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Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 35pd

Postby BucaRican » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:00 pm

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bucs-de-noah-spence-9-10-meals-9000-calories-day-gain-35-pounds-164219174.html

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/08/tampa-bay-buccaneers-noah-spence-diet-9000-calories-menu

http://www.espn.com/blog/tampa-bay-buccaneers/post/_/id/20957/nine-meals-9000-calories-a-day-helped-noah-spence-gain-35-pounds

It’s surprising Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive end Noah Spence has any time to play football. It seems like he spends all day eating.

ESPN’s Jenna Laine outlined Spence’s crazy diet to put on 35 pounds so he could better hold up against the run. He was small for a defensive end, but not anymore. His diet included 9,000 calories every day, most of that coming from seven protein shakes. He has been downing nine or 10 meals a day, Laine wrote, including those shakes.

Usually people regret spending the summer eating too much and putting on extra pounds, but that was Spence’s goal.

“I don’t really look at food like I like it anymore. I’m just eating, man,” Spence told Laine.

Noah Spence put on 35 pounds in one year
Spence has dealt with shoulder injuries in both of his NFL seasons. His promising rookie year, which included 5.5 sacks, was followed up by just six games in 2017.

Spence was just 228 pounds at this time last season, which put him into a role as a situational player. He was too light to be effective on running downs. So he made an effort in the offseason to put on weight. He told Laine he is 263 pounds now, after his offseason of loading up on calories.

“I felt like if I just don’t stop eating or drinking, I won’t lose weight,” Spence said.

What does Spence eat every day?
Laine details Spence’s diet, which included a lot of protein shakes, potatoes, pasta, steak, ground turkey, shrimp … well, just about everything. Spence’s personal chef told Laine he had to cut back on vegetables and quinoa because Spence started to lose weight due to them.

The most remarkable part of the shakes, aside from how often he has them, is what goes in them. Laine wrote that each shake has “two scoops of vegan protein powder, two scoops of peanut butter, a banana, and two scoops of sugar-free coconut-milk ice cream.”

Spence isn’t eating unhealthy things, he’s just eating a lot of everything. The ESPN story said he wanted to put on the weight without adding too much body fat. Eating constantly isn’t a job requirement for most of us, but Spence hopes his unique diet is worth all the effort.


This is dedication right here!
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Stuart » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:10 pm

those protein shakes are brutal for gas. sure the locker room loves him. lol
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:32 pm

Can NFL players take T supplements? With all that soy in those shakes (vegan= no whey protein) he's gonna grow tits bigger than Tyler Perry's
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Bootz2004 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:38 pm

"Just eating habits, working out a lot more," said Spence. "I eat like 10 meals a day now, and like seven different shakes throughout the day. Last year I got down to 228 during camp. Now I'm at 257 so I'm feeling a lot better."


"Noah has gained a lot of weight. … He looks good," Koetter said Thursday. "He's pretty close to where he needs to be. He's going to be somewhere between 253 and 259, probably."


Spence was listed at 251 pounds last year but played lighter, and he said he's "240, 243" right now. More importantly, he said he has dropped from 14-15 percent body fat down to 9-10 percent.


Time to put up or get out. Each new weight brings a new hype train and a new article. Tired of hearing about his weight fluctuations. He has more weight changes than he does career sacks.

Now what I find interesting is this trainer saying he had Noah cut back on quinoa and veggies because he lost weight on them. Bullshit. Quinoa is one of the best sources for complete protein. Certain vegetables contain a lot of protein as well. Chef might need to do some research.
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby beardmcdoug » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:46 pm

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"Just eating habits, working out a lot more," said Spence. "I eat like 10 meals a day now, and like seven different shakes throughout the day. Last year I got down to 228 during camp. Now I'm at 257 so I'm feeling a lot better."


"Noah has gained a lot of weight. … He looks good," Koetter said Thursday. "He's pretty close to where he needs to be. He's going to be somewhere between 253 and 259, probably."


Spence was listed at 251 pounds last year but played lighter, and he said he's "240, 243" right now. More importantly, he said he has dropped from 14-15 percent body fat down to 9-10 percent.


Time to put up or get out. Each new weight brings a new hype train and a new article. Tired of hearing about his weight fluctuations. He has more weight changes than he does career sacks.

Now what I find interesting is this trainer saying he had Noah cut back on quinoa and veggies because he lost weight on them. Bullshit. Quinoa is one of the best sources for complete protein. Certain vegetables contain a lot of protein as well. Chef might need to do some research.


for real. and the whole soy protein powder instead of whey - wtf is up with that? dude's eating steaks and ground turkey but going for soy-based protein? may be time to find a new chef/dietitian...
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby BucJordan » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:00 pm

Lol love the expert athletic nutritionists chiming in. Judging by the vegan protein and coconut milk ice cream hes probably lactose intolerant and trying not to **** his pants every workout.

