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Florida fired McElwain/ Chip Kelly to Florida?

Postby Phantom Phenom » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:28 pm

University of the Florida administrators are discussing whether they can fire coach Jim McElwain with cause, multiple sources told ESPN.

After failing to find any evidence to substantiate claims made by McElwain this week that family and players received death threats, Florida administrators have worked to see if McElwain's allegations were enough to relieve the university from paying McElwain's full buyout of $12.9 million if he were to be fired.

Sources told ESPN that they believe the university has enough cause to fire McElwain without having to pay his buyout. Sources also said that if McElwain were to be relieved of his duties, defensive coordinator Randy Shannon would be asked to be the team's interim coach.

On Monday, McElwain, told reporters unprompted during his press conference that his family and players received death threats.

"There's a lot of hate in this world, and a lot of anger," McElwain told reporters. "And yet it's freedom to show it. The hard part is obviously when the threats [are] against your own players, the death threats to your families, the ill will that's brought upon out there."


Jim McElwain could lose his job after saying his family and players have received death threats. AP
When asked to expand on his claims, McElwain wouldn't go into detail about the nature of the threats and said he wasn't planning to contact law enforcement.

"A lot of angry people," McElwain said. "In this business, we're the ones that you take the shots at. That's the way it is."

Florida officials, who were unaware of McElwain's claims until he discussed them during his press conference, later released their own statement regarding possible death threats, but added that after meeting with McElwain, he "offered no additional details."

"The University Athletic Association takes the safety of our student-athletes, coaches, staff and families very seriously,'' team spokesman Steve McClain said in the statement. "Our administration met with Coach McElwain this afternoon and he offered no additional details.''

On Wednesday, McElwain said that he was wrong to bring up the death threats that he also said "happened in the past."

"It's just something that came up and obviously was on my mind," McElwain said. "It doesn't make it right. It doesn't make it right to air that laundry."

McElwain also said that he met with athletic director Scott Stricklin and Executive Associate Athletics Director for Internal Affairs Laird Veatch and that "they were really good and supportive."

Saturday added another level to an already complicated situation when Stricklin released a statement dispelling rumors that the school was working on a buyout with McElwain.


"No one representing the University of Florida or our athletic department has had any conversations with Coach McElwain or his representatives regarding a buyout of his contract," Stricklin said in a statement. "Our focus is on this great Florida-Georgia rivalry today in Jacksonville."

McElwain, who was hired in December of 2014, entered Saturday with a 22-11 record and had won the SEC Eastern Division in back-to-back seasons, becoming the first SEC coach to ever make it to the SEC championship game in each of his first two seasons.

McElwain's His 19 wins entering the 2017 season were the second most by any SEC coach in 2015 and 2016. Those 19 wins also tied Steve Spurrier for the second-most victories by a Florida head coach through his first two seasons.

The unranked Gators (3-3, 3-2 SEC) are playing No. 3 Georgia ( 7-0, 4-0) in Jacksonville, Florida.
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby Zarniwoop » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:39 pm

If he was 7-0 this wouldn’t be a story
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby Konatown » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:08 pm

Looking for any way to can him at this point. Part of me feels that UF is being unreasonable to want to can him after winning two SEC east titles his first two years, but man, not being able to develop a QB is holding that team back big time these past few years.

Question is, who would be an upgrade for UF?
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby Native Son » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:31 pm

The New HC would have to be one that is approved by the Bull Gators... er... Alumni to be one that has TIES to FLA and can recruit like the
best version of Tony Robbins.
Spencer comes and speak hate and BS.

UF fan ........now go find your newest HC, if Not McElwain.
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby Crocaneers » Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:17 pm

If they fire him, it's three steps backwards.

He had a bad team. Couldn't field 9 to start with, didn't have a QB, and frankly UGA is just that good.

Reload, relax, and regen. The rumors of Gruden, Stoops, Kelly, or Butch Jones (wait for Tenn. To fire him) are all bad ideas.

Mac's the guy. I like him, and he needs a fair shot
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby Selmon Rules » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:26 am

I still blame Grier.... He seems to be a fair QB in WV and if he doesn't take some supplement he would have been in Florida's system for three years and would, I believe, be a good QB here.

