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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby sonofg » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:41 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:
doooshnzl wrote:No interest in RB?


I'm not very high on this year's group. I'd add someone on Saturday but I don't see the value there tonight personally. That 300 carry, 1200 yard back everyone wants isn't in this draft IMO.


I wouldn't mind if they bypassed RB on day 2. Perhaps get a guy like Royce Freeman or swing on a guy like Kalen Ballage at the top of the 4th.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby Doctor » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:44 pm

Conner Williams makes a lot of sense. Can play tackle or guard. Maybe play LG move Ali back right. Play LT move Smith in. Eventually replace Dotson. Lots of options.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby Buc You » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:52 pm

Cardinals, Bills, Bengals, Broncos, Texans, Chiefs, Giants, and 49ers all have multiple 3rd round picks. I'd still like Licht to use two of our 2nds and find a way to get a couple of 3rds with the other.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby Jason Bourne » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:56 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:We should trade pick 38 and 102 to Cleveland for pick 33

Do it Dom !


For who and why


For Hernandez
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby Jason Bourne » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:00 pm

Cheb wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:We should trade pick 38 and 102 to Cleveland for pick 33

Do it Dom !


I disagree.

That fourth rounder will add valuable depth somewhere. We pick sixth in the second round, and unless Licht does something stupid, we will be selecting a talent who is a borderline first rounder already.



We still have the other two 2nd picks and we use Cleveland’s 2nd rd pick .
It works out with the trade chart and we still draft three 2nd rd picks . We just give up our 4th .

https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby real bucs fan » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:07 pm

I think it would make sense to leapfrog the Colts, since I think it's a given they are going to go defence back to back.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby theBKwhopper » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:09 pm

Jason Bourne wrote:We should trade pick 38 and 102 to Cleveland for pick 33

Do it Dom !

Who for? Or just for the heck of it?

My bad. Just saw your reply to Boots.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby deltbucs » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:21 pm

I honestly have been too busy to keep up with the prospects this year, but I'd like to see OG and CB address in the 2nd.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby ComingThisFall » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:25 pm

deltbucs wrote:I honestly have been too busy to keep up with the prospects this year, but I'd like to see OG and CB address in the 2nd.


Could get starters at CB, Guard and Safety in with those second rounders. I’m hoping we stay put and do that
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby bearlandbucfan » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:26 pm

deltbucs wrote:I honestly have been too busy to keep up with the prospects this year, but I'd like to see OG and CB address in the 2nd.


Ditto on both accounts

Maybe a S or another DE or OT with the 3rd Pick
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:30 pm

ComingThisFall wrote:
deltbucs wrote:I honestly have been too busy to keep up with the prospects this year, but I'd like to see OG and CB address in the 2nd.


Could get starters at CB, Guard and Safety in with those second rounders. I’m hoping we stay put and do that

I'm in this camp. Day 3 will be all about depth.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby BayAreaBucFan25 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:52 pm

You guys wouldn’t be happy if we gave up one our 2nd rd selections for Earl Thomas?
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby theBKwhopper » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:54 pm

BayAreaBucFan25 wrote:You guys wouldn’t be happy if we gave up one our 2nd rd selections for Earl Thomas?

I couldn't count on him being anything more than a one year rental. A 2nd is pricey.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby Caradoc » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:55 pm

I thought they were asking for a third not a second
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby BayAreaBucFan25 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:59 pm

theBKwhopper wrote:
BayAreaBucFan25 wrote:You guys wouldn’t be happy if we gave up one our 2nd rd selections for Earl Thomas?

I couldn't count on him being anything more than a one year rental. A 2nd is pricey.


Yea, just curious if we did would he play FS and Evans go to SS looking at measurables him, Evans and conte are all about the same size.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby theBKwhopper » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:06 pm

BayAreaBucFan25 wrote:
theBKwhopper wrote:I couldn't count on him being anything more than a one year rental. A 2nd is pricey.


Yea, just curious if we did would he play FS and Evans go to SS looking at measurables him, Evans and conte are all about the same size.

I would probably prefer to keep Evans where is, because that's what he excelled at last year. Thomas is probably good enough to play whereever he wants as a safety.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby Cheb » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:15 pm

BayAreaBucFan25 wrote:You guys wouldn’t be happy if we gave up one our 2nd rd selections for Earl Thomas?


The Bucs have 9-12 million dollars in cap space right now, depending on your source. Signing all of our rookies will cost about $8 million. Earl Thomas's cap hit is $10.4 million.

Not a chance in hell I'd trade for Thomas. We can't afford it. Even if we do a few obvious cuts, like JR Sweezy and Ryan Griffin, we still couldn't afford it, not unless you start cutting starters.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby BayAreaBucFan25 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:18 pm

Cheb wrote:
BayAreaBucFan25 wrote:You guys wouldn’t be happy if we gave up one our 2nd rd selections for Earl Thomas?


