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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:06 pm

The Bucs made it no secret that they were targeting Godwin.

Really nice guy to have, still looking for that guard and running back.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Bootz2004 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:06 pm

real bucs fan wrote:I really like Godwin, but man, passing on Foreman twice on day 2 after passing on Cook in round 1 sucks.

As much as I love getting weapons for Winston, are we going to be able to run the ball next year????


Martin>>>Foreman. That's how.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby BradC » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:08 pm

real bucs fan wrote:I really like Godwin, but man, passing on Foreman twice on day 2 after passing on Cook in round 1 sucks.

As much as I love getting weapons for Winston, are we going to be able to run the ball next year????


Maybe because we're targeting Marlon Mack? That's what I'm thinking.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby real bucs fan » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:11 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:
real bucs fan wrote:I really like Godwin, but man, passing on Foreman twice on day 2 after passing on Cook in round 1 sucks.

As much as I love getting weapons for Winston, are we going to be able to run the ball next year????


Martin>>>Foreman. That's how.


That musta been the rationale, but how this FO can trust Doug Martin with our run game at this point is beyond me. He's had 2 good years out of 6.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Bootz2004 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:16 pm

real bucs fan wrote:
Bootz2004 wrote:
Martin>>>Foreman. That's how.


That musta been the rationale, but how this FO can trust Doug Martin with our run game at this point is beyond me. He's had 2 good years out of 6.


Same way they've trusted Gerald McCoy despite being injury prone his 1st few years. Look, I don't know if Martin is over his drug issues but I'm not going to pretend like the guy is a bum who's never done anything. When he's on he's one of the best. Foreman wasn't going to "fix" our run game.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Doctor » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:18 pm

I would've been fine with him in the second so this works out well. I think he's going to be great for us and really ups our talent level in the slot and can easily move outside if need be. Our weapons right now are simply insane. I had JuJu over him, but I'm good with Chris, especially in the 3rd.

I think Martin did all the right things and made OBP comfortable again. At least enough to not go RB day 1 and 2. A later round guy like Mack or Perine or Williams would still make a ton of sense too. If nothing else there is kind of always next year. RBs always come out and it's quite literally the most plug and play position you have in football. If we can get 2014 Martin, this all really is a moot point. Not holding my breath but here's to hoping.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Bootz2004 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:18 pm

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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Phantom Phenom » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:20 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:**** this site!!!


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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby threadkiller » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:21 pm

I am hoping that Nico Siragusa or Isaac Asiata are still available at our next pick. I think either would be an early impact RG.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Caradoc » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:25 pm

I'm optimistic about this draft so far
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Caradoc » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:29 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:
real bucs fan wrote:
That musta been the rationale, but how this FO can trust Doug Martin with our run game at this point is beyond me. He's had 2 good years out of 6.


Same way they've trusted Gerald McCoy despite being injury prone his 1st few years. Look, I don't know if Martin is over his drug issues but I'm not going to pretend like the guy is a bum who's never done anything. When he's on he's one of the best. Foreman wasn't going to "fix" our run game.



Yeah, we seem to be willing to roll with him. I still think we draft Perine. Temporary insurance if Doug doesn't get it together, long term FB and short yardage back either way. No need to panic like fans.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby real bucs fan » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:37 pm

Mountaineer Buc wrote:The Bucs made it no secret that they were targeting Godwin.

Really nice guy to have, still looking for that guard and running back.


Ya I woulda gone Dawkins/Foreman in rounds 2/3, and then have gotten the WR and DB on Day 3...

Hope we can run the ball next year!
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Bootz2004 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:38 pm

Traded up
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Phantom Phenom » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:41 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:Traded up



Still in 3rd round right?
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Bootz2004 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:41 pm

Phantom Phenom wrote:
Bootz2004 wrote:Traded up



Still in 3rd round right?


Yep. On the clock now 107th pick. Traded with the Jets.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby threadkiller » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:43 pm

Ok. What?
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Bootz2004 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:43 pm

Kendall Beckwith. He's a true Mike LB.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Teitan » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:43 pm

Interesting. Thought we might be moving up for Mack.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby threadkiller » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:43 pm

What did we give up to do that?
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Bootz2004 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:45 pm

Teitan wrote:Interesting. Thought we might be moving up for Mack.


This pick makes more sense than Mack. Likely moves Kwon to Sam backer on 1st & 2nd down, Beckwith comes off the field on 3rd.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Miller4Prez64 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:46 pm

Bucs trade back in!
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Bootz2004 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:47 pm

threadkiller wrote:What did we give up to do that?


Our 4th & 6th round picks. Nice trade.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby real bucs fan » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:47 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:
real bucs fan wrote:
That musta been the rationale, but how this FO can trust Doug Martin with our run game at this point is beyond me. He's had 2 good years out of 6.


Same way they've trusted Gerald McCoy despite being injury prone his 1st few years. Look, I don't know if Martin is over his drug issues but I'm not going to pretend like the guy is a bum who's never done anything. When he's on he's one of the best. Foreman wasn't going to "fix" our run game.

Not sure how you can compare Martin to McCoy with a straight face. Martins had 2 great years, but 3 terrible injury prone years.

McCoys had 4 great years in a row.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Bootz2004 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:50 pm

real bucs fan wrote:
Bootz2004 wrote:
Same way they've trusted Gerald McCoy despite being injury prone his 1st few years. Look, I don't know if Martin is over his drug issues but I'm not going to pretend like the guy is a bum who's never done anything. When he's on he's one of the best. Foreman wasn't going to "fix" our run game.

Not sure how you can compare Martin to McCoy with a straight face. Martins had 2 great years, but 3 terrible injury prone years.

McCoys had 4 great years in a row.


After ending his 1st 2 seasons on I.R..
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Teitan » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:54 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:
Teitan wrote:Interesting. Thought we might be moving up for Mack.


This pick makes more sense than Mack. Likely moves Kwon to Sam backer on 1st & 2nd down, Beckwith comes off the field on 3rd.



I'm not against it. I certainly know we needed to add a LB somewhere. I like what we are doing with this team.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Bootz2004 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:55 pm

Teitan wrote:
Bootz2004 wrote:
This pick makes more sense than Mack. Likely moves Kwon to Sam backer on 1st & 2nd down, Beckwith comes off the field on 3rd.



I'm not against it. I certainly know we needed to add a LB somewhere. I like what we are doing with this team.


Agreed. People forget how poor we were against the run. Beckwith helps in that area. I like the draft as well. Very good work by Licht, Koetter and their staff.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby Bootz2004 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:01 pm

2 more picks tomorrow.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby threadkiller » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:04 pm

I don't know the player. Weird pick, but maybe we moved up for BPA. LB honestly not a position I was looking much at. First game I put on:

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/kendell ... in-2016-2/

I would not draft this player. Horrible effort. Dog ****. Flat out walking with ball carriers in play around him. Maybe 5 good snaps the entire game. Not an exaggeration. Bunch of missed tackles on top of virtually no effort. I will watch more after I calm down. I hate that tape.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby real bucs fan » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:20 pm

We needed LB depth, and Beckwith is a thumper. Looks slow as molasses though- and that was before tearing his ACL.
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Re: ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Postby real bucs fan » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:21 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:
real bucs fan wrote:Not sure how you can compare Martin to McCoy with a straight face. Martins had 2 great years, but 3 terrible injury prone years.

McCoys had 4 great years in a row.


After ending his 1st 2 seasons on I.R..


The difference is mcCoy was actually good when on the field before those injuries. Martin was terrible.
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