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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby NYBF » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:04 pm

**** you france, bunch of cheese eating surrender monkeys.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby The Outsider » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:09 pm

NYBF wrote:Griezmann flop, BS handball. Why the **** even bother with VAR?


The Griezemann flop sure, but that was a legit handball.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby sanka » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:17 pm

Mpabbe reminds me of Thierry Henry of 1998.

Viva Le France ...2nd World Cup. France needs to improve lives for the immigrant groups that live in the hood outside of Paris.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby The Outsider » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:22 pm

M'bappe is actually better than Thierry Henry was at his age. If he can improve his touch and skill he could be Messi/Ronaldo levels of good. I'd also like to see less diving and other bullshit from him but I'm.afraid it's become part of.the culture.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby sanka » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:25 pm

True. I hope Madrid can snatch him up and leave Hazard for Chelsea's sake...he is all we have. We could sell Hazard and buy Mpabbe lol.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby The Outsider » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:32 pm

sanka wrote:True. I hope Madrid can snatch him up and leave Hazard for Chelsea's sake...he is all we have. We could sell Hazard and buy Mpabbe lol.


Considering I hate Chelsea....

Lol, honestly though I don't think PSG is going to sell M'bappe quite yet. They are as wealthy as Madrid and only just signed him. And with M'bappe on the rise on the right and Neymar on the left they could have the best duo of wingers in the game in 2 or 3 years.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby NYBF » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:38 pm

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NYBF wrote:Griezmann flop, BS handball. Why the **** even bother with VAR?


The Griezemann flop sure, but that was a legit handball.


Kick the ball into a defender's hand from 3' away it will never be ruled a handball. But for some reason a deflection off the head from under 2' away is?
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby NYBF » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:38 pm

sanka wrote:Mpabbe reminds me of Thierry Henry of 1998.

Viva Le France ...2nd World Cup. France needs to improve lives for the immigrant groups that live in the hood outside of Paris.


Funny considering how many "French" made up the national team.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby sanka » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:17 pm

NYBF wrote:
sanka wrote:Mpabbe reminds me of Thierry Henry of 1998.

Viva Le France ...2nd World Cup. France needs to improve lives for the immigrant groups that live in the hood outside of Paris.


Funny considering how many "French" made up the national team.

Yea, but, many of them do hail from the banlieue of Paris.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby Jason Bourne » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:39 pm

NYBF wrote:Griezmann flop, BS handball. Why the **** even bother with VAR?


Handball was legit
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby The Outsider » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:07 pm

NYBF wrote:
The Outsider wrote:
The Griezemann flop sure, but that was a legit handball.


Kick the ball into a defender's hand from 3' away it will never be ruled a handball. But for some reason a deflection off the head from under 2' away is?


I've seen the replay like 15 times at this point. Perisic can't have his arm stuck out like that. It doesn't matter if he intended to hit the ball with his hand or not. His arm made his body bigger due to being in a position away from the body. Any defender knows that you have to keep your arms, especially elbow down, in as tight to your body as possible when you're inside the box like that.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby Buc2 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:26 am

It was the right call and it didn't decide the game. As much as I was pulling for the underdog, at the end of the day, the best team won. Congrats, France.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby Ken Carson » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:54 am

Croatia dominated most of the game. France won on the counter attack and through good fortune. Given full rest for both teams, I like Croatia in a rematch.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby uscbucsfan » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:59 pm

Heard on the radio the WC ratings were down as much as 32% from 4 years ago. Not sure if those were just US numbers, but the whole tourney was down, especially the final.

Edit: They were down from 2010, too.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby The Outsider » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:28 pm

Ken Carson wrote:Croatia dominated most of the game. France won on the counter attack and through good fortune. Given full rest for both teams, I like Croatia in a rematch.


That's the thing about soccer. Croatia dominated possession and had twice the shots that France did, but had less shots on target. The best team doesn't always win the possession battle. In fact, Jose Mourinho's Chelsea won the English Premier League on parking the bus and winning on the counter.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby NYBF » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:26 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:Heard on the radio the WC ratings were down as much as 32% from 4 years ago. Not sure if those were just US numbers, but the whole tourney was down, especially the final.

Edit: They were down from 2010, too.


From what I've read, that's just US. Eh, their loss. Best world cup in a while.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby uscbucsfan » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:34 am

NYBF wrote:
uscbucsfan wrote:Heard on the radio the WC ratings were down as much as 32% from 4 years ago. Not sure if those were just US numbers, but the whole tourney was down, especially the final.

Edit: They were down from 2010, too.


From what I've read, that's just US. Eh, their loss. Best world cup in a while.


It felt that a ton of people in the US were interested. I kept hearing on ESPN that each of the last 3 WC it has gotten more popular here and it's growing, then the numbers come out and the ratings were terrible. The US not being in factors in, but I also don't think the popularity has grown like some had thought.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby Buc2 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:01 am

I watched some of highlights of games online, but I only watched one full game. The final.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby Deja Entendu » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:16 am

I think the US not being in it is the obvious major factor; on top of that, I also feel like the game times weren't as convenient as they were in 2014.

