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Postby UbuntuBuc » Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:57 pm

UFA:
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Brent Grimes CB
T.J. Ward SS
Evan Smith C
Ryan Fitzpatrick QB
Clinton McDonald DT
Nick Folk K
Sealver Siliga DT
Keith Tandy FS
Garrison Sanborn S
Justin Trattou DE
Adam Gettis G
Robert McClain CB
Charles Sims RB
Will Clarke DE
Kevin Pamphile G

Who would you want to try and sign?

RFA:
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Adarius Glanton OLB
Cameron Brate TE
Jude Adjei-Barimah CB
Adam Humphries WR
Kevin Pamphile G
Ryan Russell DE

Who would you want the Buccaneers to tender offers too?

ERFA:
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Peyton Barber RB
Patrick Murray K
Javien Elliott CB

Who would you want the Buccaneers to tender offers too?
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Bootz2004 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:59 pm

Pamphile is a UFA
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Bootz2004 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:01 pm

UFA:
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Brent Grimes CB
Clinton McDonald DT
Sealver Siliga DT
Keith Tandy FS
Adam Gettis G
Robert McClain CB
Charles Sims RB
Kevin Pamphile G


RFA:
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Adarius Glanton OLB
Cameron Brate TE
Jude Adjei-Barimah CB
Adam Humphries WR
Ryan Russell. DE


ERFA:
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Peyton Barber RB
Patrick Murray K
Javien Elliott CB
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Nano » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:02 pm

Re-sign Grimes, McDonald, Fitz, and Sims

Tender Brate, Murray, and Barber
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby UbuntuBuc » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:14 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:Pamphile is a UFA


I was going by the information on: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/ ... uccaneers/
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:14 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:UFA:
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Brent Grimes CB
Clinton McDonald DT
Sealver Siliga DT
Keith Tandy FS
Adam Gettis G
Robert McClain CB
Charles Sims RB
Kevin Pamphile G


RFA:
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Adarius Glanton OLB
Cameron Brate TE
Jude Adjei-Barimah CB
Adam Humphries WR
Ryan Russell. DE


ERFA:
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Peyton Barber RB
Patrick Murray K
Javien Elliott CB

Who I would try to keep.
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby DreadNaught » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:16 pm

Grimes is the only guy that will command any type of expensive contract.

All the rest of the UFA's could be re-signed for very cheap deals. So I don't have an issue retaining depth if they have a role to fill.

All the RFA's and ERFA's will be back for initial 90 man offseason/training camp roster. Brate will be interesting since he'll require a higher tender than the others, but he more than deserves to get a pay raise considering he's been a league minimum guy since he's been in the NFL.
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Bootz2004 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:18 pm

DreadNaught wrote:Grimes is the only guy that will command any type of expensive contract.

All the rest of the UFA's could be re-signed for very cheap deals. So I don't have an issue retaining depth if they have a role to fill.

All the RFA's and ERFA's will be back for initial 90 man offseason/training camp roster. Brate will be interesting since he'll require a higher tender than the others, but he more than deserves to get a pay raise considering he's been a league minimum guy since he's been in the NFL.


This. Most of these guys should be retained unless we see someone in FA who might represent an upgrade.
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:19 pm

DreadNaught wrote:Grimes is the only guy that will command any type of expensive contract.

All the rest of the UFA's could be re-signed for very cheap deals. So I don't have an issue retaining depth if they have a role to fill.

All the RFA's and ERFA's will be back for initial 90 man offseason/training camp roster. Brate will be interesting since he'll require a higher tender than the others, but he more than deserves to get a pay raise considering he's been a league minimum guy since he's been in the NFL.

Yup. I don't see the need to do a complete overhaul of the roster. But there are guys who have demonstrated they aren't part of the solution.
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby mdb1958 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:26 pm

MB, put a link on how to get that line through the words thing.
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:33 pm

mdb1958 wrote:MB, put a link on how to get that line through the words thing.

It's the little button between "Font colour" and "spoiler"

the one with the s on it.

highlight what you want to strike through and click that little button.

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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby mdb1958 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:07 pm

Mountaineer Buc wrote:
mdb1958 wrote:MB, put a link on how to get that line through the words thing.

It's the little button between "Font colour" and "spoiler"

the one with the s on it.

highlight what you want to strike through and click that little button.

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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:10 pm

mdb1958 wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:It's the little button between "Font colour" and "spoiler"

the one with the s on it.

highlight what you want to strike through and click that little button.

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wait for it

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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby MJW » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:55 pm

Mountaineer Buc wrote:
DreadNaught wrote:Grimes is the only guy that will command any type of expensive contract.

All the rest of the UFA's could be re-signed for very cheap deals. So I don't have an issue retaining depth if they have a role to fill.

All the RFA's and ERFA's will be back for initial 90 man offseason/training camp roster. Brate will be interesting since he'll require a higher tender than the others, but he more than deserves to get a pay raise considering he's been a league minimum guy since he's been in the NFL.

