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Re: Combine News

Postby MJW » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:35 pm

real bucs fan wrote:Forrest Lamp confirming that he is a heck of an OL prospect with athleticism and power as the cherry on top of his top notch tape.


There's a strong Ali Marpet vibe with that kid.
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Re: Combine News

Postby Brazen331 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:36 pm

Naismith wrote:Man, that 28.5 vert makes me want change the Fournette 40 to 4.62.


Didn't expect Kamara to jump 10 inches higher than Fournette...didn't expect McCaffrey to jump 7 inches higher than Cook.
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Re: Combine News

Postby real bucs fan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:36 pm

As DJ just illustrated, the vertical means little for RB, some guys just can't jump. Cook is 30 pounds lighter and only jumped a couple of inches higher.
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Re: Combine News

Postby real bucs fan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:42 pm

In addition to Lamp, among the top OL prospects, Cam Robinson is really impressing too.
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Re: Combine News

Postby DreadNaught » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:46 pm

real bucs fan wrote:As DJ just illustrated, the vertical means little for RB, some guys just can't jump. Cook is 30 pounds lighter and only jumped a couple of inches higher.


The vert, broad jump, and 10-yd split measure explosion. Not a deal breaker to only jump 28.5, but you don't see many 4.4-4.5 guys with that kind of vert.

I'd be interested to see what the best 40 time for guy with a sub 29" vert is.
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Re: Combine News

Postby DreadNaught » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:47 pm

real bucs fan wrote:In addition to Lamp, among the top OL prospects, Cam Robinson is really impressing too.


My two favorite OL in this draft
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Re: Combine News

Postby Naismith » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:47 pm

Yeah, Fournette's vert doesn't make me think he's less athletic than I thought, it makes me think he's not quite 100% healthy.
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Re: Combine News

Postby uscbucsfan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:51 pm

Naismith wrote:Yeah, Fournette's vert doesn't make me think he's less athletic than I thought, it makes me think he's not quite 100% healthy.


That's why I wouldn't want him.

He spent most of his college career injured in some facet.
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Re: Combine News

Postby real bucs fan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:51 pm

DreadNaught wrote:
real bucs fan wrote:In addition to Lamp, among the top OL prospects, Cam Robinson is really impressing too.


My two favorite OL in this draft


Same.
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Re: Combine News

Postby DreadNaught » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:52 pm

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Re: Combine News

Postby real bucs fan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:53 pm

MJW wrote:
real bucs fan wrote:Forrest Lamp confirming that he is a heck of an OL prospect with athleticism and power as the cherry on top of his top notch tape.


There's a strong Ali Marpet vibe with that kid.


The main difference is Marpet didn't have fantastic tape against teams like Alabama.

I think Lamp goes round 1.
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Re: Combine News

Postby GameTime » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:06 pm

real bucs fan wrote:
MJW wrote:
There's a strong Ali Marpet vibe with that kid.


The main difference is Marpet didn't have fantastic tape against teams like Alabama.

I think Lamp goes round 1.

If lamp had regular size arms, hed be a lock for the first round. The question is will the short arms hinder him in the nfl?
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Re: Combine News

Postby Teitan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:11 pm

Foreman being held out of combine activity due to stress fracture in foot. McCaffery is killing it.
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Re: Combine News

Postby DreadNaught » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:14 pm

GameTime wrote:
real bucs fan wrote:
The main difference is Marpet didn't have fantastic tape against teams like Alabama.

I think Lamp goes round 1.

If lamp had regular size arms, hed be a lock for the first round. The question is will the short arms hinder him in the nfl?


Restricts him to Guard or Center, but 32 1/4 is fine for a interior OL. OT usually need to be around a minimum of 34"
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Re: Combine News

Postby Buc2 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:17 pm

GameTime wrote:
real bucs fan wrote:
The main difference is Marpet didn't have fantastic tape against teams like Alabama.

I think Lamp goes round 1.

If lamp had regular size arms, hed be a lock for the first round. The question is will the short arms hinder him in the nfl?

