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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby NYBF » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:39 pm

Naismith wrote:I think the coaches on their way out are:

Marvin Lewis, Hue Jackson, Chuck Pagano, John Fox and Dirk Koetter. There's always a surprise ousting and I think that will be Todd Bowles.


In a season where "experts" were saying their tank job was historically bad, they're knocking on the door of a .500 season with Josh McCown as their QB. Unless Woody is pissed he fucked up the tank, I don't see how he gets fired.
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Naismith » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:50 pm

I agree, I think he's done a very good job and would expect him to be back but I could see him being the surprise change with a team that looked like they wanted to start anew going into next year.
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Bucs N Beers » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:15 pm

NYBF wrote: they're knocking on the door of a .500 season with Josh McCown as their QB. Unless Woody is pissed he fucked up the tank, I don't see how he gets fired.


Josh McCown is usually the tank commander. Started thinking about how historically bad he is. Turns out he's only been on one winning team. Ever.

2002 Arizona Cardinals: 5-11
2003 Arizona Cardinals: 4-12
2004 Arizona Cardinals: 6-10
2005 Arizona Cardinals: 5-11
2006 Detroit Lions: 3-13
2007 Oakland Raiders: 4-12
2008 Carolina Panthers: 12-4 *Only winning season of his career. Did not throw a single pass. Active only 2 games.
2009 Carolina Panthers: 8-8
2011 Chicago Bears: 8-8
2013 Chicago Bears: 8-8
2014 Tampa Bay Bucs: 2-14
2015 Cleveland Browns: 3-13
2016 Cleveland Browns: 1-15
2017 New York Jets: 4-7
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby DanTurksGhost » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:36 pm

Bucs N Beers wrote:Josh McCown is usually the tank commander.


Ok, that made me laugh. I can just imagine front office conversations...

"We need a really high draft pick. I mean, like #1 or #2 overall. Get me Josh McCown..."
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby NYBF » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:05 pm

DanTurksGhost wrote:
Bucs N Beers wrote:Josh McCown is usually the tank commander.


Ok, that made me laugh. I can just imagine front office conversations...

"We need a really high draft pick. I mean, like #1 or #2 overall. Get me Josh McCown..."


And a .500 season capped off by beating the Pats in week 17 leading to a ~15 pick would be the most Jets tank ever.
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Doctor » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:15 pm

I'm all for bringing Macadoo is as QB coach. He did a great job coaching a lot of the bonehead out of Eli during his first three years in NY.
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby NYBF » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:27 am

Doctor wrote:I'm all for bringing Macadoo is as QB coach. He did a great job coaching a lot of the bonehead out of Eli during his first three years in NY.


Nope.
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Teitan » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:29 am

Doctor wrote:I'm all for bringing Macadoo is as QB coach. He did a great job coaching a lot of the bonehead out of Eli during his first three years in NY.



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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby BucaRican » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:40 am

Doctor wrote:I'm all for bringing Macadoo is as QB coach. He did a great job coaching a lot of the bonehead out of Eli during his first three years in NY.


Are you for real? Jamies is already confused, would you like him to be completely lost?
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Deja Entendu » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:04 am

Teitan wrote:
Doctor wrote:I'm all for bringing Macadoo is as QB coach. He did a great job coaching a lot of the bonehead out of Eli during his first three years in NY.



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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Stephenip12 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:16 am

The coaching job by Todd Bowles has to be one of the best coaching job i have ever seen. shaky QB situation with a young unproven roster with some people picking them to go 0-16. Its impressive he has been able to squeeze 5 wins out of this roster.
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Teitan » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:18 am

Bowles is an excellent coach. Imagine if he had an above average roster.
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby kaimaru » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:19 am

Doctor wrote:I'm all for bringing Macadoo is as QB coach. He did a great job coaching a lot of the bonehead out of Eli during his first three years in NY.


Hmm, 4 years under McAdoo as OC/HC and Eli had 51 Ints and 33 Fumbles. Yeah really coached the bonehead out of him.
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Stephenip12 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:20 am

Teitan wrote:Bowles is an excellent coach. Imagine if he had an above average roster.


Agreed. Some of their losses this year came down to the wire most notably the new england game.
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby BucaRican » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:24 am

Teitan wrote:Bowles is an excellent coach. Imagine if he had an above average roster.


Stop it! Someone around here tends to think that this Bucs team doesn't have the players to compete. That the blame is on bad players, and coaching has nothing to do with performance.
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Phantom Phenom » Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:32 pm

Stephenip12 wrote:The coaching job by Todd Bowles has to be one of the best coaching job i have ever seen. shaky QB situation with a young unproven roster with some people picking them to go 0-16. Its impressive he has been able to squeeze 5 wins out of this roster.


THIS
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby kaimaru » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:39 pm

Teitan wrote:Bowles is an excellent coach. Imagine if he had an above average roster.


It's because Bowles don't take wooden nickles. :lol:
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Teitan » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:51 pm

I thought Miami was foolish to get rid of him when he was interim.
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby MJW » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:41 am

NYBF wrote:
Naismith wrote:I think the coaches on their way out are:

Marvin Lewis, Hue Jackson, Chuck Pagano, John Fox and Dirk Koetter. There's always a surprise ousting and I think that will be Todd Bowles.


