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Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Zarniwoop » Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:50 pm

Just a few weeks away....we have some good non-conference matchups:



Wyoming @ Iowa
Michigan vs. Florida
Nebraska @ Oregon
Oklahoma @ Ohio State
Notre Dame @ Michigan State



It will be weird seeing Big 10 games in the first week of the season



Should be a good year...fairly balanced

I'm looking at Wisc vs. Ohio State for the championship

but wouldn't be surprised if PSU or Mich took the East (who I think have the best 2 QBs in the league).


While we might not be the strongest at the top, I do think there is good depth this year .... with the four mentioned above ... we also have Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Mich State, Northwestern...possibly all making bowls.




As a Buckeye fan, I'm excited to see the defense, particularly the front 4 and see what Mike Weber can do at RB.

I'm least confident in the WR position
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Phantom Phenom » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:07 pm

Don't sleep on Indiana. I think they're good team.

They might upset Ohio state or penn state :). Hopefully not to Michigan
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:28 pm

The conference as a whole is getting better. As with every conference in College ball the top couple of teams get all of the national spotlight, but Top to bottom the B1G just keeps getting stronger.

Back in the day they tried to explain the dropoff of Michigan, OSU, ND, Penn St. to recruits not wanting to play in cold weather anymore. That seems to be much less the case these days.
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby DreadNaught » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:54 pm

Mountaineer Buc wrote:The conference as a whole is getting better. As with every conference in College ball the top couple of teams get all of the national spotlight, but Top to bottom the B1G just keeps getting stronger.

Back in the day they tried to explain the dropoff of Michigan, OSU, ND, Penn St. to recruits not wanting to play in cold weather anymore. That seems to be much less the case these days.


The dropoff was due to HS football in the south consistently being able to produce a higher quantity of quality prospects. Mostly due to the weather that allows football to be a year round sport. For evidence look at the players drafted into the NFL and the states in which they played HS football. It's not even close... Every year it's Florida, Georgia, Texas, and California as the top four. Even smaller southern states like Alabama and Mississippi getting more players drafted annually than much more heavily populated states in the North.

The southern/warm weather colleges will likely continue to have an advantage based on recruiting geography. The cream of the crop up north (OSU, ND, Mich, etc) will still be able to cherry pick kids from the south, but it's those middle of the pack B1G schools that will continue to hurt the most.

There are a lot great universities with great fans in the northeast and rust belt states, but the universities in the South have caught up in terms of prestige and even surpassed them in terms of overall fan support.
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby MJW » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:06 pm

The conference does look very strong this year. Agree with MB. The Huskers winning in Eugene against a down Oregon program with a new coach will be a huge indicator of where the program is at with Riley. I really think we have a chance to compete in the West if Tanner Lee makes good.
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:47 am

DreadNaught wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:The conference as a whole is getting better. As with every conference in College ball the top couple of teams get all of the national spotlight, but Top to bottom the B1G just keeps getting stronger.

Back in the day they tried to explain the dropoff of Michigan, OSU, ND, Penn St. to recruits not wanting to play in cold weather anymore. That seems to be much less the case these days.


The dropoff was due to HS football in the south consistently being able to produce a higher quantity of quality prospects. Mostly due to the weather that allows football to be a year round sport. For evidence look at the players drafted into the NFL and the states in which they played HS football. It's not even close... Every year it's Florida, Georgia, Texas, and California as the top four. Even smaller southern states like Alabama and Mississippi getting more players drafted annually than much more heavily populated states in the North.

The southern/warm weather colleges will likely continue to have an advantage based on recruiting geography. The cream of the crop up north (OSU, ND, Mich, etc) will still be able to cherry pick kids from the south, but it's those middle of the pack B1G schools that will continue to hurt the most.

There are a lot great universities with great fans in the northeast and rust belt states, but the universities in the South have caught up in terms of prestige and even surpassed them in terms of overall fan support.

We are saying the same thing. Those HS prospects were choosing not to play at cold weather schools back in the 90's. What I was saying is that is much less the case these days. Even WVU pulls prospects from Florida every year.

