Brazen331 wrote:I want no part of Chip in Gainesville.
I'm with you . .. something says no about him.
Brazen331 wrote:I want no part of Chip in Gainesville.
Alpha wrote:That's a wonderful wish list but somebody please explain to me, in a way that makes ANY realistic sense, how Taggart is leaving Oregon after ONE year or how Frost...a NEBRASKA kid with all kinds of ties to that program...are going to chose UF?
Listen UF fan...it's nice to want things.
Taggart and Frost are most likely NOT GONNA HAPPEN. No matter how hard you want them to.
So...out of the REST...who makes this an inspired hire...and if you tell me it's Mullins or Norvell, I'll laugh and say "Welcome to Middle of the Pack in the SEC East".
chip kelly isnt number #1 on my radar because i dont think he is a driven recruiter. I think to compete year in year out you have to go 100% in recruiting. Frost now leads the NCAA in scoring, appears to be a bright young mind, and appears to be a much stronger recruiter. Id be very happy with kelly. Id be elated with frost.NavyBuc wrote:My thoughts exactly with Chip Kelly. If you're Florida, how he is not #1 on your radar? The Gators are always built for defense. You put an offense on that field with the defense and you have a championship contender. Problem is they haven't been able to bring any sort of offense with speed since Meyer left. Chip Kelly has the ability to bring speed AND scoring back to Gainesville.
I'm hearing names like Dan Mullen out there and the first thing I think of is more 8-4 seasons in Gainesville. When I hear Chip Kelly, I think speed and excitement, something Florida has been lacking for some time now.
GameTime wrote:So the realistic answer is its easier to recruit talent in Florida than Oregon or Nebraska.
Crocaneers wrote:Brazen331 wrote:I want no part of Chip in Gainesville.
I'm with you . .. something says no about him.
Brazen331 wrote:Crocaneers wrote:
I'm with you . .. something says no about him.
Well, I’m a Nole so I’m thinking we don’t want him there for different reasons.
so how come oregon still doesnt recruit as the Florida schools? Even when htey had Chip Kelly, they werent recruiting as well were they? Sure, California does have a lot of recruits. But its much more difficult to pull them to oregon imo (even with the facilities). I believe it also puts much more strain on a coaches travel when seeing multiple players, but that is just a guess. Taggarts classes at oregon would not be as highly rated as taggarts classes at Florida/fsu imo - but that is just an assumption.Alpha wrote:GameTime wrote:So the realistic answer is its easier to recruit talent in Florida than Oregon or Nebraska.
There's just one, little problem with your theory.
Oregon recruits most of their players from California...which has every bit as rich a recruiting area as Florida. Watch what happens in the next year or two at Oregon. When Taggart's Cali recruits start to mature. The reason WHY Oregon pulls in so many of the good, California recruits, is because (thanks to Nike), they have (arguably) the best athletic facilities in the country. Point is...it's easier to recruit Florida than it is OREGON...but it ain't any easier than recruiting California...except perhaps, Texas.
And MJ...with all due respect to your Nebraska knowledge...you can't tell me that Nebraska is at a disadvantage (recruiting) as opposed to conference powerhouse Wisconsin. Wisconsin has a good shot at making the final 4 this year (and nearly every year). Why? Because Madison F-ing Wisconsin is soooo much nicer than Lincoln, Nebraska? Don't get me wrong...you'd never catch me dead in either place...but if Wisconsin can compete for a national title, surely Nebraska can as well.
GameTime wrote:so how come oregon still doesnt recruit as the Florida schools? Even when htey had Chip Kelly, they werent recruiting as well were they? Sure, California does have a lot of recruits. But its much more difficult to pull them to oregon imo (even with the facilities). I believe it also puts much more strain on a coaches travel when seeing multiple players, but that is just a guess. Taggarts classes at oregon would not be as highly rated as taggarts classes at Florida/fsu imo - but that is just an assumption.Alpha wrote:
There's just one, little problem with your theory.
Oregon recruits most of their players from California...which has every bit as rich a recruiting area as Florida. Watch what happens in the next year or two at Oregon. When Taggart's Cali recruits start to mature. The reason WHY Oregon pulls in so many of the good, California recruits, is because (thanks to Nike), they have (arguably) the best athletic facilities in the country. Point is...it's easier to recruit Florida than it is OREGON...but it ain't any easier than recruiting California...except perhaps, Texas.
