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Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:36 pm
by mdb1958
Got one.

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:37 pm
by mdb1958
Bootz2004 wrote:
mdb1958 wrote:
I think


You shouldn't. Ever, *****.



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Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:32 pm
by Doctor
Unless Barkley somehow makes it to us at 7, which is unlikely, and we draft him.... I have to think we're going RB in round 2. This class is just nasty and the talent is superb. Fitz, Nelson, or Chubb and Guice or Michels and I'll walk away super happy.

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:07 pm
by mdb1958
Doctor wrote:Unless Barkley somehow makes it to us at 7, which is unlikely, and we draft him.... I have to think we're going RB in round 2. This class is just nasty and the talent is superb. Fitz, Nelson, or Chubb and Guice or Michels and I'll walk away super happy.



So whoever picks them will have a winning record and they will all get a thousand, or is that to high for superb?

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:17 am
by mdb1958
Scott Smith - There have been 42 running backs taken in the top 10 of the second round since the 1970 merger, and no team has done that more often than the Buccaneers and their six picks.


More than anyone else ehh. You mean all the teams successfully going to the playoffs did it less than us? How could they be so stupid?

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:25 am
by real bucs fan
Doctor wrote:Unless Barkley somehow makes it to us at 7, which is unlikely, and we draft him.... I have to think we're going RB in round 2. This class is just nasty and the talent is superb. Fitz, Nelson, or Chubb and Guice or Michels and I'll walk away super happy.

Ya I think rd2 is the sweet spot. There's a small chance Guice will be there, but at the least one of Michel or Ronald Jones will. Not the biggest Ronald Jones fan, so I hope it's Michel, but after Jones it starts to get iffy. Can't gamble on Penny making it to our 3rd, and I don't really like anyone in this class beyond that. I think Jones in the least could be a nice complement to Barber. He can bring big play ability and speed to our backfield, while Barber can do the heavy lifting.

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:50 pm
by Super K
mdb1958 wrote:
Scott Smith - There have been 42 running backs taken in the top 10 of the second round since the 1970 merger, and no team has done that more often than the Buccaneers and their six picks.


More than anyone else ehh. You mean all the teams successfully going to the playoffs did it less than us? How could they be so stupid?


Lol...


Good call Mdb..

And I agree with you, RB can wait...

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:03 pm
by mdb1958
Super K wrote:
mdb1958 wrote:
More than anyone else ehh. You mean all the teams successfully going to the playoffs did it less than us? How could they be so stupid?


Lol...


Good call Mdb..

And I agree with you, RB can wait...


There is a history of wanting and agreeing with who the team picks, but it has a very short shelf life, then it becomes what the hell was the team thinking...

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:06 pm
by Doctor
mdb1958 wrote:
Doctor wrote:Unless Barkley somehow makes it to us at 7, which is unlikely, and we draft him.... I have to think we're going RB in round 2. This class is just nasty and the talent is superb. Fitz, Nelson, or Chubb and Guice or Michels and I'll walk away super happy.



So whoever picks them will have a winning record and they will all get a thousand, or is that to high for superb?

Well, idk about winning records. There's so many other factors that go into that. The same RB can go to the Seahawks and be a winner but also go to the Browns and be a loser. But crack 1000? I'd say yes. How many rookie RB cracked 1000 total this year? Like 4 or 5? I think this class could match that.

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:10 pm
by mdb1958
Doctor wrote:
mdb1958 wrote:

So whoever picks them will have a winning record and they will all get a thousand, or is that to high for superb?

Well, idk about winning records. There's so many other factors that go into that. The same RB can go to the Seahawks and be a winner but also go to the Browns and be a loser. But crack 1000? I'd say yes. How many rookie RB cracked 1000 total this year? Like 4 or 5? I think this class could match that.





2 - Hunt and Fournette

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:00 pm
by MJW
I think if we seriously upgrade left guard (be it Norwell, Pugh, Nelson, whoever), continue to grow Ali Marpet, and get JR Sweezy back in Seahawks form, Peyton Barber could top 1,000 yards. By Thanksgiving.

If you can run block, you can run.

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:09 pm
by Nano
MJW wrote:I think if we seriously upgrade left guard (be it Norwell, Pugh, Nelson, whoever), continue to grow Ali Marpet, and get JR Sweezy back in Seahawks form, Peyton Barber could top 1,000 yards. By Thanksgiving.

If you can run block, you can run.

I guess that's assuming that we don't give up on the running game by HT every week because Winston turned the ball over 50 times and we're down by 2 scores

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:07 am
by terrytate
Nano wrote:
MJW wrote:I think if we seriously upgrade left guard (be it Norwell, Pugh, Nelson, whoever), continue to grow Ali Marpet, and get JR Sweezy back in Seahawks form, Peyton Barber could top 1,000 yards. By Thanksgiving.

If you can run block, you can run.

I guess that's assuming that we don't give up on the running game by HT every week because Winston turned the ball over 50 times and we're down by 2 scores


Winston looks so much better when he has a running game that makes people buy his play action.