Between that and half of the offensive starters being suspended for fraud, this season was gonna suck out loud anyway....

If they fire this coach, the days of Florida being one of those top tier coaching gigs may be over for a while
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby Phantom Phenom » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:33 pm

Florida asks Jim McElwain to accept less than $12.76M buyout
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby Konatown » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:08 pm

Phantom Phenom wrote:Florida asks Jim McElwain to accept less than $12.76M buyout

Why should he?
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby uscbucsfan » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:32 pm

Just saw on ESPN that McElwain has officially been fired. Shannahan interim HC.
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby NavyBuc » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:40 pm

The question now is who do they go after? Scott Frost or Chip Kelly. There's rumors they want Kelly, but those are just rumors.

Kelly would bring something the Gators have been lacking for a very long time now and that is an offense. He is the kind of guy the Gators need desperately right now. Bring some speed and scoring back to Gainesville. Defense will be good no matter who they bring in. I know McElwain was supposed to bring the same thing, but McElwain hadn't proved it at a big program before. Kelly has.
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby Crocaneers » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:04 pm

Other names in the list

Stoops - watch closely.
Dan Mullen - not sure how you get him out.
Charlie Strong - I think he proved he wasn't big time ready. Keep him in Tampa
Scott Frost (UCF) - can't imagine trying to get him out if Orlando
Justin Fuentes (Va Tech) - again I don't see wrassling him out of Blacksburg
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby uscbucsfan » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:21 pm

Crocaneers wrote:Other names in the list

Stoops - watch closely.
Dan Mullen - not sure how you get him out.
Charlie Strong - I think he proved he wasn't big time ready. Keep him in Tampa
Scott Frost (UCF) - can't imagine trying to get him out if Orlando
Justin Fuentes (Va Tech) - again I don't see wrassling him out of Blacksburg


I'd add Chad Morris in there. If I had to bet, I'd say Frost right now.
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby Jason Bourne » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:41 pm

I would bet on Chip Kelly
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby Phantom Phenom » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:15 pm

Nebraska- Scott Frost
Florida- Chip Kelly. Massive payday
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby Zarniwoop » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:18 pm

I like Frost.


I loved him as a player (even when he played safety for the Browns).

And the style of offense he has run as coordinator and coach is 100% opposite of what he did as a player. Talk about someone who looks forward to the future.

Nebraska should do whatever they can to get him
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Re: Florida fired McElwain

Postby Alpha » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:13 am

Frost is a Nebraska guy and they can pay him what UF would. That's a non-starter.

IF Stoops still wants a shot, he's the guy. I just think he's done.

If it's not Stoops, Kelly will be the guy by default.






A one-off...Gruden.

I don't think he's a "college" guy...but the geography and the money make sense.
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby DreadNaught » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:43 am

Crocaneers wrote:Other names in the list

Stoops - watch closely.
Dan Mullen - not sure how you get him out.
Charlie Strong - I think he proved he wasn't big time ready. Keep him in Tampa
Scott Frost (UCF) - can't imagine trying to get him out if Orlando
Justin Fuentes (Va Tech) - again I don't see wrassling him out of Blacksburg


One other name I'd like to see UF kick the tires on is Iowa State HC Matt Campbell. He doesn't have any ties to UF or the SEC for that matter, but he'll get gobbled up by one of the big money programs after the work he's done at ISU.

But I'd bet Mullen is the next HC at UF. The new UF AD came from MissST (where he hired Mullen from UF) so I could see him hiring Mullen again to bring him back.

Do not want Charlie Strong!!
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby Phantom Phenom » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:21 am

DreadNaught wrote:
Crocaneers wrote:Other names in the list

Stoops - watch closely.
Dan Mullen - not sure how you get him out.
Charlie Strong - I think he proved he wasn't big time ready. Keep him in Tampa
Scott Frost (UCF) - can't imagine trying to get him out if Orlando
Justin Fuentes (Va Tech) - again I don't see wrassling him out of Blacksburg


One other name I'd like to see UF kick the tires on is Iowa State HC Matt Campbell. He doesn't have any ties to UF or the SEC for that matter, but he'll get gobbled up by one of the big money programs after the work he's done at ISU.

