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Re: HOSE

Postby Buc2 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:38 am

MJW wrote:
Bootz2004 wrote:
This past year. Top 10 really. Unless you can name 15 who are better.


Joe Thomas
Tyron Smith
Trent Williams
Andrew Whitworth
Donald Penn (Cough)
Joe Staley
Russell Okung
Terron Armstead
Eric Fisher
David Bakhtiari
Anthony Costanzo
Jason Peters
Nate Solder
Duane Brown
Andrew Villanueva
Ronnie Stanley
Taylor Lewan
Taylor Decker
Garrett Bolles

And about 5 more guys I don't want to quibble about.

But yeah. Elite fam.

What is this? PFF's list? I call bs.
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Re: HOSE

Postby Bootz2004 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:36 pm

Buc2 wrote:
MJW wrote:
Joe Thomas
Tyron Smith
Trent Williams
Andrew Whitworth
Donald Penn (Cough)
Joe Staley
Russell Okung
Terron Armstead
Eric Fisher
David Bakhtiari
Anthony Costanzo
Jason Peters
Nate Solder
Duane Brown
Andrew Villanueva
Ronnie Stanley
Taylor Lewan
Taylor Decker
Garrett Bolles

And about 5 more guys I don't want to quibble about.

But yeah. Elite fam.

What is this? PFF's list? I call bs.


It's MJW's list. She hates Donovan Smith because she never saw him as a LT coming out of Penn State and because he has been she refuses to look at him objectively. The result is this ridiculous list.
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Re: HOSE

Postby Truck-a-Saurus » Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:33 pm

Can we get your list of 22 LTs who are objectively worse than him?
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Re: HOSE

Postby Deuce » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:08 pm

Buc2 wrote:
MJW wrote:
Joe Thomas
Tyron Smith
Trent Williams
Andrew Whitworth
Donald Penn (Cough)
Joe Staley
Russell Okung
Terron Armstead
Eric Fisher
David Bakhtiari
Anthony Costanzo
Jason Peters
Nate Solder
Duane Brown
Andrew Villanueva
Ronnie Stanley
Taylor Lewan
Taylor Decker
Garrett Bolles

And about 5 more guys I don't want to quibble about.

But yeah. Elite fam.

What is this? PFF's list? I call bs.


I'm someone who doesn't watch All-22's or anything like that. There aren't necessarily any stats that tell the difference between good and bad linemen. I've looked around the web for anyone who ranks Donovan Smith inside their top 10 LTs and I haven't found it. I actually haven't found any who even mention him in a positive light, the best I've found is not negative, or neutral.

Spotrac ranked him as the 13th best "value" at LT but he also has one of the lowest salaries, so take that for what it's worth.

Also, I'm firmly in the "keep Smith" camp for now, because I don't think we're finding anything better this year. But based on a collection of opinions he seems to be mediocre at best.
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Re: HOSE

Postby Brazen331 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:36 pm

Buc2 wrote:
MJW wrote:
Joe Thomas
Tyron Smith
Trent Williams
Andrew Whitworth
Donald Penn (Cough)
Joe Staley
Russell Okung
Terron Armstead
Eric Fisher
David Bakhtiari
Anthony Costanzo
Jason Peters
Nate Solder
Duane Brown
Andrew Villanueva
Ronnie Stanley
Taylor Lewan
Taylor Decker
Garrett Bolles

And about 5 more guys I don't want to quibble about.

But yeah. Elite fam.

What is this? PFF's list? I call bs.


Can we agree that a majority of players on that list are better than Smith?
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Re: HOSE

Postby Caradoc » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:39 pm

I wouldn't necessarily put him top 10, but he is certainly in the top half. Rankings for linemen are difficult, and necessarily subjective.
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Re: HOSE

Postby MJW » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:27 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:
Buc2 wrote:What is this? PFF's list? I call bs.


It's MJW's list. She hates Donovan Smith because she never saw him as a LT coming out of Penn State and because he has been she refuses to look at him objectively. The result is this ridiculous list.


I'll be waiting over here for specifics k%ddo.
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Re: HOSE

Postby MJW » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:28 pm

Brazen331 wrote:
Buc2 wrote:What is this? PFF's list? I call bs.


Can we agree that a majority of players on that list are better than Smith?


NO BECAUSE JASON LICHT LIKES HIM
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