real bucs fan wrote:Njoku Coming in a 6'4", 246lbs, and monstrously long 35.25" arms.
Alleviates some of the size concerns I had with him. Definitely a guy to keep an eye on at 19.
Bootz2004 wrote:real bucs fan wrote:Njoku Coming in a 6'4", 246lbs, and monstrously long 35.25" arms.
Alleviates some of the size concerns I had with him. Definitely a guy to keep an eye on at 19.
He's a big WR basically.
Bucs N Beers wrote:Cooks has big play ability but he's not consistent at all. He racked up almost half of his yards last year in 3 games (186,173,143). Those were also the only 3 games he went over 100 yards. He also had 5 games where he had less than 50 yards.
I don't hate the guy. He's fast and talented. That mock isn't able to take FA in to account, I think we target a WR early in FA and therefore don't need to trade for Cooks. DJax+OJ Howard > Brandin Cooks.
Sidenote: I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up Tennessee. Rumors have been that Stills to Philly has been pretty much a foregone conclusion.
uscbucsfan wrote:They were just saying that while Fournette was 240 pounds, he looked lean, he's just a huge person. If he really runs a sub 4.5 at 240 pounds, that would be crazy.
Mountaineer Buc wrote:uscbucsfan wrote:They were just saying that while Fournette was 240 pounds, he looked lean, he's just a huge person. If he really runs a sub 4.5 at 240 pounds, that would be crazy.
Yeah, he's getting comparisons to Bo Jackson and Herschel Walker.
This is the hype that comes with the search for the next Zeke.
Kid is a freak of nature, but expectations are sky high on him.
Mountaineer Buc wrote:uscbucsfan wrote:They were just saying that while Fournette was 240 pounds, he looked lean, he's just a huge person. If he really runs a sub 4.5 at 240 pounds, that would be crazy.
Yeah, he's getting comparisons to Bo Jackson and Herschel Walker.
This is the hype that comes with the search for the next Zeke.
Kid is a freak of nature, but expectations are sky high on him.
real bucs fan wrote:Some 40 guesses for the RBs.
Cook, 4.42
McCaffery, 4.45
Fournette, 4.47
Kamara, 4.52
Foreman, 4.55
Hunt, 4.57
Perrine, 4.62
uscbucsfan wrote:Mountaineer Buc wrote:Yeah, he's getting comparisons to Bo Jackson and Herschel Walker.
This is the hype that comes with the search for the next Zeke.
Kid is a freak of nature, but expectations are sky high on him.
Zeke wasn't the prospect Fournette is though. Even from High School Fournette has had hype much like Clowney.
I worry the most about his injuries. People bringing up his games against Alabama aren't really fair IMO. They completely sold out with 11 future NFL players to stop the run. IF LSU could just complete a few passes and take advantage of that, it would have opened things up for Fournette, but they couldn't. He never had a chance in any of those games.
Konatown wrote:Mountaineer Buc wrote:Yeah, he's getting comparisons to Bo Jackson and Herschel Walker.
This is the hype that comes with the search for the next Zeke.
Kid is a freak of nature, but expectations are sky high on him.
I saw an NFL comp in Michael Turner. I think it fits.
Let's not forget Koetter was Atlanta's coordinator in his final year and Mike Smith's main RB. Wouldn't be shocked if we saw him land here.
DreadNaught wrote:uscbucsfan wrote:
Zeke wasn't the prospect Fournette is though. Even from High School Fournette has had hype much like Clowney.
I worry the most about his injuries. People bringing up his games against Alabama aren't really fair IMO. They completely sold out with 11 future NFL players to stop the run. IF LSU could just complete a few passes and take advantage of that, it would have opened things up for Fournette, but they couldn't. He never had a chance in any of those games.
That's fair, LSU couldn't pass at all. But my point was moreso that Fournette was more physically mature in HS and College than alot of his competition and their is a ceiling there and the competition will close the gap. That doesn't mean he isn't an elite athlete of freak b/c of his size/speed. I'm just saying that in the NFL he's not going to be throwing people around and having defenders fall off him like he has to this point. I think the kid is a top 15 pick even in todays NFL, I'm just leary of 240lbs RBs and am very interested to see how he tests in comparison to the other talented RBs in this class.
MJW wrote:I absolutely love me some David Njoku, but after Indy I expect him to end up much higher than 19.
IMHO he's the best Miami TE prospect since Shockey. At least. Shockey was a rare and amazing talent, but he was also an injury prone headcase.
I think Njoku's ceiling (if everything goes right) is Antonio Gates. I'm not saying he'll be Antonio Gates. I'm saying if he stays healthy, plays with a good QB in a good scheme, and gets it, he could be Antonio Gates good. This doesn't just pop out at me when I watch him - it fires up a neon sign inside my eyeballs. This kid is special.
uscbucsfan wrote:DreadNaught wrote:
That's fair, LSU couldn't pass at all. But my point was moreso that Fournette was more physically mature in HS and College than alot of his competition and their is a ceiling there and the competition will close the gap. That doesn't mean he isn't an elite athlete of freak b/c of his size/speed. I'm just saying that in the NFL he's not going to be throwing people around and having defenders fall off him like he has to this point. I think the kid is a top 15 pick even in todays NFL, I'm just leary of 240lbs RBs and am very interested to see how he tests in comparison to the other talented RBs in this class.
If he's 240 lbs and runs a 4.4, he will be the biggest freak RB prospect I've seen since Jamal Lewis (Lewis ran a 4.58). People forget he has really good vision, he can be elusive, and loves contact. I worry more about his injuries.
I don't know how you can use his weight as a knock if he doesn't lose any speed. It will only make him tougher, hit harder, make him harder to bring down.
real bucs fan wrote:Some 40 guesses for my top 7 RBs.
Cook, 4.42
McCaffery, 4.45
Fournette, 4.47
Kamara, 4.52
Foreman, 4.55
Hunt, 4.57
Perrine, 4.62
Naismith wrote:real bucs fan wrote:Some 40 guesses for my top 7 RBs.
Cook, 4.42
McCaffery, 4.45
Fournette, 4.47
Kamara, 4.52
Foreman, 4.55
Hunt, 4.57
Perrine, 4.62
Totally guessing here.
Cook 4.47
McCaffrey 4.45
Fournette 4.55
Kamara 4.54
Foreman 4.61
Hunt 4.58
Perrine 4.62
Just saw that Cam Robinson is left-handed. He's off my board. Lefties are weird.
uscbucsfan wrote:MJW wrote:I absolutely love me some David Njoku, but after Indy I expect him to end up much higher than 19.
IMHO he's the best Miami TE prospect since Shockey. At least. Shockey was a rare and amazing talent, but he was also an injury prone headcase.
I think Njoku's ceiling (if everything goes right) is Antonio Gates. I'm not saying he'll be Antonio Gates. I'm saying if he stays healthy, plays with a good QB in a good scheme, and gets it, he could be Antonio Gates good. This doesn't just pop out at me when I watch him - it fires up a neon sign inside my eyeballs. This kid is special.
In what way is he better than Howard?
Howard is already better and one could argue has a higher ceiling than Njoku.
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