The quinoa thing is a little weird - it's about the same calorie density as rice/pasta but vegetables have the lowest energy density of any food type so having to cut down on them relative to higher density foods meats/oils/grains/nuts/seeds makes perfect sense if your primary goal is weight gain.
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:04 pm

BucJordan wrote:Lol love the expert athletic nutritionists chiming in. Judging by the vegan protein and coconut milk ice cream hes probably lactose intolerant and trying not to **** his pants every workout.

The quinoa thing is a little weird - it's about the same calorie density as rice/pasta but vegetables have the lowest energy density of any food type so having to cut down on them relative to higher density foods meats/oils/grains/nuts/seeds makes perfect sense if your primary goal is weight gain.

I'll have you know I'm an amateur expert athletic nutritionist and my Broscience is sound.
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby beardmcdoug » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:06 pm

if you aint shittin your pants you aint liftin
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Nano » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:19 pm

beardmcdoug wrote:if you aint shittin your pants you aint liftin


Noah Spence writhing on the ground clutching his sides, this looks bad. He can't even walk. Looks like they're getting the cart and bringing him to the locker room so we'll update Bucs fans on his condition as we get notif- Oh, we just received word that they're taking him to the bathroom instead.
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby real bucs fan » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:27 pm

Mountaineer Buc wrote:Can NFL players take T supplements? With all that soy in those shakes (vegan= no whey protein) he's gonna grow tits bigger than Tyler Perry's

Firstly there's no soy in vega protein powder, and secondly there's no estrogen in soy, thirdly dairy (whey) is loaded with estrogen.... so you're 0/3.

But am glad to see Spence is at least trying to go about 9,000 cals in a healthy way (as healthy as possible), unlike say Michael Phelps...
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Cheb » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:56 pm

One of my engineers has issues being underweight. He's 5'9", 135 lbs, and has been so his whole adult life. He wants to get muscles and add weight, wants to do the whole bodybuilding thing. Now he's eating more than 6000 calories a day and eats all the time. It's working nicely for him. He's added fifteen pounds in six months of healthy muscle mass.

Good for Spence. Can't wait for the report that he's 270. Bootz will blow a gasket.
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby DreadNaught » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:32 pm

real bucs fan wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:Can NFL players take T supplements? With all that soy in those shakes (vegan= no whey protein) he's gonna grow tits bigger than Tyler Perry's

Firstly there's no soy in vega protein powder, and secondly there's no estrogen in soy.


The estrogen increase from soy must come via placebo then.
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby NYBF » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:08 pm

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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby real bucs fan » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:02 pm

DreadNaught wrote:
real bucs fan wrote:Firstly there's no soy in vega protein powder, and secondly there's no estrogen in soy.


The estrogen increase from soy must come via placebo then.

What? If anything the phytos in soy causes the body to produce less estrogen, hence why it lowers breast cancer risk- while dairy increases breast cancer risk.
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby MJW » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:12 pm

Here to offer the, "Man, Spence got fat" hot-take.
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Brazen331 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:19 am

The odds are overwhelmingly in the ‘Spence will play worse’ column. His game is speed; how often has adding 35 LBs in one year actually worked out for the better regarding player performance?
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby real bucs fan » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:51 am

His game has always been more technique and motor than speed though he's definitely quick. Not sure how the weight will affect him, but I do think odds are better he stays healthy this year with his shoulder fully fixed, the added weight, and new role. In the game of buy/sell, I'd buy Spence- I think a breakout year is possible.
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Buc2 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:55 am

I don't care what he eats or what he weighs. If he can do the job he was hired to do, it's all good. If not... See ya!
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Super K » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:56 am

Brazen331 wrote:The odds are overwhelmingly in the ‘Spence will play worse’ column. His game is speed; how often has adding 35 LBs in one year actually worked out for the better regarding player performance?



Yeah, this...

While RBF might be right in that he's more motor than fast, 35lbs is a boatload of freaking weight to add in 6-8 months...

No way it's all "good weight"...no freaking way...

That said, Bootz is spot on.. Spence could weigh 260 or 160, IDGAF...just get to the damn QB or get the hell out!....
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Brazen331 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:38 am

I just don’t see how 35 more pounds is going to help his pass rush. He usually employs the same move when I watch him and I don’t see how added weight will improve it.

I understand the desire to stay on the field but do we need him to? Do we not have better options on 1st down now? Did we draft him to stop the run?
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby real bucs fan » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:48 am

Brazen331 wrote:I just don’t see how 35 more pounds is going to help his pass rush. He usually employs the same move when I watch him and I don’t see how added weight will improve it.

I understand the desire to stay on the field but do we need him to? Do we not have better options on 1st down now? Did we draft him to stop the run?

He's quite clearly going to be a situational pass rusher for us. I think the 35 pounds bit is a little overblown. His lightest was when he leaned out to the 230s and now he's in the 260s, but he was a 252 lbs guy at the combine, so really he's only about 10 pounds heavier than that.
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Bootz2004 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:17 am

Brazen331 wrote:I just don’t see how 35 more pounds is going to help his pass rush. He usually employs the same move when I watch him and I don’t see how added weight will improve it.

