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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:01 pm
by Mountaineer Buc
It's like betting on John Cena vs. Seth Rollins and letting the WWE set the odds.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:47 am
by StillCSG
uscbucsfan wrote:
NYBF wrote:I'm kinda shocked at how far down the odds have come.

I'm not. A large majority of people hate Mayweather. They are hoping to make money off the chance McGregor knocks him out. From day 1 there were huge bets on McGregor.


Wasn't McGregor something like a +900 underdog in the opening line...and something like +750 the day it was made official

That's damn sure worth a "punchers chance" bet...

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:32 am
by Alpha
StillCSG wrote:
uscbucsfan wrote:I'm not. A large majority of people hate Mayweather. They are hoping to make money off the chance McGregor knocks him out. From day 1 there were huge bets on McGregor.


Wasn't McGregor something like a +900 underdog in the opening line...and something like +750 the day it was made official

That's damn sure worth a "punchers chance" bet...



I saw it at McGregor +1100 (LV Hilton), after the odds were first posted.

Regardless...the "Punchers Chance" logic is why Vegas is still building bigger and "better" casinos to this very day. IF you have the cash (and the cajones)...betting on Mayweather is a very easy way to make a little money.

The only way to make this fight interesting is to prop bet it. And there are some ****ing awesome prop bets out there...

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:24 am
by NYBF
At anywhere from +750 to +1100, I'd throw a few bucks on it to see what happens. At +350,**** that.

And what is that stupid world tour? I saw a little bit of it last night. Looked like a bad stand up show.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:42 am
by Teitan
Yeah I see people eating it up too. Thinking that Connor is SOOO FUNNY!! and burning Merryweather so bad. It's so choreographed, fake and forced. They are probably best buds because they are making each other so much money.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:39 pm
by Deja Entendu
They really are both pretty hatable. I hope something happens where they both lose out on the cash grab.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:53 am
by acmillis
Deja Entendu wrote:They really are both pretty hatable. I hope something happens where they both lose out on the cash grab.

There is a prop bet out there that sets the over/under PPV buys at 4.99 million.

Mayweather Pacquiao only got +/- 4.6 million buys. My guess is that, the only way this is seen as a failure (money wise, because IMO, the fight will be worse than the Pac Man fight) is if the fight does under 4M PPV buys. I doubt it will do under 4M, but I don't see it breaking the 4.6M that the Pcaquiao fight did...I may be underestimating the stupidity of people in their willingness to pay for this crap.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:24 am
by uscbucsfan
acmillis wrote:
Deja Entendu wrote:They really are both pretty hatable. I hope something happens where they both lose out on the cash grab.

There is a prop bet out there that sets the over/under PPV buys at 4.99 million.

Mayweather Pacquiao only got +/- 4.6 million buys. My guess is that, the only way this is seen as a failure (money wise, because IMO, the fight will be worse than the Pac Man fight) is if the fight does under 4M PPV buys. I doubt it will do under 4M, but I don't see it breaking the 4.6M that the Pcaquiao fight did...I may be underestimating the stupidity of people in their willingness to pay for this crap.


If the ratings from the pressers are any indication it could shatter that 4.6m number. People are really interested in this circus.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:21 pm
by Crocaneers
So I really don't want to get sucked in ... but I think it's turning into a vortex.

McGregor started a GoFundMe for Floyd's back taxes

And .....

Did anyone see his suit jacket? They aren't stripes ....... Go

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:14 am
by Rocker
Crocaneers wrote:So I really don't want to get sucked in ... but I think it's turning into a vortex.

McGregor started a GoFundMe for Floyd's back taxes

And .....

Did anyone see his suit jacket? They aren't stripes ....... Go


Eh... I can be as crass as anyone. That suit was tasteless. I get the idea; but subtlety has its merits.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:07 am
by acmillis
This is more WWE than boxing or MMA. The are flying to each stop of the tour together on the same jet. McGregor went up to Mayweather and started touching his head. If they were not in on this together, it would have gotten physical right then.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:18 am
by MJW
uscbucsfan wrote:
acmillis wrote:There is a prop bet out there that sets the over/under PPV buys at 4.99 million.

