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Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby DreadNaught » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:34 am

This thread is meant to propose some scenarios that may exist next month and get feedback from the community as to what direction they'd prefer.

I'll start w/a few, feel free to propose to add more...

Pick 19: Cam Robinson, Dalvin Cook, or John Ross?

Pick 50: Zay Jones, Teez Tabor, Budda Baker

Carl Lawson or Tim Williams?

Mike Williams or Corey Davis?

Dalvin Cook or Christian McCaffery?
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Teitan » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:40 am

DreadNaught wrote:This thread is meant to propose some scenarios that may exist next month and get feedback from the community as to what direction they'd prefer.

I'll start w/a few, feel free to propose to add more...

Pick 19: Cam Robinson, Dalvin Cook, or John Ross?

Pick 50: Zay Jones, Teez Tabor, Budda Baker

Carl Lawson or Tim Williams?

Mike Williams or Corey Davis?

Dalvin Cook or Christian McCaffery?


Pick 19: Ross (then Cook, Robinson)
Pick 50: Baker (Tabor, Jones)

Williams
Davis
Cook (But Mcaff isn't far behind)



I'll throw some in:

Pick 19: Jabrill Peppers, Christian Mcaffery, or Njoku

Pick 50: JuJu Smith-Schuster, Joe Mixon, Chris Wormley

Quincy Wilson or Teez Tabor?
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Bootz2004 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:53 am

DreadNaught wrote:This thread is meant to propose some scenarios that may exist next month and get feedback from the community as to what direction they'd prefer.

I'll start w/a few, feel free to propose to add more...

Pick 19: Cam Robinson, Dalvin Cook, or John Ross?

Pick 50: Zay Jones, Teez Tabor, Budda Baker

Carl Lawson or Tim Williams?

Mike Williams or Corey Davis?

Dalvin Cook or Christian McCaffery?


Robinson 19
Tabor 50
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Konatown » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:13 am

Cook at 19
Tabor at 50

Williams over Lawson

I'd go Davis over Williams for us at WR. I think Davis gives us something different at WR.

Cook over McCaffery
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Naismith » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:16 am

DreadNaught wrote:This thread is meant to propose some scenarios that may exist next month and get feedback from the community as to what direction they'd prefer.

I'll start w/a few, feel free to propose to add more...

Pick 19: Cam Robinson, Dalvin Cook, or John Ross?

Pick 50: Zay Jones, Teez Tabor, Budda Baker

Carl Lawson or Tim Williams?

Mike Williams or Corey Davis?

Dalvin Cook or Christian McCaffery?


This will (hopefully) be a fun thread.

19: Cam Robinson
50: Baker

Lawson > Williams
Williams > Davis
McCaffrey > Cook
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Naismith » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:18 am

Teitan wrote:I'll throw some in:

Pick 19: Jabrill Peppers, Christian Mcaffery, or Njoku

Pick 50: JuJu Smith-Schuster, Joe Mixon, Chris Wormley

Quincy Wilson or Teez Tabor?


19: Man, this one is tough. I'm leaning towards Peppers -> Njoku -> McCaffrey
50: Mixon

Wilson by a pretty large margin.
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby beardmcdoug » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:24 am

DreadNaught wrote:This thread is meant to propose some scenarios that may exist next month and get feedback from the community as to what direction they'd prefer.

I'll start w/a few, feel free to propose to add more...

Pick 19: Cam Robinson, Dalvin Cook, or John Ross? Ross

Pick 50: Zay Jones, Teez Tabor, Budda Baker Baker

Carl Lawson or Tim Williams? Lawson

Mike Williams or Corey Davis? Davis

Dalvin Cook or Christian McCaffery? Cook - by a mile
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby beardmcdoug » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:29 am

Teitan wrote:
DreadNaught wrote:This thread is meant to propose some scenarios that may exist next month and get feedback from the community as to what direction they'd prefer.

I'll start w/a few, feel free to propose to add more...

Pick 19: Cam Robinson, Dalvin Cook, or John Ross?

Pick 50: Zay Jones, Teez Tabor, Budda Baker

Carl Lawson or Tim Williams?

Mike Williams or Corey Davis?

Dalvin Cook or Christian McCaffery?



I'll throw some in:

Pick 19: Jabrill Peppers, Christian Mcaffery, or Njoku Peppers > Njoku >>>>>> McCaffrey

Pick 50: JuJu Smith-Schuster, Joe Mixon, Chris Wormley Juju >>> Mixon >> Wormley

Quincy Wilson or Teez Tabor? Tabor
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby DreadNaught » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:30 am

Pick 19: Cam Robinson, Dalvin Cook, or John Ross? Dalvin Cook

Pick 50: Zay Jones, Teez Tabor, Budda Baker? Teez Tabor

Carl Lawson or Tim Williams? Carl Lawson

Mike Williams or Corey Davis? Corey Davis

Dalvin Cook or Christian McCaffery? Dalvin Cook

Pick 19: Jabrill Peppers, Christian Mcaffery, or Njoku? McCaffery

Pick 50: JuJu Smith-Schuster, Joe Mixon, Chris Wormley? Joe Mixon

Quincy Wilson or Teez Tabor? Teez Tabor
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Teitan » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:46 am

DreadNaught wrote:Pick 19: Jabrill Peppers, Christian Mcaffery, or Njoku? McCaffery

Pick 50: JuJu Smith-Schuster, Joe Mixon, Chris Wormley? Joe Mixon


Now I'll get deeper here. Would you rather have

Mcaffery and one of: Schuster or Wormley

or would you rather have

Mixon and one of: Peppers or Njoku
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Naismith » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:07 am

Teitan wrote:Now I'll get deeper here. Would you rather have

Mcaffery and one of: Schuster or Wormley

or would you rather have

Mixon and one of: Peppers or Njoku


I'f rather have all three guys in the second option ahead of anyone in the first option.
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby DreadNaught » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:21 am

Teitan wrote:Would you rather have

Mcaffery and one of: Schuster or Wormley

or would you rather have

Mixon and one of: Peppers or Njoku


Mixon and one of: Peppers or Njoku - Mixon and Njoku.