I'm no OG expert, but why would short arms be a hindrance? it seems to me that short arms would work to their advantage for close in blocking. It seems to me they would have better leverage there.
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Re: Combine News

Postby uscbucsfan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:27 pm

Initial times:

4.50 Cook
4.51 Fournette
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Re: Combine News

Postby Naismith » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:29 pm

Well, LF might as well put the hoodie on and head home.
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Re: Combine News

Postby DreadNaught » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:29 pm

4.51 at 240lbs is damn impressive.

Cook is underwhelming so far, vert was worse than Fournette given the weight difference. Same with the 40.

Cook is a day 3 pick....... j/k
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Re: Combine News

Postby uscbucsfan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:30 pm

Naismith wrote:Well, LF might as well put the hoodie on and head home.


I think he's going to try again.

He didn't have a smooth start.
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Re: Combine News

Postby Naismith » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:32 pm

Man, Kamara looked like he was jogging and ran a 4.53. I think he just makes things look low effort even when running hard.
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Re: Combine News

Postby Naismith » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:34 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:
Naismith wrote:Well, LF might as well put the hoodie on and head home.


I think he's going to try again.

He didn't have a smooth start.


Oh yeah, I'm sure he's going to keep working out, I just think he's locked in to top 8, if not top 4, after that run and could just go home if he wanted to.
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Re: Combine News

Postby DreadNaught » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:34 pm

Buc2 wrote:
GameTime wrote:If lamp had regular size arms, hed be a lock for the first round. The question is will the short arms hinder him in the nfl?

I'm no OG expert, but why would short arms be a hindrance? it seems to me that short arms would work to their advantage for close in blocking. It seems to me they would have better leverage there.


If a DL can extend there arm and prevent an OL from locking on they can easily control the OL and maneuver around them.

Same applies in reverse where an OL is trying to engage the DL and lock them out.

I'm sure Cheb can explain in more detail.
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Re: Combine News

Postby real bucs fan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:39 pm

Looks like Foreman has a stress fracture in his foot and isn't testing today.
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Re: Combine News

Postby uscbucsfan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:41 pm

real bucs fan wrote:Apparently Foreman has a fracture in his foot and isn't testing today.


I was just typing this.
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Re: Combine News

Postby real bucs fan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:44 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:
real bucs fan wrote:Apparently Foreman has a fracture in his foot and isn't testing today.


I was just typing this.


Hopefully he falls to our 2nd!

I was in the right ballpark for Kamara, McCaffery, and Perrine.

A little surprised by Cook, I thought he was a 4.4 guy for sure.
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Re: Combine News

Postby beardmcdoug » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:46 pm

beardmcdoug wrote:Woke up this morning thinking about Cook running a 4.5 for some reason. Going with it.

Cook 4.5


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Re: Combine News

Postby Naismith » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:48 pm

real bucs fan wrote:Hopefully he falls to our 2nd!


I don't think that would be falling. I think that's about the ceiling of where he's going to go.
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Re: Combine News

Postby Brazen331 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:49 pm

Naismith wrote:
uscbucsfan wrote:
I think he's going to try again.

He didn't have a smooth start.


Oh yeah, I'm sure he's going to keep working out, I just think he's locked in to top 8, if not top 4, after that run and could just go home if he wanted to.


LF should stop working out period. No need for a pro day now. And it's still a pipe dream that we will have the opportunity to select Cook, despite these numbers and off-field concerns. 4.5 is solid and the tape shows he plays faster than that. He rarely gets caught from behind.
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Re: Combine News

Postby DreadNaught » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:59 pm

Fournette at 4.51 and 4.52 checks the box in spades for someone 6'2" 240lbs with is game tape. Throw the vert out, this isn't basketball and obviously the speed is legit. If a team is fine w/ his medical he's a top 10 pick, maybe top 5.
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Re: Combine News

Postby Naismith » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:12 pm

https://twitter.com/grahambarfield/stat ... 3664200705

Cook's weight adjusted speed percentile score: 64th

Fournette's weight adjusted speed percentile score: 94th
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