Mayweather Pacquiao only got +/- 4.6 million buys. My guess is that, the only way this is seen as a failure (money wise, because IMO, the fight will be worse than the Pac Man fight) is if the fight does under 4M PPV buys. I doubt it will do under 4M, but I don't see it breaking the 4.6M that the Pcaquiao fight did...I may be underestimating the stupidity of people in their willingness to pay for this crap.


If the ratings from the pressers are any indication it could shatter that 4.6m number. People are really interested in this circus.


I'm taking the under. I know lots and lots of really dumb people who wear Tapout T-shirts and watch every UFC special. None of them are dumb enough to bet a wooden nickel on McGregor. With that general lack of faith in his chances, I'm not sure how many are going to shell out the money to see the fight.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:29 am
by uscbucsfan
MJW wrote:
uscbucsfan wrote:
If the ratings from the pressers are any indication it could shatter that 4.6m number. People are really interested in this circus.


I'm taking the under. I know lots and lots of really dumb people who wear Tapout T-shirts and watch every UFC special. None of them are dumb enough to bet a wooden nickel on McGregor. With that general lack of faith in his chances, I'm not sure how many are going to shell out the money to see the fight.


A ton of people have bet on McGregor. Westgate says 90% of all bets have been on McGregor.

Also, it's reported that McGrefor will get 120 million.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:41 am
by MJW
uscbucsfan wrote:
MJW wrote:
I'm taking the under. I know lots and lots of really dumb people who wear Tapout T-shirts and watch every UFC special. None of them are dumb enough to bet a wooden nickel on McGregor. With that general lack of faith in his chances, I'm not sure how many are going to shell out the money to see the fight.


A ton of people have bet on McGregor. Westgate says 90% of all bets have been on McGregor.

Also, it's reported that McGrefor will get 120 million.


I think those bets are from the same place that lotto ticket sales come from. It's a far cry from that and shelling out $100 or whatever for the PPV. But I could be wrong.

Personally, I don't think McGregor has any real chance at all. But if you gave me 100-1, I'd put a fiver on him anyway. I'm sure many economic behavioralists would have a lot to say on that, of course.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:59 am
by Mountaineer Buc
Anyone see the YouTube video of the English kid who photoshopped backstage passses to one of the press conference tour stops?

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:32 pm
by Alpha
Jesus-H-Suffering-Bald-Headed-Christ-on a See-Saw.

Do any of you idiots still think that the Irishman has a "punchers chance"?

Floyd is a despicable human being. That said...he's gonna kick that schlub's ass.

Wish I could see an MMA style fight and watch Floyd get choked out. That would be awesome...

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:45 am
by MJW
Alpha wrote:Jesus-H-Suffering-Bald-Headed-Christ-on a See-Saw.

Do any of you idiots still think that the Irishman has a "punchers chance"?

Floyd is a despicable human being. That said...he's gonna kick that schlub's ass.

Wish I could see an MMA style fight and watch Floyd get choked out. That would be awesome...


It's vaguely irritating there's 100x more ink being spilled on this carnival act than on Canelo-GGG, which has the chance to be a classic.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:07 am
by Mountaineer Buc
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:33 am
by NYBF
MJW wrote:
Alpha wrote:Jesus-H-Suffering-Bald-Headed-Christ-on a See-Saw.

Do any of you idiots still think that the Irishman has a "punchers chance"?

Floyd is a despicable human being. That said...he's gonna kick that schlub's ass.

Wish I could see an MMA style fight and watch Floyd get choked out. That would be awesome...


It's vaguely irritating there's 100x more ink being spilled on this carnival act than on Canelo-GGG, which has the chance to be a classic.


Speaking of which, where in Tampa can I watch this?

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:27 am
by Alpha
NYBF wrote:
MJW wrote:
It's vaguely irritating there's 100x more ink being spilled on this carnival act than on Canelo-GGG, which has the chance to be a classic.


Speaking of which, where in Tampa can I watch this?