I like Peppers and the more I've dug into him that more I like. He's not a deep zone/single high type of Safety and will get taken advantage of in the back third of the defense if a speedy WR is running at him at full speed on a deep route. But Peppers is a football player with good instincts. I just don't think he's in play for the Bucs since we just signed Wilcox who has some of the same attributes (both positive and negative).
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Super K » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:22 am

19: Robinson

50: Baker

Lawson

Williams

McCaffrey (although I really don't want either player)
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Bootz2004 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:26 am

Teitan wrote:
DreadNaught wrote:Pick 19: Jabrill Peppers, Christian Mcaffery, or Njoku? McCaffery

Pick 50: JuJu Smith-Schuster, Joe Mixon, Chris Wormley? Joe Mixon


Now I'll get deeper here. Would you rather have

Mcaffery and one of: Schuster or Wormley

or would you rather have

Mixon and one of: Peppers or Njoku


Mixon & Njoku
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby real bucs fan » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:29 am

John Ross and D'onta Foreman

Or

Christian McCaffery and Chris Godwin
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Teitan » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:30 am

Mcaffery and Godwin
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Bootz2004 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:42 am

real bucs fan wrote:John Ross and D'onta Foreman

Or

Christian McCaffery and Chris Godwin


McCaffery & Godwin
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Super K » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:50 am

real bucs fan wrote:John Ross and D'onta Foreman

Or

Christian McCaffery and Chris Godwin


Ross and Foreman
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Doctor » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:11 pm

For all the the above the answers are pretty much all Cook, Teez, Davis, and JuJus.

Davis and Foreman
or
Cook and JuJu
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Super K » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:17 pm

Doctor wrote:For all the the above the answers are pretty much all Cook, Teez, Davis, and JuJus.

Davis and Foreman
or
Cook and JuJu


Davis and Foreman
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby DreadNaught » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:27 pm

Doctor wrote:Davis and Foreman
or
Cook and JuJu


Cook and JuJu - Mainly b/c we already have Mike Evans so I went w/ the RB I like better.

Here are some more options....

Derek Barnett or Cam Robinson?

Zay Jones or Adoree Jackson?
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Super K » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:31 pm

DreadNaught wrote:
Doctor wrote:Davis and Foreman
or
Cook and JuJu


Cook and JuJu - Mainly b/c we already have Mike Evans so I went w/ the RB I like better.

Here are some more options....

Derek Barnett or Cam Robinson?

Zay Jones or Adoree Jackson?


Robinson

Jones
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Doctor » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:39 pm

LOL. Totally disagree.

Barnett
Jackson

Jackson is an incredibly gifted athlete that needs more coaching as a CB. But the kid can be great.
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby real bucs fan » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:25 am

Barnett and Jones.
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby real bucs fan » Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:36 am

From a purely on the field standpoint (since they both have off the field stuff):

Dalvin Cook or Joe Mixon?

I think I'd take Joe. Much better size and ball security.
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Teitan » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:46 am

real bucs fan wrote:From a purely on the field standpoint (since they both have off the field stuff):

Dalvin Cook or Joe Mixon?

I think I'd take Joe. Much better size and ball security.



Mixon hands down.
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Super K » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:44 am

real bucs fan wrote:From a purely on the field standpoint (since they both have off the field stuff):

Dalvin Cook or Joe Mixon?

I think I'd take Joe. Much better size and ball security.


Mixon's running style and skills better fit our team...

Mixon
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Bootz2004 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:09 am

Super K wrote:
real bucs fan wrote:From a purely on the field standpoint (since they both have off the field stuff):

Dalvin Cook or Joe Mixon?

I think I'd take Joe. Much better size and ball security.


Mixon's running style and skills better fit our team...

Mixon


I don't necessarily agree with that. If you're looking for a guy who gets North/South immediately and is great running inside, Mixon isn't that guy. It was a big complaint last season with Sims but it's not the only way a RB can win. Mixon fits on any team.
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Super K » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:58 am

Bootz2004 wrote:
Super K wrote:
Mixon's running style and skills better fit our team...

Mixon


I don't necessarily agree with that. If you're looking for a guy who gets North/South immediately and is great running inside, Mixon isn't that guy. It was a big complaint last season with Sims but it's not the only way a RB can win. Mixon fits on any team.


In order to go North and South, Cook needs a clear path and be able to see/choose his hole..

This isn't a strong suit of our OL as evidenced by our RB's having to break 2,3,4 tackles just to try and get back to the LOS..

Cook doesn't have and hasn't shown that ability..At all..

My biggest fear with selecting Cook is he gets bottled up for most of the game just trying to get out of the backfield..

His best fit would be a ZBS where he can stretch the LOS, see a hole and blaze through it..

JMO
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Re: Either - Or: 2017 NFL Draft edition

Postby Alpha » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:38 am

Just a gut feeling here...but based on the coaching staff...the type of offensive/defensive philosophies...and who I THINK will be available when we pick...

I really think this comes down to an either/or of Peppers vs. McCaffrey. Similar players on different sides of the ball.

One of those two are gonna be the guy. Maybe we move down (or up) but as it stands now...it's one of these two.
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