But I'd bet Mullen is the next HC at UF. The new UF AD came from MissST (where he hired Mullen from UF) so I could see him hiring Mullen again to bring him back.

Do not want Charlie Strong!!



IMO, Mullen isn't that good
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby uscbucsfan » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:27 am

Phantom Phenom wrote:
DreadNaught wrote:
One other name I'd like to see UF kick the tires on is Iowa State HC Matt Campbell. He doesn't have any ties to UF or the SEC for that matter, but he'll get gobbled up by one of the big money programs after the work he's done at ISU.

But I'd bet Mullen is the next HC at UF. The new UF AD came from MissST (where he hired Mullen from UF) so I could see him hiring Mullen again to bring him back.

Do not want Charlie Strong!!



IMO, Mullen isn't that good


Same here. He gets a ton of hype because what he has done at Miss State, but he hasn't proven to be an elite coach.

Dread, Campbell has a buyout of around 10 million if I remember correctly. I think that is why most aren't mentioning him.
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Re: Florida fired McElwain

Postby PanteraCanes » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:24 am

I hope they roll Shannon into the permanent HC.
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Re: Florida fired McElwain

Postby uscbucsfan » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:40 am

PanteraCanes wrote:I hope they roll Shannon into the permanent HC.


Because you want UF to be bad?
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Re: Florida fired McElwain

Postby deltbucs » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:48 am

uscbucsfan wrote:
PanteraCanes wrote:I hope they roll Shannon into the permanent HC.


Because you want UF to be bad?

PanteraCanes

I think that's pretty obvious, being as he's been through the Randy Shannon Experience.
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Re: Florida fired McElwain

Postby uscbucsfan » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:51 am

deltbucs wrote:
uscbucsfan wrote:
Because you want UF to be bad?

PanteraCanes

I think that's pretty obvious, being as he's been through the Randy Shannon Experience.


I was fishing to see if he really thought Shannon got a raw deal and is a good coach or not.
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Re: Florida fired McElwain

Postby PanteraCanes » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:01 am

uscbucsfan wrote:
deltbucs wrote:PanteraCanes

I think that's pretty obvious, being as he's been through the Randy Shannon Experience.


I was fishing to see if he really thought Shannon got a raw deal and is a good coach or not.



If that will make them hire him full time I will say such things.
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Re: Florida fired McElwain

Postby Crocaneers » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:56 am

Well ..... maybe it's time for a change ..... #watchclosely

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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby Kress » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:22 am

Jason Bourne wrote:I would bet on Chip Kelly
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby GameTime » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:31 am

Konatown wrote:
Question is, who would be an upgrade for UF?
better question is who wouldnt be?
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby GameTime » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:34 am

Crocaneers wrote:If they fire him, it's three steps backwards.

He had a bad team. Couldn't field 9 to start with, didn't have a QB, and frankly UGA is just that good.

Reload, relax, and regen. The rumors of Gruden, Stoops, Kelly, or Butch Jones (wait for Tenn. To fire him) are all bad ideas.

Mac's the guy. I like him, and he needs a fair shot
i think UF can move forward pretty quickly. There is talent there, it just wasnt being maximized. This was his 3rd year there, if he had a bad team thats on him. He couldnt field 9 because his upperclassmen “stars” and leaders were using stolen credit cards. He didnt have a QB...in his 3rd year. I agree, no way on gruden, stoops and such are bad ideas. I could live with kelly, but id rather not.

Macs not the guy. I really though he was, but it was plain to see he isnt.
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Re: Florida fired McElwain

Postby GameTime » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:43 am

Frost - my current #1 guy. Florida connections, has ran high powered offenses, coached both sides of the ball, spent some time under great coaches, and appears to be driven and will recruit.
Kelly - i think its a pipedream, dont really like it, but the ceiling is pretty high.
Taggert - FL guy, recruits well and knows offense, has shown to be able to adapt.

Brohm/Norvell - dont know too much about them but young offensive coaches.
Campbell - future looks bright for him, just not sure he is a fit at UF. Plus that buyout.
Stoops - the guy is retired, he aint coming.
Gruden - heck no.

