***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby uscbucsfan » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:50 pm

Nano wrote:In other news, a team coming off a 0-16 season(and a 1-31 stretch) has better SB odds than the Bucs.


Are things really that bad here?...

With the Winston suspension and our schedule, its a long shot for us to make the playoffs.
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby PetePierson » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:07 pm

Nano wrote:In other news, a team coming off a 0-16 season(and a 1-31 stretch) has better SB odds than the Bucs.


Are things really that bad here?...



Yes and have been since the Brothers' Glazer hired Mushmouth Morris. Still can't believe that moron thought Leftwich was a smart move. But made up for it by doubling down with that cokehead, Fro'Man.
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby acmillis » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:14 pm

PetePierson wrote:
Nano wrote:In other news, a team coming off a 0-16 season(and a 1-31 stretch) has better SB odds than the Bucs.


Are things really that bad here?...



Yes and have been since the Brothers' Glazer hired Mushmouth Morris. Still can't believe that moron thought Leftwich was a smart move. But made up for it by doubling down with that cokehead, Fro'Man.

ok.....we get it.
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby Bootz2004 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:15 pm

2 factors from what I see. #1 our most nationally recognized player is suspended to start the year and many think he should be cut entirely. #2 Dirk Koetter is probably the worst head coach in the game and everyone knows it.
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby PrimeMinister » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:16 pm

Bootz2004 wrote:2 factors from what I see. #1 our most nationally recognized player is suspended to start the year and many think he should be cut entirely. #2 Dirk Koetter is probably the worst head coach in the game and everyone knows it.


More and more people are coming to agree with this.
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby Rocker » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:51 pm

PrimeMinister wrote:
Bootz2004 wrote:2 factors from what I see. #1 our most nationally recognized player is suspended to start the year and many think he should be cut entirely. #2 Dirk Koetter is probably the worst head coach in the game and everyone knows it.


More and more people are coming to agree with this.



He’s not flawless, but calling him the worst in the league is a bit of a stretch.
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby Jason Bourne » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:00 pm

Rocker wrote:
PrimeMinister wrote:
More and more people are coming to agree with this.



He’s not flawless, but calling him the worst in the league is a bit of a stretch.



This ... the worst is Hue Jackson hands down . Not even close .
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby mdb1958 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:19 am

Bootz2004 wrote:
mdb1958 wrote:OK, so, what did yall think about Chris Warren>


We don't


He might take Dougies job!

We coulda had Chris Warren instead we got Donnie Ernsberger???????
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby real bucs fan » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:47 am

Bootz is still bitter about firing his boy Lovie.
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby Phantom Phenom » Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:29 pm

Chiefs sign veteran CB Orlando Scandrick
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby Buc2 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:23 am

It's going to be a long, shitty year for defenses if they're calling this a roughing the passer penalty...

https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1030906603137060871
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby PrimeMinister » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:25 am

Buc2 wrote:It's going to be a long, shitty year for defenses if they're calling this a roughing the passer penalty...

https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1030906603137060871


That’s bullshit. Why can’t a defender fall on the QB with his body weight?
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby Cheb » Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:35 pm

Buc2 wrote:It's going to be a long, shitty year for defenses if they're calling this a roughing the passer penalty...

https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1030906603137060871


Seriously?

I'm all for player safety, but that was a legit and clean hit. If you're calling that roughing, may as well just put flags on the quarterback.
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby Phantom Phenom » Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:41 pm

GM is open to Bridgewater trade

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- New York Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan offered his take Monday on the team's quarterback competition, gushing about rookie Sam Darnold and all but confirming he's open to trading Teddy Bridgewater.

Maccagnan, in an interview with New York radio station WFAN, said he's "exceptionally impressed" with Darnold, describing the former USC star as "unflappable."

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These were the GM's first public comments on the three-way quarterback battle involving Darnold, Bridgewater and veteran Josh McCown.

Maccagnan doesn't have the final say on the quarterback decision -- that belongs to coach Todd Bowles -- but it seems clear which way he's leaning. Maccagnan traded up three spots and used the third overall draft pick on Darnold, who is poised to start for the second straight week Friday night against the New York Giants.

Offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates, speaking to reporters for the first time in training camp, praised Darnold's mental acumen, saying, "He's owned the playbook."

Bates said he marvels at "how easy the game is for him -- both mentally and physically. We haven't scaled back, offensively. We're giving Sam the same amount of information and plays as Josh and Teddy -- NFL veterans. He's able to take the classroom knowledge and all the stuff we studied in the classroom and take it to the field and execute it."

In his comments, Maccagnan did nothing to squash the speculation that Bridgewater could be traded.

"There's nothing to stop us from keeping three [quarterbacks], and there's nothing to stop us from keeping two," said Maccagnan, basically confirming there's a "for sale" sign on Bridgewater.

Darnold, getting the majority of practice reps for the second straight week, appears to have the inside track on the starting job.

Bridgewater has more trade value than McCown, who is 39 years old and carries a $10 million salary. Bridgewater, who has impressed in two preseason games, is only 25 with a $5 million base salary, plus incentives.

While he was careful not to handicap the competition, Bates made it clear he believes Darnold is ready to start in Week 1. He said Darnold has uncommon poise for a rookie, calling him "a mature 21-year-old.

"He's everything you're looking for in a young quarterback as far as the ability to go out there and the game isn't too big for him. The stage isn't too big for him. Really, when the lights come on, he gets better."

Bowles said he will wait until after the last preseason game to name his starter.
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby Jason Bourne » Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:14 pm

New MNF is awful
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby deltbucs » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:57 pm

Buc2 wrote:It's going to be a long, shitty year for defenses if they're calling this a roughing the passer penalty...

https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1030906603137060871

It was close to driving the QB to the ground. I'm guessing that was the call. Not that I'm defending it.
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby uscbucsfan » Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:01 pm

Calls are always worse in preseason intentionally. Every year we freak out.
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby Four Verticals » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:46 pm

PrimeMinister wrote:
Buc2 wrote:It's going to be a long, shitty year for defenses if they're calling this a roughing the passer penalty...

https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1030906603137060871


That’s bullshit. Why can’t a defender fall on the QB with his body weight?


Because they have changed the rule stating that the defender should avoid landing on the QB with his body weight. Fairly long discussion about this on one of the NFL shows over the weekend. Wasn't publicized much in the wake of all the helmet contact talk.

Based on the change in the rule, that was clearly a penalty.
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby mdb1958 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:22 am

Sapps career would have never been.
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby PrimeMinister » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:00 am

Four Verticals wrote:
PrimeMinister wrote:
That’s bullshit. Why can’t a defender fall on the QB with his body weight?


Because they have changed the rule stating that the defender should avoid landing on the QB with his body weight. Fairly long discussion about this on one of the NFL shows over the weekend. Wasn't publicized much in the wake of all the helmet contact talk.

Based on the change in the rule, that was clearly a penalty.


I’m aware of the new rule change. My question still stands. Why is this a problem? Why is that type of tackle now illegal?
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby Deuce » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:30 am

PrimeMinister wrote:
Four Verticals wrote:
Because they have changed the rule stating that the defender should avoid landing on the QB with his body weight. Fairly long discussion about this on one of the NFL shows over the weekend. Wasn't publicized much in the wake of all the helmet contact talk.

Based on the change in the rule, that was clearly a penalty.


I’m aware of the new rule change. My question still stands. Why is this a problem? Why is that type of tackle now illegal?


The straw that broke the camel's back was Aaron Rodgers' injury last year.
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby Jason Bourne » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:46 am

Deuce wrote:
PrimeMinister wrote:
I’m aware of the new rule change. My question still stands. Why is this a problem? Why is that type of tackle now illegal?


The straw that broke the camel's back was Aaron Rodgers' injury last year.


Jameis shoulder as well I forget the game tho
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Re: ***2018 Official NFL Off-Season Thread***

Postby DreadNaught » Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:09 am

Offseason is over, shifting to new thread

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