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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby real bucs fan » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:27 am

NYBF wrote:
real bucs fan wrote:I never ripped Aguayo for having no track record. He has a track record, it's terrible, and it's what I critiqued him for.


real bucs fan wrote:I would put more stock in an 8 year track record than 1 TC/preseason myself.

Let it go my brah, you aren't impressing anyone.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby Phantom Phenom » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:59 pm

I know it's only preseason but same ole falcons blew 20-10 4th Q lead to the dolphins


They lost 23-20
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby Phantom Phenom » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:57 pm

As expected, Dolphins QB Ryan Tannehill to undergo ACL surgery, miss season
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby NYBF » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:09 am

Phantom Phenom wrote:As expected, Dolphins QB Ryan Tannehill to undergo ACL surgery, miss season


But...but...but...

Bootz2004 wrote:You guys were wrong. Tannehill suffered no structural damage to his knee.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby PrimeMinister » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:03 pm

Phantom Phenom wrote:I know it's only preseason but same ole falcons blew 20-10 4th Q lead to the dolphins


They lost 23-20


Even in preseason this is funny.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby Nano » Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:01 pm

Chargers are getting destroyed by Boykin
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby LoRdNlKoN » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:38 pm

NYBF wrote:
Phantom Phenom wrote:As expected, Dolphins QB Ryan Tannehill to undergo ACL surgery, miss season


But...but...but...

Bootz2004 wrote:You guys were wrong. Tannehill suffered no structural damage to his knee.



I finally just put bootz on ignore. Regardless of whether he's right or wrong, he's just insufferable . Makes this place almost unreadable.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby Caradoc » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:44 pm

LoRdNlKoN wrote:



I finally just put bootz on ignore. Regardless of whether he's right or wrong, he's just insufferable . Makes this place almost unreadable.



Yay for you?
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby Nano » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:44 am

Darren Rovell @darrenrovell
21,054: Chargers game attendance tonight. 25,667: LA Galaxy game attendance last night (via
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby Hit55 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:05 am

Nano wrote:
Darren Rovell @darrenrovell
21,054: Chargers game attendance tonight. 25,667: LA Galaxy game attendance last night (via

I mean it's preseason. Attendance is always dreadfully low. However, I do maintain that LA never needed a football team, much less two. There are already way too many sports teams for a (mostly bandwagon) fan base out there to pick and choose which team to root for every year. Adding two more to the fold in a sport that historically, hasn't worked out too well for them, will prove to be a disaster.

Maybe I'm wrong and fans in LA will start showing more interest in a team that isn't the Lakers (or more recently during this past decade, the Clippers). But with the way the Dodgers and Angels are playing along with the star power surrounding those teams, the new talent (and possible addition of LeBron after the upcoming season) with the Lakers, the continued success of the Clippers, and the LA Kings not having a losing record in almost a decade, I can't fathom seeing how this won't go poorly for the NFL. It's obviously a large enough market, but the Rams are already at a handicap with how awful their team is...and the Chargers aren't too far behind.

Edit: Plus, there are a lot of fans in LA who still LOVE the Raiders. But with them going to Vegas soon, who knows?
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby PrimeMinister » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:13 am

In 10 years one of those NFL teams will leave LA.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby MJW » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:31 pm

Hit55 wrote:
Nano wrote:

I mean it's preseason. Attendance is always dreadfully low. However, I do maintain that LA never needed a football team, much less two. There are already way too many sports teams for a (mostly bandwagon) fan base out there to pick and choose which team to root for every year. Adding two more to the fold in a sport that historically, hasn't worked out too well for them, will prove to be a disaster.

Maybe I'm wrong and fans in LA will start showing more interest in a team that isn't the Lakers (or more recently during this past decade, the Clippers). But with the way the Dodgers and Angels are playing along with the star power surrounding those teams, the new talent (and possible addition of LeBron after the upcoming season) with the Lakers, the continued success of the Clippers, and the LA Kings not having a losing record in almost a decade, I can't fathom seeing how this won't go poorly for the NFL. It's obviously a large enough market, but the Rams are already at a handicap with how awful their team is...and the Chargers aren't too far behind.

Edit: Plus, there are a lot of fans in LA who still LOVE the Raiders. But with them going to Vegas soon, who knows?


In general, cities where you can go to the beach in November make lousy football towns, if not lousy sports towns in general. There are a few exceptions of course. But why the crap is a Los Angeleno going to spend $300 to take the family to see bad Chargers football on a 72 degree Sunday?
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby DreadNaught » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:50 pm

PrimeMinister wrote:In 10 years one of those NFL teams will leave LA.


I agree. Although I don't know if the Chargers are leased to the new stadium being built under the same terms as the Rams.

I wish the local politicians in Oakland and the Raiders could've worked it out for the team to stay. But of all the moves the past 2 seasons I think the Raiders going to Las Vegas will work out the best. I know Vegas is viewed as just a vacation hotspot, but I have some family out there and it's more of market than it gets credit for imho. I think sports teams have just avoided it due to the stigma of gambling. The fact that so many people visit will help ensure the stadium stays full even in down years for the Raiders. But it's great for the city and will be good for the NFL imo. I just think keeping the Raiders in Oakland and moving one of the LA teams to Vegas would've been better for the NFL. But money talks and fans get screwed.

I feel bad for the Chargers these next two seasons as they will be playing in a 25k seat MLS stadium while competing for market share in a new city w/ the Rams. They should be better than the Rams which will help, but overall I don't think the NFL as a league is better off have two teams in LA based on that city's history.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby Buc2 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:43 pm

DreadNaught wrote:
PrimeMinister wrote:In 10 years one of those NFL teams will leave LA.


I agree. Although I don't know if the Chargers are leased to the new stadium being built under the same terms as the Rams.

