Miller4Prez64 wrote:All this Derwin talk could be a smokescreen like all the Manziel to Tampa hype from 2014, but I seriously think James is a better fit for our defense than Minkah. If one of Chubb, Barkley or Nelson is there then this could change but with how things look, I think it's likely Derwin James is a Buc Thursday night.
uscbucsfan wrote:Miller4Prez64 wrote:All this Derwin talk could be a smokescreen like all the Manziel to Tampa hype from 2014, but I seriously think James is a better fit for our defense than Minkah. If one of Chubb, Barkley or Nelson is there then this could change but with how things look, I think it's likely Derwin James is a Buc Thursday night.
I'll say it one more time. I think Minkah is much MUCH better overall than James and therefore is a better fit for our defense. He's on another planet in coverage, he's better at reading/recognizing plays, he has better form on his tackling, he's more versatile, he's better in every facet outside of size/speed combo, and his final year in college he tried 100% of the time (James did not). I understand you can't teach size/speed/athleticism, but the play on the field is more important and Minkah is still really gifted.
Miller4Prez64 wrote:All this Derwin talk could be a smokescreen like all the Manziel to Tampa hype from 2014, but I seriously think James is a better fit for our defense than Minkah. If one of Chubb, Barkley or Nelson is there then this could change but with how things look, I think it's likely Derwin James is a Buc Thursday night.
Naismith wrote:Wow, hadn't heard that. Do you have a link anywhere?
uscbucsfan wrote:Mcshay said that he's heard that we would take James even if Chubb, Barkley, and Nelson were available.
Cheb wrote:uscbucsfan wrote:Mcshay said that he's heard that we would take James even if Chubb, Barkley, and Nelson were available.
Brazen331 wrote:I’m thinking it’s James unless Barkley falls. The fact that I can’t find a visit with a Barkley makes me think the Bucs are hoping he falls and are feigning interest—no one is going to trade up in front of Tampa if they think they are taking James.
My feeling right now is that Nelson will be on the board and we will select James instead because Barkley will be gone.
real bucs fan wrote:I can certainly see the upside in James, and he's the definition of plug and play.
real bucs fan wrote:I can certainly see the upside in James, and he's the definition of plug and play.
uscbucsfan wrote:real bucs fan wrote:I can certainly see the upside in James, and he's the definition of plug and play.
I don't see how James is more plug and play than any of the top prospects.
theBKwhopper wrote:real bucs fan wrote:I can certainly see the upside in James, and he's the definition of plug and play.
Exactly what Licht is looking for
MJW wrote:theBKwhopper wrote:Exactly what Licht is looking for
Problematic if true.
The point isn't finding the guy who will help most week one.
The point is finding the guy who'll help most over the years to come.
real bucs fan wrote:MJW wrote:
Problematic if true.
The point isn't finding the guy who will help most week one.
The point is finding the guy who'll help most over the years to come.
James could be both, the guy is a hell of a prospect.
My issue with it would mostly be from a resource allocation standpoint, but from a pure talent standpoint, James is well worth the 7th pick.
theBKwhopper wrote:real bucs fan wrote:
James could be both, the guy is a hell of a prospect.
My issue with it would mostly be from a resource allocation standpoint, but from a pure talent standpoint, James is well worth the 7th pick.
Very true. But, Licht doesn't know if he has "years to come."
MJW wrote:theBKwhopper wrote:Very true. But, Licht doesn't know if he has "years to come."
Which is exactly why he should have been fired. Because he knows he's on the hot seat and he's no longer in a position to do what's best for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers going forward. He's going to do what's best for 2018, just like anyone would in his position.
Super K wrote:Mdb, what the **** are you gonna do with all those picks?...I don't understand the infatuation with acquiring an arsenal of draft picks instead of just staying where we are and selecting the best player on our board...
Only 1 team has made any noise playing the whole "trade back and get more picks game" and that's BB and New England...yet it seems like a lifetime ago since it even paid off for them...
mdb1958 wrote:Super K wrote:Mdb, what the **** are you gonna do with all those picks?...I don't understand the infatuation with acquiring an arsenal of draft picks instead of just staying where we are and selecting the best player on our board...
Only 1 team has made any noise playing the whole "trade back and get more picks game" and that's BB and New England...yet it seems like a lifetime ago since it even paid off for them...
Improve the roster! Use them, roll them over to next year. I have already said I'm not against red shirting a guy with the mysterious hammy while he gets bigger, stronger, so the next year he can kill off a non cost effective contract.
I'm not no expert on these o-linemen, bit didnt we all feel like it could be improved. Bigly!
Improving the trenches was what everybody thought we needed, and quite frankly I'm ashamed at how everybody ran away from it once the pre-draft process started. What if giving up that one guard got you 2 starting offensive tackles?
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