Mullen - obvious choice. No excitement factor though. Wouldnt be the worst thing, but wouldnt unite the fanbase. Has been pretty successful with QBs ranging from Alex Smith, Chris Leak, tebow, (Cam Newton), Prescott and now Fitzgerald has some hype. Think he probably worked with a guy at BG also that had a cup of coffee in the NFL.
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Re: Florida administrators discussing if they can fire McElw

Postby PanteraCanes » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:48 am

Selmon Rules wrote:I still blame Grier.... He seems to be a fair QB in WV and if he doesn't take some supplement he would have been in Florida's system for three years and would, I believe, be a good QB here.

Between that and half of the offensive starters being suspended for fraud, this season was gonna suck out loud anyway....

If they fire this coach, the days of Florida being one of those top tier coaching gigs may be over for a while



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As a redshirt freshman with the Gators, he went 5-0 as a starter, culminating with a dramatic comeback against Tennessee in which he threw two touchdowns in the game's final four minutes.

Two weeks later, he was summoned to coach Jim McElwain's office. Soon, Will's career at Florida would effectively be finished.

Will Muschamp had recruited Will to Florida, but Muschamp had been fired after Will's first year, and replaced with McElwain.

Unaware anything might be wrong, Will assumed McElwain just wanted to chat with his quarterback. Instead, Will was told he had tested positive for a performance-enhancing substance found in an over-the-counter supplement. The penalty of the offense carried a one-year suspension.

"I was blindsided," Will said. "I had no idea I was doing anything wrong."

When Will first showed up at Florida, he weighed 188 pounds. He wasn't crazy about the Gatorade-based protein drinks offered at the stadium, because of their sugar and carbohydrates. Knowing he'd need to gain weight to withstand the pounding of the SEC, he visited a nutrition store in Gainesville in search of protein powder. Will says he checked online to make sure what he bought wasn't banned by the NCAA, but he never double-checked with Florida's training staff.

"I'm by the book, I follow the rules, I thought I was following the rules," he said. "But I was young, I was careless with it."

McElwain told reporters that Will would be allowed to continue practicing with the team, then, according to Will, told him to take some time at home in North Carolina.

Upon returning to Gainesville, Will didn't feel welcomed.


At Florida, Grier had a 5-0 record before being suspended. Kim Klement/USA TODAY Sports
"[McElwain] didn't really invite me back to the stadium, and it felt weird the times I would go up there," Will said. "There was this idea that I knew what I was doing, which was not the case. The players would come over to my house, but it was weird to go to the stadium with the staff. The dynamic was just off."

Will even offered to play scout-team quarterback the week of the SEC championship game to help prepare Florida's defense for Alabama. He was turned down for that, too.

"He loved being a Gator. He loved the place, the school, the people, he was proud to be a Gator. He was all in," Chad said. "I didn't realize he had been ostracized. I underestimated the impact of what he was going through, and the fact he wasn't doing good. He was in a dark place."

After revealing to his dad that he'd been cut off, Will asked if he'd come with him to meet with McElwain "to figure this out." When McElwain showed up more than two hours late to their appointment, Chad knew it was a bad sign.

McElwain said Will was welcome to stay, but also suggested a fresh start elsewhere might not be a bad idea. After the meeting, Chad told his son, "I don't think he wants you.'"

McElwain later insinuated that the Griers had asked for a "guarantee" that Will would get the job back once he was eligible to return.

They vehemently contest that.

"I was expecting a 10-minute meeting: 'Hey, we care about your son, he's important to the program,'" Chad said. "Just wanted to know he was wanted there, because there was no plan. How are you going to help and develop him, even though he's going to have to sit out?

"The last thing we asked for was a guarantee."

As rocky as the first meeting with McElwain went, Will wasn't quite ready to let go.

"I wanted to stay. ... So I went back and met with him, just one-on-one," Will said. "But it felt like this staff wanted to move on, which is fine, there's no hard feelings toward that. They have their own recruits, their own guys."

Toward the end, when Will agreed to leave, McElwain printed out prepared releases for schools he could transfer to, which precluded the SEC, rival Florida State and future opponent Michigan. And, as Will put it, "left it at that."
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