I wish the local politicians in Oakland and the Raiders could've worked it out for the team to stay. But of all the moves the past 2 seasons I think the Raiders going to Las Vegas will work out the best. I know Vegas is viewed as just a vacation hotspot, but

I feel bad for the Chargers these next two seasons as they will be playing in a 25k seat MLS stadium while competing for market share in a new city w/ the Rams. They should be better than the Rams which will help, but overall I don't think the NFL as a league is better off have two teams in LA based on that city's history.

Because it works in NYC, they think it will work in LA. I don't think it will work either. As soon as one of those teams is in a position they can move, I'd bet they will.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby mdb1958 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:40 pm

Obi is 6'4" 244lbs - Hey Bootz, is that a safety?
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby MJW » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:49 am

The Iggles just cut Ryan Mathews. And to answer the next question, no, not even for the first three weeks.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby RedLeader » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:14 pm

MJW wrote:The Iggles just cut Ryan Mathews. And to answer the next question, no, not even for the first three weeks.


That bodes well for my boy, Pumphrey

Lets go #34..
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby Doctor » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:54 pm

MJW wrote:The Iggles just cut Ryan Mathews. And to answer the next question, no, not even for the first three weeks.

lol

I threw Matthews name out there a few weeks ago when the rumors were circling about him getting cut. Since then none of the back ups have shown anything to change my mind. I don't know what people are afraid of, he'll be dirt cheap. Blount, the guy that replaced him, got a 1 year 1.25M deal. It's a very very simple process. They suit up, best back wins. Period. If he's better than all our RBs that says more about them anyway, and I'd rather have the best player running the ball.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby Bootz2004 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:56 pm

Doctor wrote:
MJW wrote:The Iggles just cut Ryan Mathews. And to answer the next question, no, not even for the first three weeks.

lol

I threw Matthews name out there a few weeks ago when the rumors were circling about him getting cut. Since then none of the back ups have shown anything to change my mind. I don't know what people are afraid of, he'll be dirt cheap. Blount, the guy that replaced him, got a 1 year 1.25M deal. It's a very very simple process. They suit up, best back wins. Period. If he's better than all our RBs that says more about them anyway, and I'd rather have the best player running the ball.


He's got garbage.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby MJW » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:03 am

Bootz2004 wrote:
Doctor wrote:lol

I threw Matthews name out there a few weeks ago when the rumors were circling about him getting cut. Since then none of the back ups have shown anything to change my mind. I don't know what people are afraid of, he'll be dirt cheap. Blount, the guy that replaced him, got a 1 year 1.25M deal. It's a very very simple process. They suit up, best back wins. Period. If he's better than all our RBs that says more about them anyway, and I'd rather have the best player running the ball.


He's got garbage.


I never quite understood why he wasn't better. Part of it was injuries. The guy has played 16 games in a season once more than my dog. But he was so good at Fresno State. I never expected him to "replace" LT (nobody ever will), but I thought he'd give the Chargers a Pro Bowler all the same. I sure don't want him now.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby Doctor » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:40 am

Bootz2004 wrote:
Doctor wrote:lol

I threw Matthews name out there a few weeks ago when the rumors were circling about him getting cut. Since then none of the back ups have shown anything to change my mind. I don't know what people are afraid of, he'll be dirt cheap. Blount, the guy that replaced him, got a 1 year 1.25M deal. It's a very very simple process. They suit up, best back wins. Period. If he's better than all our RBs that says more about them anyway, and I'd rather have the best player running the ball.


He's got garbage.

I don't know. He looks like a guy that would recycle.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby Deuce » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:59 am



Yep. The more I think about it, it still makes sense for all of the other events that will take place there. And the NFL would make up a measly 8 events over the year (+/- Monday/Thursday/playoff games).

Still a fun thing to joke about, imo. The stadium was built for NFL football and has a restaurant closed on the main day.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby PrimeMinister » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:03 pm

It makes some sense, but I'm laughing regardless because...why not.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby Buc2 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:37 pm

Yeah. I got a good laugh when I saw that story. Imagining it as a big F-Y! aimed at Falcon fans made it even funnier to me. :lol:
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby mdb1958 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:31 pm

Does Billy Brown take Brent Celek's job?
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby mdb1958 » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:08 am

It would be nice if we could make a low level trade to New England, for one of our DE's that were not going to keep.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby Bootz2004 » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:14 am

mdb1958 wrote:It would be nice if we could make a low level trade to New England, for one of our DE's that were not going to keep.


You actually bring up a valid point. But I don't think we have much to spare in that department ourselves. Jaq Smith is still injured so we need more from other guys. Maybe George Johnson, who at $2.25 mil will almost certainly be cut if he can't move up the depth chart. But again with Smith hurt we need depth at an already thin DE position.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby mdb1958 » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:51 am

Bootz2004 wrote:
mdb1958 wrote:It would be nice if we could make a low level trade to New England, for one of our DE's that were not going to keep.


You actually bring up a valid point. But I don't think we have much to spare in that department ourselves. Jaq Smith is still injured so we need more from other guys. Maybe George Johnson, who at $2.25 mil will almost certainly be cut if he can't move up the depth chart. But again with Smith hurt we need depth at an already thin DE position.


George is who I was thinking.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2017 NFL Offseason thread***

Postby Bootz2004 » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:10 am

mdb1958 wrote:
Bootz2004 wrote:
You actually bring up a valid point. But I don't think we have much to spare in that department ourselves. Jaq Smith is still injured so we need more from other guys. Maybe George Johnson, who at $2.25 mil will almost certainly be cut if he can't move up the depth chart. But again with Smith hurt we need depth at an already thin DE position.


George is who I was thinking.


Right now I'd say no but if Jaq can come back at some point before the season starts it's a possibility.
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