Yes, the quality of HS programs in the south and California has made recruiting in those states nearly mandatory. Harbaugh and Meyer are able to pull some of the top guys out of these states which has led to the resurgence of these programs and the conference as a whole.
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby MJW » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:59 am

I think it's also relevant that there are now so many talented athletes, who have been in camps and travels teams for their entire lives, that there aren't enough relevant southern schools to hold them all. There are so many prep players who would have been marginal a generation ago, but have been polished into diamonds by 12 years of intense football education and training that they're factors now. There are just too many of them for one region to hold.

Another unrelated factor - there just happen to be a lot of really great coaches at Northern schools right now. Harbaugh, Meyer, Franklin, Ferentz, Dantonio...and a bunch of other really promising younger coaches in the Big Ten especially.
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Zarniwoop » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:04 am

Games start up tomorrow night.

Who would have thought we would ever see the day that the B1G would be having a CONFERENCE game on a Thursday night in week 1 of college football?





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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:07 am

Let's get the show on the Road.


ANYBODY BUT OHIO STATE!
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:08 am

....Seriously, you're like the Duke of College Football.
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Zarniwoop » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:20 am

While I'm glad everyone seems to think we win it all the time, in actuality we have only won 1 of the 6 Big 10 Championship games.

That being said, we are the only program in the conference that consistently battles for the BCS/playoff type bowls....having 2 out of 3 Playoff appearances and 10 BCS bowl appearances (most of any school in nation).
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:19 pm

Alright, so I thought Kevin Wilson, the IU head coach that OSU got as OC, was a young bald headed African American. Who did I have him confused with? Was IUs OC a younger black guy?
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Phantom Phenom » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:49 pm

Phantom Phenom wrote:Don't sleep on Indiana. I think they're good team.

They might upset Ohio state or penn state :). Hopefully not to Michigan



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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:03 pm

I suppose the bright side is if this keeps up I'll have a lot of free time on Saturday afternoons
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Super K » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:22 pm

Hoosiers have crawled back into their shell after their 2nd TD...

AND OSU go the run game rolling..they need to stick with it..
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Phantom Phenom » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:29 pm

Cmon Indiana!
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Phantom Phenom » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:46 pm

What the hell? That's incomplete!
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Super K » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:09 pm

Cambell has some freakin wheels man...

Wow..
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Phantom Phenom » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:09 pm

God damn Indiana defense sucks
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Zarniwoop » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:00 am

Zarniwoop wrote:
I'm least confident in the WR position




This will be our downfall. We don't have a legitimate traditional target to go to on 3rd down who can beat his guy one on one. Just a bunch of small shifty guys who can run in space.


Another year of too much side to side and not enough up and down


That dude (#1) on IU is a beast!!




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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Phantom Phenom » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:35 pm

Maryland over Texas?
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Zarniwoop » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:37 pm

I don't see it happening
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:05 pm

Phantom Phenom wrote:Maryland over Texas?

I'll wear a Trump 2020 avatar on Monday if it happens.

That's how much I think of the Twerps.
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby MJW » Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:30 am

Utah State made that a game with the Badgers...for about 20 minutes. Good on them. It might have been 40 if they'd avoided dumb turnovers. I wasn't impressed with Wisconsin at all. The must still be working the kinks out.
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Zarniwoop » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:49 am

Mountaineer Buc wrote:
Phantom Phenom wrote:Maryland over Texas?

I'll wear a Trump 2020 avatar on Monday if it happens.

That's how much I think of the Twerps.




Uh oh
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:37 pm

Zarniwoop wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:I'll wear a Trump 2020 avatar on Monday if it happens.

That's how much I think of the Twerps.




Uh oh

You gotta be shitting me.
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Phantom Phenom » Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:27 pm

Phantom Phenom wrote:Maryland over Texas?



Bingo!
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:37 pm

Phantom Phenom wrote:
Phantom Phenom wrote:Maryland over Texas?



Bingo!

Really gotta hand it to that Big 12 defense...
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Super K » Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:46 pm

Mountaineer Buc wrote:
Phantom Phenom wrote:Maryland over Texas?

I'll wear a Trump 2020 avatar on Monday if it happens.

That's how much I think of the Twerps.


Pics on Monday...
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Re: Official 2017 B1G Thread

Postby Zarniwoop » Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:53 pm

Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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