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6-10 season

Postby ImAWalkingCorpse » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:54 pm

Simple question. If the Buccaneers have a 6-10 season, who survives? That is 4-8 with Winston as the QB, Dirk as the head coach, Monken as the OC and Smith as the DC. That means to me that Winston wasn't good for the last 12 games.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby Buc2 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:11 pm

ImAWalkingCorpse wrote:Simple question. If the Buccaneers have a 6-10 season, who survives? That is 408 with Winston as the QB, Dirk as the head coach, Monken as the OC and Smith as the DC. That means to me that Winston wasn't good for the last 12 games.

So, in your mind, if the Bucs can't win 4 more games, Winston sucks. Period. Doesn't matter if the defense remains a bottom 30 defense.

Is that about right?
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby ImAWalkingCorpse » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:30 pm

Buc2 wrote:
ImAWalkingCorpse wrote:Simple question. If the Buccaneers have a 6-10 season, who survives? That is 408 with Winston as the QB, Dirk as the head coach, Monken as the OC and Smith as the DC. That means to me that Winston wasn't good for the last 12 games.

So, in your mind, if the Bucs can't win 4 more games, Winston sucks. Period. Doesn't matter if the defense remains a bottom 30 defense.

Is that about right?

Mahomes is overcoming a bad Chiefs defense.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby Bootz2004 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:37 pm

ImAWalkingCorpse wrote:
Buc2 wrote:So, in your mind, if the Bucs can't win 4 more games, Winston sucks. Period. Doesn't matter if the defense remains a bottom 30 defense.

Is that about right?

Mahomes is overcoming a bad Chiefs defense.


That's a weird answer. It's also not an indication of how good or bad a QB is. This Bucs defense is giving up 33 points a game. Your position is that if this offense goes on to score 30 points a game and we lose it'll be Winston's fault for not leading the offense to 35 points a game. Horrible stance you took here, kidddo.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby serbiabuc » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:37 pm

ImAWalkingCorpse wrote:
Buc2 wrote:So, in your mind, if the Bucs can't win 4 more games, Winston sucks. Period. Doesn't matter if the defense remains a bottom 30 defense.

Is that about right?

Mahomes is overcoming a bad Chiefs defense.

Chiefs defense isn't as bad as Bucs. And Mahomes isn't overcoming bad D, whole offense is brilliant. Design, plays, rushing attack, OL plays... In every aspect they are better then Bucs
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby Buc2 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:38 pm

Oh. Well. **** Winston then. They should just dump him now and forget they ever made such a mistake.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby Cheb » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:50 pm

It depends on how the team looks at that time. Not all 6-10 teams are created equal.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby ImAWalkingCorpse » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:51 pm

So the answer I'm getting is no matter how bad Winston could be in a 6-10 season he is safe?
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby ImAWalkingCorpse » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:53 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:
ImAWalkingCorpse wrote:Mahomes is overcoming a bad Chiefs defense.


That's a weird answer. It's also not an indication of how good or bad a QB is. This Bucs defense is giving up 33 points a game. Your position is that if this offense goes on to score 30 points a game and we lose it'll be Winston's fault for not leading the offense to 35 points a game. Horrible stance you took here, kidddo.

Actually, franchise great QB's overcome bad defense's. Now if you are telling me that Winston is an average QB then we can roll with that.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby PrimeMinister » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:56 pm

ImAWalkingCorpse wrote:
Bootz2004 wrote:
That's a weird answer. It's also not an indication of how good or bad a QB is. This Bucs defense is giving up 33 points a game. Your position is that if this offense goes on to score 30 points a game and we lose it'll be Winston's fault for not leading the offense to 35 points a game. Horrible stance you took here, kidddo.

Actually, franchise great QB's overcome bad defense's. Now if you are telling me that Winston is an average QB then we can roll with that.


Give me a list of 5 franchise QBs who have lead their team to winning seasons while overcoming their defense giving up 33 ppg.

Shouldn’t be hard since this is what franchise QBs do.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby Jason Bourne » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:56 pm

It will be up to the new coach , Glazers would/will clean house .
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby ImAWalkingCorpse » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:06 pm

Jason Bourne wrote:It will be up to the new coach , Glazers would/will clean house .

That's the answer I am looking for. Truth is, if this team finishes 6-10 Winston will have played a role in it as much as the Bootz of the world would like to pretend.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby Bootz2004 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:15 pm

You clearly made this thread with an agenda in mind, kidddo.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby Rocker » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:24 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:You clearly made this thread with an agenda in mind, kidddo.


Plain as day.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby ImAWalkingCorpse » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:25 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:You clearly made this thread with an agenda in mind, kidddo.

Not really, fuckface. But keep on keepin on. How about you nut up and tell us if the Bucs finish 6-10 who is safe and who isn't?
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby Cheb » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:27 pm

ImAWalkingCorpse wrote:
Bootz2004 wrote:You clearly made this thread with an agenda in mind, kidddo.