I understand the desire to stay on the field but do we need him to? Do we not have better options on 1st down now? Did we draft him to stop the run?


He came here at 251. No one had an issue with his weight at 251 as a pass rusher. He dropped down to 228. That's too light. Way too light for him to be effective as a pass rusher. At 263, don't look at it as a 35 pound weight gain. It's more like 12 pounds from his original game weight. That's more natural for him. He's way more comfortable and healthy playing closer to 260 than he is 220 or 230 even.
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Brazen331 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:34 am

Bootz2004 wrote:
Brazen331 wrote:I just don’t see how 35 more pounds is going to help his pass rush. He usually employs the same move when I watch him and I don’t see how added weight will improve it.

I understand the desire to stay on the field but do we need him to? Do we not have better options on 1st down now? Did we draft him to stop the run?


He came here at 251. No one had an issue with his weight at 251 as a pass rusher. He dropped down to 228. That's too light. Way too light for him to be effective as a pass rusher. At 263, don't look at it as a 35 pound weight gain. It's more like 12 pounds from his original game weight. That's more natural for him. He's way more comfortable and healthy playing closer to 260 than he is 220 or 230 even.


You’re right. I forgot about the drastic weight shed. Maybe
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:36 am

Even at 260lbs he is giving up at least 50lbs to an NFL offensive tackle. Technique is what will get him to the quarterback, not weight.
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Bootz2004 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:40 am

Mountaineer Buc wrote:Even at 260lbs he is giving up at least 50lbs to an NFL offensive tackle. Technique is what will get him to the quarterback, not weight.


Yep and that's always been my biggest issue with him. People rave about his 1st step. Well after that, there wasn't much in the cupboard for him to operate with. He doesn't use his hands as well as he should. He stops moving his feet when working against tackles and TEs for that matter, which makes their job easy. Seems if he doesn't beat them around the edge he's rendered useless. Especially against the run. I've watched him wash himself out of too many run plays to count. Noah has a lot of work to do and this weight thing has sort of been covering up his more problematic issues.
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:53 am

Bootz2004 wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:Even at 260lbs he is giving up at least 50lbs to an NFL offensive tackle. Technique is what will get him to the quarterback, not weight.


Yep and that's always been my biggest issue with him. People rave about his 1st step. Well after that, there wasn't much in the cupboard for him to operate with. He doesn't use his hands as well as he should. He stops moving his feet when working against tackles and TEs for that matter, which makes their job easy. Seems if he doesn't beat them around the edge he's rendered useless. Especially against the run. I've watched him wash himself out of too many run plays to count. Noah has a lot of work to do and this weight thing has sort of been covering up his more problematic issues.

mm-hmm. That's what makes 270lb guys like Ziggy Ansah so special. Dude has one of the best bullrushes in the game and it's great to want to emulate that, but Strahan was Strahan at 255lbs. Made his living making making 330lb John Runyan his bitch....with technique.
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Deuce » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:01 am

This is going way back but after Tracy McGrady, I'm always worried when an athlete significantly changes their weight. For those who don't know, McGrady came into the league as a really lean dude. One off-season he decided to "bulk up". Most of us know what happened next, as he suffered knee and back injuries for the rest of his career. I know that they are different sports, but I'm guessing your body isn't meant to gain 35 lbs in a few months, even if it's all muscle.
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Bootz2004 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:07 am

Deuce wrote:This is going way back but after Tracy McGrady, I'm always worried when an athlete significantly changes their weight. For those who don't know, McGrady came into the league as a really lean dude. One off-season he decided to "bulk up". Most of us know what happened next, as he suffered knee and back injuries for the rest of his career. I know that they are different sports, but I'm guessing your body isn't meant to gain 35 lbs in a few months, even if it's all muscle.


Bootz2004 wrote:He came here at 251. No one had an issue with his weight at 251 as a pass rusher. He dropped down to 228. That's too light. Way too light for him to be effective as a pass rusher. At 263, don't look at it as a 35 pound weight gain. It's more like 12 pounds from his original game weight. That's more natural for him. He's way more comfortable and healthy playing closer to 260 than he is 220 or 230 even.
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby Brazen331 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:10 am

Deuce wrote:This is going way back but after Tracy McGrady, I'm always worried when an athlete significantly changes their weight. For those who don't know, McGrady came into the league as a really lean dude. One off-season he decided to "bulk up". Most of us know what happened next, as he suffered knee and back injuries for the rest of his career. I know that they are different sports, but I'm guessing your body isn't meant to gain 35 lbs in a few months, even if it's all muscle.


I like your optimism but I doubt those 9,000 mostly-carb calories a day converted into 35 pounds of pure muscle.
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Re: Spence had 9-10 meals and 9,000 calories a day to gain 3

Postby PetePierson » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:37 am

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