Yup. I don't see the need to do a complete overhaul of the roster. But there are guys who have demonstrated they aren't part of the solution.


Yeah, when you're 5-11, you really don't want to make any unnecessary coaching, play-calling, or personnel changes. It's the Koetter way!
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:59 pm

MJW wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:Yup. I don't see the need to do a complete overhaul of the roster. But there are guys who have demonstrated they aren't part of the solution.


Yeah, when you're 5-11, you really don't want to make any unnecessary coaching, play-calling, or personnel changes. It's the Koetter way!

I was talking about players, not coaches. My GM hat is about improving the overall talent on the roster. I just don't think a slash and burn is called for just yet.
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Doctor » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:15 pm

Would I be crazy to suggest another kicking competition? Murray is the best we've had in a while and we probably shouldn't mess with a good thing, but he really does leave a lot to be desired on kick offs.
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby MJW » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:45 am

UFA:
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Brent Grimes, CB - I think you do a one-year deal if he's not retiring. You can't fix everything in one offseason. He's a good band-aid for the position.
Clinton McDonald, DT - Exact same sentiments with McDonald. Bring him back for one more year.
Sealver Siligia, DT - I think we drafted Stevie T. to do his job. Let him walk.
Keith Tandy, FS - Not a part of the plans going forward.
Adam Gettis, G - Who?
Robert McClain, CB - I'd actually be interested in having him back for close to the vet minimum, but not until the draft comes and goes.
Charles Sims, RB - That thing is over.
Kevin Pamphile, G - Bye, Felicia


RFA:
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Adarius Glanton, OLB - Tender him. Great 4th linebacker.
Cameron Brate, TE - Tender him, but it let be known you'll listen to offers.
Jude Adjei-Barimah, CB - This was a mistake; he's not here anymore.
Adam Humphries, WR - Another guy you tender, but listen to offers for.
Ryan Russell, DE - Tender him. He showed some flashes late.


ERFA:
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Peyton Barber RB - Duh.
Patrick Murray K - I actually work out an extension.
Javien Elliott CB - Why not?
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby MJW » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:46 am

Mountaineer Buc wrote:
MJW wrote:
Yeah, when you're 5-11, you really don't want to make any unnecessary coaching, play-calling, or personnel changes. It's the Koetter way!

I was talking about players, not coaches. My GM hat is about improving the overall talent on the roster. I just don't think a slash and burn is called for just yet.


I wouldn't go as far as a teardown either, but it's obvious there are too many holes on this roster to compete right now. We need to be aggressive, that's all. Or we need to accept that we're still rebuilding and not try for quick-fixes. One or the other.
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Sammich » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:58 am

The problem with a slash and burn is that you can make yourself worse. My MO would be to keep everyone until you have a better option or a positive trade offer. Find a new end? Cut your worst end. Find a new guard? Cut you worst guard. Etc, etc.

Unless they demand an unreasonable contract or are a cancer in the locker room I see no reason to ever cut a player until you have an upgrade lined up.
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Bootz2004 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:12 am

Sammich wrote:The problem with a slash and burn is that you can make yourself worse. My MO would be to keep everyone until you have a better option or a positive trade offer. Find a new end? Cut your worst end. Find a new guard? Cut you worst guard. Etc, etc.

Unless they demand an unreasonable contract or are a cancer in the locker room I see no reason to ever cut a player until you have an upgrade lined up.


This. And with the way we structure contracts getting out of deals isn't that difficult. Take Joe Hawley and Evan Smith. Everyone hated them at the end of 2016. But we kept them both. Injuries hit and they had to step up. Now if this was Mark Dominik that would've been 2 UDFA rookies starting for us in place of Marpet and Sweezy. The only time Licht has really moved on from a player still under contract is if they make an insane amount of money(Revis), they make a decent amount of money but lost a starting job(Verner) or like you said find an upgrade (McDougald/Wilcox). I don't think we've ever gone into the draft NEEDING a specific position except 2015.
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Doctor » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:10 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:
Sammich wrote:The problem with a slash and burn is that you can make yourself worse. My MO would be to keep everyone until you have a better option or a positive trade offer. Find a new end? Cut your worst end. Find a new guard? Cut you worst guard. Etc, etc.

Unless they demand an unreasonable contract or are a cancer in the locker room I see no reason to ever cut a player until you have an upgrade lined up.


This. And with the way we structure contracts getting out of deals isn't that difficult. Take Joe Hawley and Evan Smith. Everyone hated them at the end of 2016. But we kept them both. Injuries hit and they had to step up. Now if this was Mark Dominik that would've been 2 UDFA rookies starting for us in place of Marpet and Sweezy. The only time Licht has really moved on from a player still under contract is if they make an insane amount of money(Revis), they make a decent amount of money but lost a starting job(Verner) or like you said find an upgrade (McDougald/Wilcox). I don't think we've ever gone into the draft NEEDING a specific position except 2015.

Sammich and Bootz telling it like it is.

