threadkiller wrote:That's not my opinion from watching the two as college prospects. Both are undersized 4-3 DE (Noah: 6'2" 251 33 arms, Derek 6'3" 259 32 1/8) who have the rare ability bend and torque their body while redirecting an upfield rush into the pocket. I think Noah showed better bend, but I thought he was elite "turning the corner". They both use their hands well getting under/inside their blockers leverage before/while doing so. Barnett's hands probably a bit heavier. Both struggled at the point of attack, but Noah more so. Both tested less than they showed on film, and are more short area explosion athletes than long speed (don't really project to cover/zone well as potential OLB). Derek has more power to his game and projects more easily as a 3 down RE, but is a little more stiff. Both guys showed good snap after snap motor. I wouldn't use one to describe the other, necessarily, but I don't think they are all that dissimilar.
Watching tape of these 2, they are nothing alike. The fact that you equate one of the BIGGEST differences between them, hand usage/activity, tells me you haven't seen much of one or the other play. Barnett is basically all hands and damn good hands at that. That's why he's able to produce pretty consistently. Spence is not. It was one of my big knocks on him coming out of college last year. He shoots out of a cannon and tries to go around the edge to the QB every time. The casuals here love it and they think this is how "elite" pass rushers win. No. This is how pass rushers get relegated to being pass rush specialists aka 3rd down players like Spence was. Average hand usage like Spence gets you pushed around in the run game. I don't see such a thing happening to Barnett. He may not have a lightning quick 1st step but fans need to realize that an elite 1st step won't win you a ton of battles if that's all you have to bring to the table. Barnett is able to keep big men at bay and off of his body and keep himself in the play whereas Spence wipes himself out by trying to run the same direction every time.
These 2 are nothing alike at all. It's honestly like saying Randall Cobb & Desean Jackson are comparable because they're similar in size.