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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby Doctor » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:59 am

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MJW wrote:I'm seriously wondering at this point if Lamar Jackson might be a trade-up possibility for some team, btw. It sounds vaguely nuts now, but so did two teams giving up 1st rounders for Mahomes and Watson this time last year.

I'm not a Jackson fan. To me he's the biggest project 1st rounder in the draft. But if a team like Buffalo or Miami misses out on "The Big Four," I could see it playing out.


Yeah the quarterbacks control all of this.

I like Lamar Jackson. IMO, all of these QBs could really use a year on the bench but the truth is that doesn't happen. I think Lamar could be the best in this class if he does get a year on the bench. You bet your ass teams like the Saints and Steelers are hoping he falls so they can groom him to take over.


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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby DreadNaught » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:25 am

I think Lamar Jackson will go top 20, some team will move up for him. The upside is just incredible imo. People try to compare him to Mike Vick, but Jackson is light years ahead of where Mike Vick was as a passer. In fact you can combine BOTH of Vicks seasons at Virginia Tech (22 games) and his passing and rushing totals in those 22 games are still less that either of the past two single seasons for Jackson.

I also think Mason Rudolph will go no later than 23rd. That kid checks a ton of boxes teams like when it comes to QBs in terms of accuracy, efficiency, experience, success, and leadership. Plus he has prototype size.
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby real bucs fan » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:04 am

So NewEra is putting a team specific motto on the inside brim of each teams draft hat. Each player we draft will have this motto on their hat when they are drafted.

The Bucs motto?

"Raise the Red Flags".

I wish I was joking...
https://twitter.com/gregauman/status/983810660286033921
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby Teitan » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:06 am

real bucs fan wrote:So NewEra is putting a team specific motto on the inside brim of each teams draft hat. Each player we draft will have this motto on their hat when they are drafted.

The Bucs motto?

"Raise the Red Flags".

I wish I was joking...


I saw the Bucs and Saints hats. They are hideous.
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby real bucs fan » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:09 am

Do we really want our draft picks raising the red flags?
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:15 am

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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby real bucs fan » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:18 am

Drafting players with red flags confirmed.
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby Cheb » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:48 am

real bucs fan wrote:Drafting players with red flags confirmed.


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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby DreadNaught » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:54 am

real bucs fan wrote:Drafting players with red flags confirmed.


Arden Key no matter what!!
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby mdb1958 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:14 pm

Do you see a huge gap between the 2nd rounders and the 3rd rounders?
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:45 pm

mdb1958 wrote:Do you see a huge gap between the 2nd rounders and the 3rd rounders?

No. they take those guys the same day so the difference between the 2nd and 3rd round is little more than a commercial break.
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby Cheb » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:56 pm

mdb1958 wrote:Do you see a huge gap between the 2nd rounders and the 3rd rounders?


It's generally about a round's difference.
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby Bootz2004 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:47 pm

mdb1958 wrote:Do you see a huge gap between the 2nd rounders and the 3rd rounders?


As far as what exactly? You're obviously going to have 3rd rounders who pan out better than some 2nd rounders and vice versa.
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby MJW » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:28 pm

Doctor wrote:
mdb1958 wrote:
Yeah the quarterbacks control all of this.

I like Lamar Jackson. IMO, all of these QBs could really use a year on the bench but the truth is that doesn't happen. I think Lamar could be the best in this class if he does get a year on the bench. You bet your ass teams like the Saints and Steelers are hoping he falls so they can groom him to take over.


Yeah, his talent his apparent. But I just think he's a huge project. His feet are bad and his throwing motion is high-schoolish. That said, I could see a QB Guru type salivating over his natural talent and pulling the trigger.

The more I think about it, the more likely it seems that somebody will trade up in the 1st round for him. You're going to have the Bills, Dolphins, Patriots, Cardinals, and others in striking distance to move up for him.
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby mdb1958 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:57 am

Next to the last pick ----------------------------- Wow they love us!


255 7-37 Buccaneers
Buccaneers

Compensatory pick awarded to Buccaneers for loss of free agents Mike Glennon, Bradley McDougald, Russell Shepard, Akeem Spence
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby real bucs fan » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:13 am

Ya I think Jackson is a nice target in the mid late first for all the teams that are targeting a QB of the future for a year or 2 down the line. Perhaps we see it play out similarly to Mahomes last year where a team moved up and took him alot higher than folks thought.
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby Hatter » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:56 am

mdb1958 wrote:Next to the last pick ----------------------------- Wow they love us!


255 7-37 Buccaneers
Buccaneers

Compensatory pick awarded to Buccaneers for loss of free agents Mike Glennon, Bradley McDougald, Russell Shepard, Akeem Spence


This pick has been out for a very long time, you just now hearing about this?
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby Naismith » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:04 am

The Bradley McDougald pick. Gonna turn it into a HOF'er!
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby mdb1958 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:23 am

Hatter wrote:
mdb1958 wrote:Next to the last pick ----------------------------- Wow they love us!