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:44 am
by mdb1958
RBF will tell you, its coming down to only 3 or 4 in the world that will be good enough to tote the rock for us this year, all the rest are inferior wanna be's...

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:47 am
by mdb1958
He will readily admit that the entire population of Canada has no one that could perform that duty.

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:18 am
by real bucs fan
If you'd prefer to gamble another season on the likes of Jeremy McNichols, by all means, preach it... I just hope Licht has another idea...

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:28 am
by Bootz2004
real bucs fan wrote:If you'd prefer to gamble another season on the likes of Jeremy McNichols, by all means, preach it... I just hope Licht has another idea...


A what round in the draft do RBs stop being "studs"?

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:36 pm
by real bucs fan
Bootz2004 wrote:
real bucs fan wrote:If you'd prefer to gamble another season on the likes of Jeremy McNichols, by all means, preach it... I just hope Licht has another idea...


A what round in the draft do RBs stop being "studs"?

In my opinion, there are 3 guys in this draft that I think could be counted on to be studs in our backfield- Barkley, Guice, and Sony Michel. Ronald Jones is also intriguing as he has some Kamara qualities. The other backs in this draft aren't upgrades on Peyton Barber IMO.

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:38 pm
by Bootz2004
real bucs fan wrote:
Bootz2004 wrote:
A what round in the draft do RBs stop being "studs"?

In my opinion, there are 3 guys in this draft that I think could be counted on to be studs in our backfield- Barkley, Guice, and Sony Michel. Ronald Jones is also intriguing as he has some Kamara qualities. The other backs in this draft aren't upgrades on Peyton Barber IMO.


LOL! Okay buddy.

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:39 am
by MJW
real bucs fan wrote:If you'd prefer to gamble another season on the likes of Jeremy McNichols, by all means, preach it... I just hope Licht has another idea...


Barber is a perfectly fine idea, if we block for him.

Also...McNichols was a huge bust, in large part because he was the rare NFL prospect who absolutely couldn't read a playbook. Using him as an example of why mid-late round running backs are a bad idea is a losing proposition. We could have taken Aaron Jones or Corey Clement with that pick also.

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:49 pm
by Mountaineer Buc
I just want to take a minute and marvel at the 233lbs Barkley reportedly weighed in at today.

If he runs 4.3 at that weight, just wow.

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:36 pm
by DreadNaught
Mountaineer Buc wrote:I just want to take a minute and marvel at the 233lbs Barkley reportedly weighed in at today.

If he runs 4.3 at that weight, just wow.


RBF is bi-posting!!!

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:38 pm
by real bucs fan
I think anything under 4.50 would be amazing.

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:51 pm
by Cheb
He runs fast in pads on the field being chased by angry defenders. Who cares how fast he is on a track in shorts?

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:14 pm
by Mountaineer Buc
Cheb wrote:He runs fast in pads on the field being chased by angry defenders. Who cares how fast he is on a track in shorts?

Its just propelling that kind of bodyweight at that kind of speed.

Dude's a freak.

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:47 pm
by mdb1958
If we let the other team score faster we can watch him play more. Jeesh!

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:56 am
by MJW
229 Pounds.
4.45 Forty.
25 Bench Press Reps.

Sorry, I was thinking about Trent Richardson. What were you guys talking about?

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:59 am
by MJW
Meanwhile, the NFL's leading rusher goes 5'10 215 and ran a 4.62 at the combine last year after a good career in the MAC.

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:32 pm
by mdb1958
Chase Edmonds, Fordham. The small-school prospects typically need a big combine effort to catapult up draft boards. Edmonds did just that. At a compact 5-foot-9 and 205 pounds, he ran 4.53 40, had a 34-inch vertical and 10-foot-2 broad jump, and dazzled with a 6.79-second time in the vital three-cone drill, the best among running backs in attendance. The shifty back with impressive acceleration helped himself a great deal today.

Re: Draft Watch: Running Backs

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:15 pm
by Cheb
Every draft year, I closely follow the walterfootball prospect visits tracker. Basically, they take all the information they hear about what team is meeting with what prospect and when, then compile it into a grand list. It's as close as we mere mortals can get to who the Bucs are actually interested in, and it's a close approximation of who they actually draft. Every year for the past four years, at least two of the guys we drafted were on that list. I can go back through my prior posts to nail who exactly they were, but suffice to say it's as close to reliable as we can get, in my opinion.

Take a guess on who the only running back on that list is. Go on, guess who it is.

You're wrong.

It's Akrum Wadley from Iowa. He's been a thorn in the Big Ten's side his whole career. He has juice for days, a jitterbug who can create yards for himself with his wiggle and burst. Yeah, he's a bit small, so yeah, he isn't going to be an everydown back, but he'd be a great member of the rotation and I'd love to see him in Tampa. On his better snaps, he looks like Le'veon Bell's kid brother.

At the combine, he ran a 4.54 40 yard dash, with 12 bench reps and a 32" vertical leap. I would have expected him to test far better than that, given his on-field abilities, and if he falls to the fourth I think he would represent great value.