Not really, fuckface. But keep on keepin on. How about you nut up and tell us if the Bucs finish 6-10 who is safe and who isn't?


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Re: 6-10 season

Postby Super K » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:29 pm

Jason Bourne wrote:It will be up to the new coach , Glazers would/will clean house .


Clean house or not, no way the Glazer bros dump JW without getting one helluva hall in return...

#1 pick..#1 pick who is also a QB....the investment of resources into the JW decision all need buys him a 2nd contract...
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby ImAWalkingCorpse » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:34 pm

Super K wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:It will be up to the new coach , Glazers would/will clean house .


Clean house or not, no way the Glazer bros dump JW without getting one helluva hall in return...

#1 pick..#1 pick who is also a QB....the investment of resources into the JW decision all need buys him a 2nd contract...

You're not getting a haul for Winston if you are trading him. However I tend to believe that Winston is safe no matter how bad or good he is.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby serbiabuc » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:36 pm

ImAWalkingCorpse wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:It will be up to the new coach , Glazers would/will clean house .

That's the answer I am looking for. Truth is, if this team finishes 6-10 Winston will have played a role in it as much as the Bootz of the world would like to pretend.

so basically, no matter how good is your D, how good your OL plays, how much passes receives drop, how good is your running game... its QB play that will dictate W-L result? I'm guessing Elvis Grbac was franchise QB and much better at it then Dan Marino...
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby Nano » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:40 pm

Super K wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:It will be up to the new coach , Glazers would/will clean house .


Clean house or not, no way the Glazer bros dump JW without getting one helluva hall in return...

#1 pick..#1 pick who is also a QB....the investment of resources into the JW decision all need buys him a 2nd contract...

If the Glazers aren't fans of Winston, which one of them likely isn't(Darcie), then they may try to get what they can get...or just not have us use the option year.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby PrimeMinister » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:42 pm

ImAWalkingCorpse wrote:
Bootz2004 wrote:You clearly made this thread with an agenda in mind, kidddo.

Not really, fuckface. But keep on keepin on. How about you nut up and tell us if the Bucs finish 6-10 who is safe and who isn't?


Lol did you get angry because no one cares to play into your obvious dumbass agenda?
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby Bootz2004 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:52 pm

Nano wrote:
Super K wrote:
Clean house or not, no way the Glazer bros dump JW without getting one helluva hall in return...

#1 pick..#1 pick who is also a QB....the investment of resources into the JW decision all need buys him a 2nd contract...

If the Glazers aren't fans of Winston, which one of them likely isn't(Darcie), then they may try to get what they can get...or just not have us use the option year.


If the Glazers weren't fans of Winston, they wouldn't have even exercised the option in April. Nothing has changed between then and now.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby Bootz2004 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:53 pm

PrimeMinister wrote:
ImAWalkingCorpse wrote:Not really, fuckface. But keep on keepin on. How about you nut up and tell us if the Bucs finish 6-10 who is safe and who isn't?


Lol did you get angry because no one cares to play into your obvious dumbass agenda?


I knew he'd crack but I didn't expect it to be so soon.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby ImAWalkingCorpse » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:10 pm

PrimeMinister wrote:
ImAWalkingCorpse wrote:Not really, fuckface. But keep on keepin on. How about you nut up and tell us if the Bucs finish 6-10 who is safe and who isn't?


Lol did you get angry because no one cares to play into your obvious dumbass agenda?

Not at all. He kept saying "*****" I responded in kind.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby Caradoc » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:41 pm

If the offense keeps looking like a top 5 unit, but the defense is so bad we are 6-10, the Defensive staff gets nuked (except for buck). If both offense and defense look bad (or Koetter falls on his sword for Smith ala Dungy), Licht is hiring his first coach (Koetter wasn't his decision)
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby Buc2 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:48 am

ImAWalkingCorpse wrote:
PrimeMinister wrote:
Lol did you get angry because no one cares to play into your obvious dumbass agenda?

Not at all. He kept saying "*****" I responded in kind.

Yeah... I can totally see where kidddo is as bad or worse than fuckface.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby UbuntuBuc » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:49 am

It would be so nice to return to the days of winning and not arguing about which player or coach is the cause of all the not winning.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby deltbucs » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:00 am

ImAWalkingCorpse wrote:So the answer I'm getting is no matter how bad Winston could be in a 6-10 season he is safe?

^^This guy
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby DreadNaught » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:05 am

Is this the 'I hate Winston' thread?

Seems premature since he hasn't started a game this season.

Here is an idea? Lets see how he plays these last 12 games then discuss how "safe" he should be.
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Re: 6-10 season

Postby DonkeyHunter » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:55 am

DreadNaught wrote:Here is an idea? Lets see how he plays these last 12 games then discuss how "safe" he should be.


Get out of here with that common sense and sound logic!
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