255 7-37 Buccaneers
Buccaneers

Compensatory pick awarded to Buccaneers for loss of free agents Mike Glennon, Bradley McDougald, Russell Shepard, Akeem Spence


This pick has been out for a very long time, you just now hearing about this?


I didnt read how many players were for that wonderful pick. Jerry's Dallas would have gotten a 3rd rounder for each one of them...
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby Alpha » Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:31 am

MJW wrote:
Doctor wrote:I like Lamar Jackson. IMO, all of these QBs could really use a year on the bench but the truth is that doesn't happen. I think Lamar could be the best in this class if he does get a year on the bench. You bet your ass teams like the Saints and Steelers are hoping he falls so they can groom him to take over.


Yeah, his talent his apparent. But I just think he's a huge project. His feet are bad and his throwing motion is high-schoolish. That said, I could see a QB Guru type salivating over his natural talent and pulling the trigger.

The more I think about it, the more likely it seems that somebody will trade up in the 1st round for him. You're going to have the Bills, Dolphins, Patriots, Cardinals, and others in striking distance to move up for him.


He has New England written all over him.

He just does.
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby Hatter » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:09 am

I don't think Belechick would be so obvious if he was enamored with him, he'll act like he wants Jackson then swoop in and take Mayfield.
Bill loves accuracy.
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby MJW » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:23 am

This is going to be a really interesting draft. I know you can find interesting things about every draft (except 2013, which was an abomination) but with these 4...5...6? quarterbacks, and "royalty" franchises like the Giants and Patriots needing one...this will be one of those drafts we talk about for many years to come.
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby mdb1958 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:29 am

Hatter wrote:I don't think Belechick would be so obvious if he was enamored with him, he'll act like he wants Jackson then swoop in and take Mayfield.
Bill loves accuracy.



I'll go with Kyle Lauletta
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby BucJordan » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:59 am

mdb1958 wrote:
Hatter wrote:
This pick has been out for a very long time, you just now hearing about this?


I didnt read how many players were for that wonderful pick. Jerry's Dallas would have gotten a 3rd rounder for each one of them...


I'm probably wasting my breath but signing DeSean Jackson and Chris Baker offset most of that, which is why we only got a 7th. If it wasn't for those signings we probably would have gotten a 3rd rounder for Glennon's big contract.
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby mdb1958 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:13 am

BucJordan wrote:
mdb1958 wrote:
I didnt read how many players were for that wonderful pick. Jerry's Dallas would have gotten a 3rd rounder for each one of them...


I'm probably wasting my breath but signing DeSean Jackson and Chris Baker offset most of that, which is why we only got a 7th. If it wasn't for those signings we probably would have gotten a 3rd rounder for Glennon's big contract.


Your not wasting your breathe but I do wonder if you are insinuating Dallas doesnt put the players back on their roster also, and prolly got better production out of them too.
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby Naismith » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:28 am

BucJordan wrote:
mdb1958 wrote:
I didnt read how many players were for that wonderful pick. Jerry's Dallas would have gotten a 3rd rounder for each one of them...


I'm probably wasting my breath but signing DeSean Jackson and Chris Baker offset most of that, which is why we only got a 7th. If it wasn't for those signings we probably would have gotten a 3rd rounder for Glennon's big contract.


It was known last year that the Bucs were likely only getting a seventh rounder based on the compensation formula.

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Naismith wrote:McDougald to Seahawks on a one year deal for $2m. With four FA losses and three FA additions, as of right now, the Bucs would likely receive one 7th round comp pick.
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby BucJordan » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:37 am

mdb1958 wrote:
BucJordan wrote:
I'm probably wasting my breath but signing DeSean Jackson and Chris Baker offset most of that, which is why we only got a 7th. If it wasn't for those signings we probably would have gotten a 3rd rounder for Glennon's big contract.


Your not wasting your breathe but I do wonder if you are insinuating Dallas doesnt put the players back on their roster also, and prolly got better production out of them too.


They didn't sign an FA for more than $4m APY last offseason. They lost 5 FAs that signed for $5m+ APY, the top one being Ronald Leary at $9m APY. This isn't difficult. We aren't being shafted, we just signed expensive FAs that didn't work out very well, and nobody wanted our guys enough to pay for them.
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby Bootz2004 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:31 pm

I'm back to where I started. I think and hope Minkah Fitzpatrick will be the pick for us.
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby theBKwhopper » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:42 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:I'm back to where I started. I think and hope Minkah Fitzpatrick will be the pick for us.

If OneBuc feels he can be a great corner, pull the trigger.
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Re: The real 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneer Draft discussion

Postby Bootz2004 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:46 pm

theBKwhopper wrote:
Bootz2004 wrote:I'm back to where I started. I think and hope Minkah Fitzpatrick will be the pick for us.

If OneBuc feels he can be a great corner, pull the trigger.


I don't necessarily think he has to be a corner full time. He can be a great weapon all over the field. Corner, box safety, high safety, nickel, LB. He can do it all. We haven't had that kind of versatility in a long time.
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