Maybe I'm mis-remembering, but it felt like they were all in the afternoon. I know the 10am games were tricky for me this year, and I have a more flexible work schedule than most. Taking the US out of the equation and you have less people following and invested in finding ways to watch.

I'm curious what the streaming #s were like.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby acmillis » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:38 am

Deja Entendu wrote:I think the US not being in it is the obvious major factor; on top of that, I also feel like the game times weren't as convenient as they were in 2014.

Maybe I'm mis-remembering, but it felt like they were all in the afternoon. I know the 10am games were tricky for me this year, and I have a more flexible work schedule than most. Taking the US out of the equation and you have less people following and invested in finding ways to watch.

I'm curious what the streaming #s were like.

I'm gonna go with the start times. If you work a M-F, 9-5, you only caught weekend games.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby NYBF » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:40 am

Yeah, I think time zone was a bigger factor than the US not being in it. 2014 had the perfect storm of the US doing well and Brazil being (I think) split between Eastern and an hour ahead of Eastern, so the game times were convenient.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby Buc2 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:51 am

NYBF wrote:Yeah, I think time zone was a bigger factor than the US not being in it. 2014 had the perfect storm of the US doing well and Brazil being (I think) split between Eastern and an hour ahead of Eastern, so the game times were convenient.

2022 won't be much better with the games in Qatar. They're the same as Moscow...7 hours ahead of ET.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby NYBF » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:13 pm

Buc2 wrote:
NYBF wrote:Yeah, I think time zone was a bigger factor than the US not being in it. 2014 had the perfect storm of the US doing well and Brazil being (I think) split between Eastern and an hour ahead of Eastern, so the game times were convenient.

2022 won't be much better with the games in Qatar. They're the same as Moscow...7 hours ahead of ET.


And it won't help that it is now running from Nov - Dec and interrupting club seasons all over the world.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby Buc2 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:54 pm

NYBF wrote:
Buc2 wrote:2022 won't be much better with the games in Qatar. They're the same as Moscow...7 hours ahead of ET.


And it won't help that it is now running from Nov - Dec and interrupting club seasons all over the world.

Oh, wow. I didn't realize they did that.

Here's the Wiki write up on it...

Move to November and December

Owing to the climate in Qatar, concerns were expressed over holding the World Cup in its traditional timeframe of June and July. In October 2013, a task force was commissioned to consider alternative dates and report after the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.[66] On 24 February 2015, the FIFA Task Force proposed that the tournament be played from late November to late December 2022,[67] to avoid the summer heat between May and September and also avoid clashing with the 2022 Winter Olympics in February and Ramadan in April.[68][69]

The notion of staging the tournament in November is controversial since it would interfere with the regular season schedules of some domestic leagues around the world. Commentators have noted the clash with the Western Christmas season is likely to cause disruption, whilst there is concern about how short the tournament is intended to be.[70] FIFA executive committee member Theo Zwanziger said that awarding the 2022 World Cup to Qatar's desert state was a "blatant mistake".[71] Frank Lowy, chairman of Football Federation Australia, said that if the 2022 World Cup were moved to November and thus upset the schedule of the A-League, they would seek compensation from FIFA.[72] Richard Scudamore, chief executive of the Premier League, stated that they would consider legal action against FIFA because a move would interfere with the Premier League's popular Christmas and New Year fixture programme.[73] On 19 March 2015, FIFA sources confirmed that the 2022 World Cup final would be played on 18 December.[74]
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:16 pm

But Qatar promised air conditioned venues for both the fans and on the field for the players too.

Surely FIFA vented out this promise in their original bid?
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby Deja Entendu » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:01 pm

What are the odds it even takes place in Qatar? I still think there's a decent shot something unravels and Great Britain gets it (now that North America is getting 2026).
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby Zarniwoop » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:06 pm

I think it’s a near certainty it stays in Qatar. FIFA will bankrupt itself if it means a good spot of virtue signaling
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby The Outsider » Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:59 am

Zarniwoop wrote:I think it’s a near certainty it stays in Qatar. FIFA will bankrupt itself if it means a good spot of virtue signaling


Like virtue signaling has anything to do with it. ****ing over people who bribe you is bad business. If they want to keep the dirty cash rolling in they can't **** Qatar on this.
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Re: Official 2018 World Cup Thread

Postby Ken Carson » Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:17 pm

uscbucsfan wrote:
NYBF wrote:
From what I've read, that's just US. Eh, their loss. Best world cup in a while.


It felt that a ton of people in the US were interested. I kept hearing on ESPN that each of the last 3 WC it has gotten more popular here and it's growing, then the numbers come out and the ratings were terrible. The US not being in factors in, but I also don't think the popularity has grown like some had thought.


The fact that it was on Fox Sports and not ESPN has to be factored in as well. I bet you 80% of subscribers can't tell you what channel FS1 is on their TV
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