NavyBuc wrote:You can’t use the excuse “our qb was bad because our defense was bad.” There are many qbs who have done great with horrible defenses like ours.
Name a QB in NFL history that has posted a winning record when he's had the following around him;
Bottom 3 scoring defense
Bottom 3 in YPA rushing
The worst FG% in the NFL
You claim there are "many" so go ahead an name just 1 please? If you can't then perhaps you are holding Winston a different standard than any other QB in the history of the NFL.
Focus more on making your own argument instead of telling others what they "can't" use in theirs, especially when you can't back up your claim.
Like I said before, if the Bucs can finish better than 20th in those 3 categories in 2019 we won't have a losing record. If someone would like to challenge me on that I'm game.
The idea that Jameis is losing us games by himself when this team is literally among the worst in the NFL at the things he has no control over (defense, kicking, rushing) while being atleast decent at what the QB does control (passing) is something I just don't understand.
Lets put a team around him and see what happens. It seems to work well for most other QBs and even in 2015 and 2016 when those areas were slightly better (but still far from great) this team won 6 and 9 games respectively, after coming off a 2 win season before he was drafted.