The Press Box.

Dale Mabry.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:47 am
by Alpha
MJW wrote:
sanka wrote:Tyson would have destroyed Ali or Joe Louis with a 2nd or 3rd round knockout.


Children.

Tyson would have taken ten overhand rights to the face before he ever got inside against Ali, and by the time he did, Ali would have moved again. It would have looked like a pug hopping around the ring after his owner. Ali ate infighters for breakfast and Tyson would have presented less challenge than most because of his ridiculously short arms (Ali would have had an 8-10 inch reach advantage depending on your source.) So, the most nimble and slippery heavyweight in history, with a 10 inch reach advantage, against a fighter who had to get inside to win. I wish I could take all your money on that bet.

Meanwhile, I remember the entirety of Tyson's career in real time, and you know what I remember from his "dominant" era? Him destroying the worst group of Heavyweight contenders in history. He won his belts against Trevor Berbick, James Smith (?), and Tony Tucker. His most notable fighters were against way-past-their-primes Larry Holmes and Michael Spinks. The best fighter he probably fought in his prime was Frank Bruno. Razor Ruddock was a good fighter too, but his style was as poor a match for Tyson's as Tyson's was for Ali.

If Tyson had fought in the 70s, when you had Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Kenny Norton, Ron Lyle, Jimmy Young, Ernie Shavers, and Floyd Patterson, he'd have been a solid contender, but that would have been it. He was lucky to be in the AFC South of heavyweight eras.


I can't believed I skimmed passed Sanka's (repeated) stupidity.

What MJ said.

Sanka clearly is a young'n who never watched a Tyson fight, except on YouTube.

George Foreman would've taken Tyson's lunch money. Ali would've taken it and his lunch as well. Not to mention, Ali would've made Tyson look like a ****ing simpleton, months before they even fought. He would've mind-fucked Tyson into submission before the bell even rang.

Those tomato cans that Tyson fought had neither the skill nor the testicular fortitude that ANY of the men that MJ mentioned had. Frazier was tough as balls and had a defense that Tyson never would've touched. Shavers, Norton...all those guys were just tougher than Tyson. Mentally stronger. When Tyson fought a guy he couldn't intimidate, he got his ass kicked. Spinx nearly **** his pants before the bell rang against Tyson. I watched that fight. It was hilarious. He was VISIBLY scared.

I agree 100% with MJ. Patterson. Young....those cats would've SLAUGHTERED Tyson. Hell...I'd even wager there were Lt. Heavyweights, back in the day, that would've kicked Tyson's ass (and I'm excluding Holyfield, who was a LH).

Tyson was fortunate and a man of his times. Like MJ said...he was fighting the AFC South.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:21 am
by StillCSG
Alpha wrote:
MJW wrote:
Children.

Tyson would have taken ten overhand rights to the face before he ever got inside against Ali, and by the time he did, Ali would have moved again. It would have looked like a pug hopping around the ring after his owner. Ali ate infighters for breakfast and Tyson would have presented less challenge than most because of his ridiculously short arms (Ali would have had an 8-10 inch reach advantage depending on your source.) So, the most nimble and slippery heavyweight in history, with a 10 inch reach advantage, against a fighter who had to get inside to win. I wish I could take all your money on that bet.

Meanwhile, I remember the entirety of Tyson's career in real time, and you know what I remember from his "dominant" era? Him destroying the worst group of Heavyweight contenders in history. He won his belts against Trevor Berbick, James Smith (?), and Tony Tucker. His most notable fighters were against way-past-their-primes Larry Holmes and Michael Spinks. The best fighter he probably fought in his prime was Frank Bruno. Razor Ruddock was a good fighter too, but his style was as poor a match for Tyson's as Tyson's was for Ali.

If Tyson had fought in the 70s, when you had Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Kenny Norton, Ron Lyle, Jimmy Young, Ernie Shavers, and Floyd Patterson, he'd have been a solid contender, but that would have been it. He was lucky to be in the AFC South of heavyweight eras.


I can't believed I skimmed passed Sanka's (repeated) stupidity.

