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Postby Buc2 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:36 pm

LOL k
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby Swashy » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:36 pm

That roof better open
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby Buc2 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:39 pm

All the pics they posted on FB...

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I don't think the roof opens, Swashy. I think it's a natural light roof. If so, they should be able to grow grass.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby Swashy » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:42 pm

Lol and by far the smallest seating capacity. ****ing cheapskates
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby Phantom Phenom » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:42 pm

Swashy wrote:Lol and by far the smallest seating capacity. ****ing cheapskates



Yup
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby DreadNaught » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:44 pm

Just over 28k fixed seats with a potential capacity of 30k (smallest of all MLB stadiums). 16 MLB teams averaged over 28k fans per game last season.

No upper-deck or retractable roof would save $ on the cost to build.
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Postby Mountaineer Buc » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:44 pm

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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby DreadNaught » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:45 pm

Swashy wrote:Lol and by far the smallest seating capacity. ****ing cheapskates


Meh, lets get built and start filling it up every night before bitching about the seating capacity.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby Swashy » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:53 pm

A competent baseball team gets 20,000+ a night and playoffs up to 40,000. Location matters. There was no need to cap it off at 30,000. Do 40,000 if you wanna go small
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Postby DreadNaught » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:02 pm

Swashy wrote:A competent baseball team gets 20,000+ a night and playoffs up to 40,000. Location matters. There was no need to cap it off at 30,000. Do 40,000 if you wanna go small


I don't disagree, but cost to build it is a factor in getting this nightmare stadium issue over with.

I can't be certain, but I'd imagine the architects have a plan for potential expansion. I agree 40k would be good capacity. There is no upperdeck in the current design so perhaps it's possible to add it after a few years.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby NYBF » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:10 pm

Is that a glass roof?
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Postby NYBF » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:12 pm

Will MLB approve a stadium that maxes out at 30k?
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby Swashy » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:12 pm

NYBF wrote:Is that a glass roof?


Unfortunately yes
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Postby Kress » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:13 pm

I haven't read anything about the engineering of it, but why does that look like it's just going to be a big greenhouse? By appearance, it will be 140 degrees in there by 11:00 a.m.

And what's that gimmick behind home plate, second tier? Is that open to the outside, like some big indoor/outdoor porch?
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby Swashy » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:14 pm

NYBF wrote:Will MLB approve a stadium that maxes out at 30k?


I'll be shocked if they do. FFS I think there are MLS stadiums with greater capacity. Start at like 35,000 and max it out at 40,000. No one will bat an eye at that with attendance figures the way they are
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby NYBF » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:24 pm

$900 million to build a stadium that holds no one?

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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby Teitan » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:36 pm

Roof doesn’t appear to be glass. Just the back wall of windows.


Looks fine to me. I’ll enjoy games there. Don’t give a **** about capacity right now. Not like we’re busting at the seams in the Trop.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby Buc2 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:46 pm

I think smaller seating capacities will become the new normal as new stadiums are built. Especially in markets with a majority of fair weather fans.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby NYBF » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:49 pm

I can't see big market owners, who are the source of revenue sharing income for small market teams, will approve building a stadium with such a small capacity without some sort of revenue sharing relief.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby DreadNaught » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:58 pm

NYBF wrote:I can't see big market owners, who are the source of revenue sharing income for small market teams, will approve building a stadium with such a small capacity without some sort of revenue sharing relief.


There are handful of MLB parks whose capacity are in the 35-40k range including he Marlins recently opened stadium. So this plan for the Rays is only 5k off of that.

I'd be interested to understand the potential for expanding the seating capacity (adding an upperdeck, more outfield seats, etc).

I'm fine with current plans and keeping the initial construction costs down so this thing can get built. Once that happens and we're filling the new park up for a couple years we can complain about additional capacity, but it seems like a nice problem to have at this point given the current situation.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby NYBF » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:04 pm

DreadNaught wrote:
NYBF wrote:I can't see big market owners, who are the source of revenue sharing income for small market teams, will approve building a stadium with such a small capacity without some sort of revenue sharing relief.


There are handful of MLB parks whose capacity are in the 35-40k range including he Marlins recently opened stadium. So this plan for the Rays is only 5k off of that.

I'd be interested to understand the potential for expanding the seating capacity (adding an upperdeck, more outfield seats, etc).

I'm fine with current plans and keeping the initial construction costs down so this thing can get built. Once that happens and we're filling the new park up for a couple years we can complain about additional capacity, but it seems like a nice problem to have at this point given the current situation.


The smallest stadium (non-Tampa division) is 35k. With 28k fixed seats, the proposed Tampa park is 20% smaller than that. That is a huge difference.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby Buc2 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:24 pm

The Rays have been averaging just 14,745 attendance. This stadium will seat twice that with standing room up to 30K.

It will have see-through sliding glass walls, a fixed translucent roof, an artificial turf playing field and will be integrated into the historic Latin neighborhood with an evolving design.
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A smaller capacity-stadium fits into the new sports trend of maximizing premium seating areas with gathering spots around the stadium. Tropicana Field, in its latest configuration with upper seats tarped, has a capacity of 31,042. And it’s not like the Rays have been filling up the place, averaging, through Monday, 14,745 per game, second lowest in the majors.


Here's all the details:
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/rays/2018 ... m-details/
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby Bootz2004 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:00 pm

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I actually like it.


I do too. Its very different.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby nhbucsfan » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:11 pm

Who’s Going to pay for it? I remember the old tbtimes.com site whenever a story about a new stadium was written for every “I can’t wait” comment there was probably 10 “Not with a penny of my tax dollars!” comment.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby Nano » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:55 pm

nhbucsfan wrote:Who’s Going to pay for it? I remember the old tbtimes.com site whenever a story about a new stadium was written for every “I can’t wait” comment there was probably 10 “Not with a penny of my tax dollars!” comment.

That's going to be the fun part of these stadium talks. Everyone loves the idea of a shiny new stadium but nobody will want to pay for it. Whatever they do, they don't have much time to figure it out. The Rays only have until January to be able to negotiate out of their St. Pete deal. Miss that deadline and they're stuck in St. Pete until Stu moves the team in a couple years.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby Teitan » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:06 pm

Ill give two penny’s of my check. Boom.
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby Bootz2004 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:55 pm

Wasn't this supposed to be a terrible Rays team?
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby Buc2 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:05 am

If Tampa wants the Rays to play in Tampa, then Tampa should pony up the majority of the cash. Otherwise, stfu and let them stay in St. Pete or go to some other city that's willing to buy them a stadium once their contract is up at Tropicana. It's really that simple.

Richmond Rays has a nice ring to it. :D
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby Swashy » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:46 am

As far as I know Hillsborough isn't filled with grouchy old fucks who are delusional enough to think Tropicana Field is a perfectly good ballpark because it was hastily put together back in the 1980's and doesn't cost them anything extra right now. Talk to anyone out of state who has been to a Rays game and they're mortified to think that we call that home
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Re: ***OFFICIAL 2018 Tampa Bay Rays MLB Season Thread!***

Postby Phantom Phenom » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:16 pm

The Rays are now 48-44

Wild card?
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