And MJ...with all due respect to your Nebraska knowledge...you can't tell me that Nebraska is at a disadvantage (recruiting) as opposed to conference powerhouse Wisconsin. Wisconsin has a good shot at making the final 4 this year (and nearly every year). Why? Because Madison F-ing Wisconsin is soooo much nicer than Lincoln, Nebraska? Don't get me wrong...you'd never catch me dead in either place...but if Wisconsin can compete for a national title, surely Nebraska can as well.
Wisconsin didnt even have to play a ranked team this year, that might be why they are looking so good? Like you said, Wisconsin and nebraska could compete for a national title, and will on occasion. But i dont think you are the only one with the attitude that you’d much rather be somewhere else. Which makes recruiting easier for other schools.
i thought it was pretty simple. Its easier to recruit Florida when you are a coach at a major Florida school than it is to recruit California when you are located in oregon. Chip Kelly never had a top 10 class. I do agree a good recruiter will recruit well anywhere, but its similar to Sabans recruiting at MSU vs LSU and Bama. Some places are easier to recruit. Wisc is competitive every year, but they usually get knocked off when they have to face top 10 talent. Taggart will recruit fine at oregon, but i doubt he will every win or even play for a National title at oregon. I dont think he will ever have consecutive top5 recruiting classes at oregon. I think Taggart probably did a heckuva job at wku, but 4 years later Jeff brohm won 11 games there also, compared to taggarts 7 win seasons.Alpha wrote:WTF does this even mean?
This isn't even about "this year". Wisconsin is competitive EVERY year...or as much as any other team. Sure...this year's schedule helps THIS YEAR...but they'll be in contention next year as well.
The rest of your crap makes no sense. Kelly recruited pretty ****ing well at Oregon. You might have noticed they were damn good.
A good recruiter will recruit well ANYWHERE. You're a ****ing salesman. Some are better at it than others. It doesn't hurt recruiting athletes, when you bring them on campus and show them world-class facilities (like Oregon has). And California is as rich a recruiting ground as Florida. You're welcome to your wrong opinion but only time will tell. What I know is this. Taggart won at W. Kentucky (because of recruiting that fertile Kentucky hotbed of football players). He won at USF. I'm gonna roll the dice and say he'll win at Oregon as well. Despite having the "disadvantage" of having to recruit California. When he's competing for a national title in 2 years, we'll discuss it then.
Phantom Phenom wrote:http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21272643/inside-story-split-florida-gators-football-coach-jim-mcelwain
Phantom Phenom wrote:From a very reliable source. UF has reached out to representatives of Bob Stoops, Chip Kelly, and Charlie Strong to gauge interest in becoming the #Gators next head coach. These are believed to be UF's top choices.
Phantom Phenom wrote:From a very reliable source. UF has reached out to representatives of Bob Stoops, Chip Kelly, and Charlie Strong to gauge interest in becoming the #Gators next head coach. These are believed to be UF's top choices.
Crocaneers wrote:Stoops was called Monday after Mac was fired. I think they are talking to Kelly out of courtesy, but not sure Strickin wants him. I agree that Charlie won't come here. He knows where is is good, and does like the Tampa area [to the point of wife's family, etc]. He has a chance to make USF a prominent program.
i agree with this. But it seems there is a lot of buzz right now with kelly. Nothing surprises me anymore with all this, and i realize most info is wrong right now. But its building steam.Crocaneers wrote:I think they are talking to Kelly out of courtesy, but not sure Strickin wants him.
Phantom Phenom wrote:Confirmed that UF is looking at Chip Kelly as next head coach. Decision could be as soon as this week. Also heard that Florida was becoming very frustrated with Jimmy Sexton, who represents many other potential candidates. Chip is represented by David Dunn.
Crocaneers wrote:Phantom Phenom wrote:Confirmed that UF is looking at Chip Kelly as next head coach. Decision could be as soon as this week. Also heard that Florida was becoming very frustrated with Jimmy Sexton, who represents many other potential candidates. Chip is represented by David Dunn.
Just had the same conversation as well. Word is Stricklin and Kelly are talking
it appears Sexton isn't helping anyone's cause (except potentially his, which in itself turns bad). With the number of SEC teams looking for coaches, he may want to change his tune.
deltbucs wrote:This sucks. First Miami gets a competent coach and now UF is getting Kelly. Kelly with a defense and the athletes he can recruit in Florida is a scary thought.
PanteraCanes wrote:deltbucs wrote:This sucks. First Miami gets a competent coach and now UF is getting Kelly. Kelly with a defense and the athletes he can recruit in Florida is a scary thought.
It will be interesting. He hates recruiting and the state of Florida is really bad for you if you hate that. He also wants to be in charge (example his NFL stints) but currently it appears the current AD, the previous AD, and Spurrier are all in line ahead of the coach.
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