What MJ said.

Sanka clearly is a young'n who never watched a Tyson fight, except on YouTube.

George Foreman would've taken Tyson's lunch money. Ali would've taken it and his lunch as well. Not to mention, Ali would've made Tyson look like a ****ing simpleton, months before they even fought. He would've mind-fucked Tyson into submission before the bell even rang.

Those tomato cans that Tyson fought had neither the skill nor the testicular fortitude that ANY of the men that MJ mentioned had. Frazier was tough as balls and had a defense that Tyson never would've touched. Shavers, Norton...all those guys were just tougher than Tyson. Mentally stronger. When Tyson fought a guy he couldn't intimidate, he got his ass kicked. Spinx nearly **** his pants before the bell rang against Tyson. I watched that fight. It was hilarious. He was VISIBLY scared.

I agree 100% with MJ. Patterson. Young....those cats would've SLAUGHTERED Tyson. Hell...I'd even wager there were Lt. Heavyweights, back in the day, that would've kicked Tyson's ass (and I'm excluding Holyfield, who was a LH).

Tyson was fortunate and a man of his times. Like MJ said...he was fighting the AFC South.


Only 1 minor quibble....

Tyson didn't fight the AFC south of boxing heavyweights



He fought the MEAC Conference of boxing heavyweights

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:48 pm
by uscbucsfan
I read something that said only 1 out of every 32 bets are on Mayweather. If McGregor somehow pulled it out, it would be Vegas' worst loss in history.

Something tells me they aren't too worried.

Also, no one is buying tickets. Not shocking considering the price(up to 15k).

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:54 pm
by Swashy
I've got plenty of respect for what McGregor has done I've never seen a grown man with such a desperate need for attention.

It's almost as bad as this


Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:54 pm
by Alpha
MJW wrote:
uscbucsfan wrote:
If the ratings from the pressers are any indication it could shatter that 4.6m number. People are really interested in this circus.


I'm taking the under. I know lots and lots of really dumb people who wear Tapout T-shirts and watch every UFC special. None of them are dumb enough to bet a wooden nickel on McGregor....


And yet you Nebraska hayseeds voted for Trump.

I'm calling bullshit on your statement.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:47 am
by MJW
Alpha wrote:
MJW wrote:
I'm taking the under. I know lots and lots of really dumb people who wear Tapout T-shirts and watch every UFC special. None of them are dumb enough to bet a wooden nickel on McGregor....


And yet you Nebraska hayseeds voted for Trump.

I'm calling bullshit on your statement.


We also gave rise to Larry The Cable Guy, but we're still not dumb enough to bet any real money on the Irishman.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:22 am
by uscbucsfan
MJW wrote:
Alpha wrote:
And yet you Nebraska hayseeds voted for Trump.

I'm calling bullshit on your statement.


We also gave rise to Larry The Cable Guy, but we're still not dumb enough to bet any real money on the Irishman.


Maybe you aren't, but a ton of people have. I'm sure there were some in Nebraska.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:30 pm
by Alpha
uscbucsfan wrote:
MJW wrote:
We also gave rise to Larry The Cable Guy, but we're still not dumb enough to bet any real money on the Irishman.


Maybe you aren't, but a ton of people have.


A 'ton of people" have made Vegas what it is today.

Mainly by betting on the McGregor's of the world.

I found a co-worker to take my bet. I put up 100 against his 50. I friggin' only had to give 2/1 on a SURE THING.

There truly is a sucker born every minute.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:07 am
by terrytate
This fight makes me nervous. By every measure, Mayweather should clean McGregor's clock for him. Everyone knows his resume, and McGregor has never fought a legit pro, much less an all time great.

But......Mayweather has been out of the game for 2 years now. He's an over 40 athlete that relies on twitch and reflex and McGregor is much bigger and stronger. Will Mayweather look just like he did before, or will he come out and look like one of those older athletes that just looks like a slo mo version of themselves.

Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:01 pm
by Air-Buc-Pirate
Meh, I'll still watch this fight. It'll be entertaining.