Tandy is still a good rotational player and if we can bring him back we totally should. More so with Pamphile. I'm all for bringing in someone that can beat him out, but the key there is BEAT. HIM. OUT. Why the hell would you want to just hand the job over to a guy that wouldn't even be able to beat out Pamphile is a fair battle?
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Caradoc » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:31 pm

Don't make a hole just to have to fill it. For example, Pamphile needs to be upgraded, desperately so. But no reason not to keep him as a backup. I'd rather see him fill in for Dot in case of injury than Caleb.


Saying "let someone go because they need to be upgraded" presupposes you will be able to upgrade that position. History shows you often can't
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Miller4Prez64 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:53 pm

UFA:
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Brent Grimes CB I'd do what I could to reasonably re-sign him, but I'm expecting him to retire or sign with a contender
T.J. Ward SS Don't even spend a second thinking about bringing him back, good riddance
Evan Smith C He's quality veteran depth and brings versatility, I'd offer him a deal but would be okay if he left for a better opportunity
Ryan Fitzpatrick QB I'd prefer someone younger, but I think he will be re-signed and will battle Griffin again
Clinton McDonald DT The one UFA besides Grimes I'd try and keep the most
Nick Folk K lol
Sealver Siliga DT Who?
Keith Tandy FS I'd offer him a smaller deal, but wouldn't cry if he's gone
Garrison Sanborn S Meh
Justin Trattou DE Meh
Adam Gettis G Who?
Robert McClain CB Maybe another 1 year deal for depth
Charles Sims RB Pass, he's always hurt and even when he's on the field he's not a good player
Will Clarke DE We need some sort of depth at DE I guess...
Kevin Pamphile G I'd bring him back but hope he's not starting

Who would you want to try and sign?

RFA:
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Adarius Glanton OLB
Cameron Brate TE
Jude Adjei-Barimah CB
Adam Humphries WR
Kevin Pamphile G
Ryan Russell DE

I'd keep all of them at decent prices

Who would you want the Buccaneers to tender offers too?

ERFA:
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Peyton Barber RB
Patrick Murray K
Javien Elliott CB

Tender all of them, but make sure Murray has competition and please don't try and sell me on Barber as our feature back
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Defense5599 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:45 am

UFA:
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Brent Grimes CB- Bring him back but on a prove it deal
T.J. Ward SS- Get this locker room cancer the **** out
Evan Smith C- Only for backup money as that's all he is good for
Ryan Fitzpatrick QB- Get rid of the Fitz curse
Clinton McDonald DT- We need him back if we're getting rid of Swaggy
Nick Folk K- Are you kidding me?
Sealver Siliga DT- Seven snaps? See ya
Keith Tandy FS- See Evan Smith
Garrison Sanborn S- Only if he can play special teams
Justin Trattou DE- Bring him back for depth reasons only
Adam Gettis G- See Garrison Sanborn
Robert McClain CB- Kinda iffy on this one. We need all the CB help we can get
Charles Sims RB- Ballet class would be better for him. See ya
Will Clarke DE- See Justin Trattou
Kevin Pamphile G- I'd like to have him back but only if the price is right

Who would you want to try and sign?

RFA:
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Adarius Glanton OLB- Tender him. We need depth at LB and ST players
Cameron Brate TE- Lock him in to a long term deal and do it quickly
Jude Adjei-Barimah CB- Dude has regressed since 2015. Arrivederci
Adam Humphries WR- I'm ok with tendering him but if the price is too high, let him go.
Ryan Russell DE- We need pass rush help. Can he develop?

Who would you want the Buccaneers to tender offers too?

ERFA:
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Peyton Barber RB- He might not be the feature back but he is definitely a good back
Patrick Murray K- Tender him but bring in competition for him (not Aguayo or Folk)
Javien Elliott CB- Tender him, and lock him in to a long term deal. The dude is a playmaker despite not having the physical tools.

Who would you want the Buccaneers to tender offers too?

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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Buc2 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:09 am

Defense5599 wrote:UFA:
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Brent Grimes CB- Bring him back but on a prove it deal

Pretty sure he has proven it.
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Terp » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:38 pm

True sign of a 5-11 football team when you can let 15 UFA's walk and you're no worse off.
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby DanTurksGhost » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:21 pm

Grimes is a must re-sign, unless we get Malcolm Butler or something. If we lose Grimes and don't replace him with TWO quality starters, we're screwed.
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby mdb1958 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:08 am

DanTurksGhost wrote:Grimes is a must re-sign, unless we get Malcolm Butler or something. If we lose Grimes and don't replace him with TWO quality starters, we're screwed.



It might be time to move on, it hurt us having a hurt Grimes this year.
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby mdb1958 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:09 am

We even have some 2019 guys going bye bye.
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Re: Buccaneers Free Agents

Postby Jason Bourne » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:26 am

DanTurksGhost wrote:Grimes is a must re-sign, unless we get Malcolm Butler or something. If we lose Grimes and don't replace him with TWO quality starters, we're screwed.


Need to sign Grimes and the honey badger
Not sure how Desean would feel about it tho ...lol

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