In a season where "experts" were saying their tank job was historically bad, they're knocking on the door of a .500 season with Josh McCown as their QB. Unless Woody is pissed he fucked up the tank, I don't see how he gets fired.


Bowles should win COY. I'm not kidding. Worst 53 in the league entering the season. He kept them in the playoff hunt, legitimately, for three months. He got a CPOY season out of Josh McCown. He turned Robbie Anderson into a star and the worst collection of defensive talent in the league into a solid group. There's absolutely no way he should be fired, even if they lose out.
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Alpha » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:10 am

Watch..."The God Damn Jets" on YouTube.

Funniest **** ever.

Carry on with your histrionics....
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Crocaneers » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:03 pm

Per the four letter network

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/32 ... head-coach

Adjusted where I agreed.
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:19 pm

Crocaneers wrote:Per the four letter network

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/32 ... head-coach

Adjusted where I agreed.


Saved you all a click

5th out of the 5 hottest seats.

The Bucs finished 9-7 last year in Dirk Koetter's first season as head coach, but at 4-8 and having been outscored 81-33 in three NFC South games, things aren't looking good. What's worse is that the Bucs have averaged less than 20 points a game in the three years Koetter has been calling plays and have averaged 18.5 points in 2017, despite being loaded with weapons. By comparison, when former Bucs offensive coordinator Jeff Tedford had to take a leave of absence in 2014, first-time coordinator Marcus Arroyo's offense was averaging 16 points a game. Does some of that fall on quarterback Jameis Winston's shoulder injury? Sure. But the previous coaching staff didn't get any rope when their defensive line was decimated by injuries, or when their best player on defense at the time, linebacker Kwon Alexander, was issued a four-game suspension. The Bucs lost all four of those remaining games. -- Jenna Laine
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Hit55 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:32 pm

How awkward is it going to be Monday night against the Falcons when we are inducting Gruden into the RoH and he's making his speech while the hot rumor of him coming back to coach Tampa continues to persist as the Bucs continue to fail?
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Doctor » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:54 pm

kaimaru wrote:
Doctor wrote:I'm all for bringing Macadoo is as QB coach. He did a great job coaching a lot of the bonehead out of Eli during his first three years in NY.


Hmm, 4 years under McAdoo as OC/HC and Eli had 51 Ints and 33 Fumbles. Yeah really coached the bonehead out of him.

Eli threw 27 INTs in 2013.... Let me say that again- TWENTY-SEVEN. Since McAdoo got there- 14, 14, 16, 7.... During his time as Giants OC ('14-'15) Eli tied for third in the NFL with 65 touchdowns and ranked sixth in passing yards with 8,842. In 2015 alone, Eli threw a career-high 35 TDs while setting franchise records in completions (387) and attempts (618). Eli, like Jameis, plays with a confidence/recklessness you are never going to fully get rid of. If that's what you want you may as well quit now. But you want to talk about maximizing the good while doing damage control on the bad- yeah, McAdoo did that for Eli. If you are talking about turning Winston into Brady/Rodgers, no coach will do that.

EDIT: And we're not talking about having him be as HC or even OC here. Talking about being the QB Coach, like he was for Aaron Rodgers in GB.
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Nano » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:39 pm

Hit55 wrote:How awkward is it going to be Monday night against the Falcons when we are inducting Gruden into the RoH and he's making his speech while the hot rumor of him coming back to coach Tampa continues to persist as the Bucs continue to fail?

Not nearly as awkward when you consider that his ROH induction will also serve as his introductory press conference as our new HC
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Mex-Buc » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:11 pm

Nano wrote:
Hit55 wrote:How awkward is it going to be Monday night against the Falcons when we are inducting Gruden into the RoH and he's making his speech while the hot rumor of him coming back to coach Tampa continues to persist as the Bucs continue to fail?

Not nearly as awkward when you consider that his ROH induction will also serve as his introductory press conference as our new HC


I think there's a plan in some of the Bucs Group Fans about holding a big sign saying something like "PLEASE COME BACK" or so..

I can see a very awkward moment happening there.
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Naismith » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:31 pm

I wouldn't be very excited about a Gruden return as coach, but it certainly will be interesting to see how close access to every team and coach over the last decade has changed his approach.
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby BUCCABEER » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:14 pm

Nano wrote:
Hit55 wrote:How awkward is it going to be Monday night against the Falcons when we are inducting Gruden into the RoH and he's making his speech while the hot rumor of him coming back to coach Tampa continues to persist as the Bucs continue to fail?

Not nearly as awkward when you consider that his ROH induction will also serve as his introductory press conference as our new HC


Man, that's some funny stuff!......But, what if, they wouldn't would they? The stadium could get as loud as the Monday Night game against the Rams in 2000.
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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Buc2 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:28 am

A new fan chant for that Monday night game...

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Re: 2017 NFL Head Coach Hot Seat

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:31 am

BUCCABEER wrote:
Nano wrote:Not nearly as awkward when you consider that his ROH induction will also serve as his introductory press conference as our new HC


Man, that's some funny stuff!......But, what if, they wouldn't would they? The stadium could get as loud as the Monday Night game against the Rams in 2000.

Man, those were the days. I loved that game.
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