The Bucs have 9-12 million dollars in cap space right now, depending on your source. Signing all of our rookies will cost about $8 million. Earl Thomas's cap hit is $10.4 million.

Not a chance in hell I'd trade for Thomas. We can't afford it. Even if we do a few obvious cuts, like JR Sweezy and Ryan Griffin, we still couldn't afford it, not unless you start cutting starters.


Very true.. I’d be very pleased with a josh Jackson, guice\ jones, Ronnie Harrison, Reid haul here in the 2nd.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby Naismith » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:20 pm

https://twitter.com/JC1053/status/989940374973149191

'I don't believe he'll be drafted. I could be wrong about this....' - Broaddus on Maurice Hurst. Says if his heart condition is 'corrected' then his football career is over.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby BUCCABEER » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:22 pm

Regarding the thought to trade some of the 2nd round picks to move up, I would illustrate it the same way as Roulette - I would prefer to spread my chips all across the board and increase my chances of winning something as opposed to betting more on one or two spots on the board.

If we have 3 picks in the second round, we have a good chance that 2 of those 3 turn into good players for us. If we reduce that to 2 picks, the chances are it would only be one of them. And, as we've shown, have one pick in the second round with the guy making the picks......Well, could be Green Zeros.

Stay where we are and draft the needs if they are there, if not, take the best player on the board.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby Super K » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:27 pm

sonofg wrote:
Bootz2004 wrote:
I'm not very high on this year's group. I'd add someone on Saturday but I don't see the value there tonight personally. That 300 carry, 1200 yard back everyone wants isn't in this draft IMO.


I wouldn't mind if they bypassed RB on day 2. Perhaps get a guy like Royce Freeman or swing on a guy like Kalen Ballage at the top of the 4th.


Agreed...

Hernandez, Oliver, Reid tonight..

Ballage tomorrow in the 4th...
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby DreadNaught » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:27 pm

BayAreaBucFan25 wrote:You guys wouldn’t be happy if we gave up one our 2nd rd selections for Earl Thomas?


Nope, doesn't fit our cap situation. Who are we not re-signing and/or releasing to make room? Nothing against Earl Thomas.

We need young talented players on cheap rookie contracts. Day 2 is the best place to find those guys usually.

Really want to get a CB at 38. Oliver would be ideal for the Bucs imo. Jackson would be nice also. Those two + Guice and Henandez are my top 4 going into day 2.

Harold Landry would be amazing also.

38 - Landry
53 - Guice
56 - Oliver

Then grab Wyatt Teller from VTech tomorrow to start off round 4.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby Naismith » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:31 pm

DreadNaught wrote:38 - Landry
53 - Guice
56 - Oliver


I think that would have to go in reverse order. I read earlier that both Guice and Landry were dropping due to medical issues.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby mdb1958 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:37 pm

When we traded down with Buffalo, we gave up our 7th round pick?
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby Caradoc » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:43 pm

mdb1958 wrote:When we traded down with Buffalo, we gave up our 7th round pick?



I read that in one spot, not others. Not sure if we did
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby Buc2 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:48 pm

Caradoc wrote:
mdb1958 wrote:When we traded down with Buffalo, we gave up our 7th round pick?



I read that in one spot, not others. Not sure if we did

Per Greg Auman yesterday...
Tampa Bay still has the No. 12 pick in the draft, but picked up No. 53 and No. 56, trading back their compensatory seventh-round pick, No. 255, to the Bills.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby Nano » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:48 pm

Looks like we did give it up. We lost pick 255 in the draft. There goes our head start in PFA
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby BayAreaBucFan25 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:22 pm

Cheb wrote:
BayAreaBucFan25 wrote:You guys wouldn’t be happy if we gave up one our 2nd rd selections for Earl Thomas?


The Bucs have 9-12 million dollars in cap space right now, depending on your source. Signing all of our rookies will cost about $8 million. Earl Thomas's cap hit is $10.4 million.

Not a chance in hell I'd trade for Thomas. We can't afford it. Even if we do a few obvious cuts, like JR Sweezy and Ryan Griffin, we still couldn't afford it, not unless you start cutting starters.


Very true.. I’d be very pleased with a josh Jackson, guice\ jones, Ronnie Harrison, Reid haul here in the 2nd.
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby mdb1958 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:24 pm

The real value in those real late picks are you get to own the rights to that player, in effect you cancel out any team throwing extra cash at a player to get them on their team.

If you knew you had the next Brent Grimes back there would you use the 255th pick to get him?
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Re: 2nd Round Options

Postby theBKwhopper » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:47 pm

mdb1958 wrote:The real value in those real late picks are you get to own the rights to that player, in effect you cancel out any team throwing extra cash at a player to get them on their team.

If you knew you had the next Brent Grimes back there would you use the 255th pick to get him?

If I knew? I would have taken him much earlier
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