the Bates debacle)...

But imagine a 4-3 where instead of having a knifing 3 tech, our 3 tech was more powerful/big than quick/fast...

To kind of pull from TD a bit, imagine Allen or StevieT at NT with Vea at the 3...

THAT'S our future...


I understand what your saying but there isnt a great need to put it out there the way you are doing. I think his end comes when another DT gets picked to add to the equation. Who knows, that could be a couple years from now - what we got now could look good this year.

Vea brings power and versatility, its not where you plug him its the fact that you can put him in different spots. Vea can only play one spot at a time so its how the whole DL group turns out is what really matters.

I look forward to the change and the difference it makes.
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Re: In the 2019 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select..

Postby MJW » Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:31 am

Super K wrote:MJW, I know this causes many of you heartburn because we've essentially tried to run the same personnel scheme upfront for 20+ years now (outside of the Bates debacle)...

But imagine a 4-3 where instead of having a knifing 3 tech, our 3 tech was more powerful/big than quick/fast...

To kind of pull from TD a bit, imagine Allen or StevieT at NT with Vea at the 3...

THAT'S our future...


You could be right. Though I wouldn't simply declare that this is the plan in place because of the Vea pick. I think if we're in a position to draft a Sapp/McCoy/Aaron Donald/John Randle type like Ed Oliver, Christian Wilkins (a McCoy clone), etc, we will.

It's less being a Bucs fan and more being a football fan, but if you're running a 4-3, I think you need a guy who can provide an interior rush.
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