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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby Alpha » Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:17 am

uscbucsfan wrote:
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Mighty bold statement considering Conner hasn't gone more than 5, 5 minute rounds before. And I'm not even sure he's gone the distance in a UFC title match. And McG was gassed by the 6th round.

McG showed better than I thought he would. He, by no means, embarrassed himself. He gave all that he could and was beaten by a great boxer. Well fought by both sides. If you payed for the fight, you got your money's worth.

That said, this was an easy MW win. Money in the bank and I'll be collecting m share :D

And don't get it twisted...if the ref didn't stop the fight. McG woulda gotten KNFO. I don't want to hear a bunch of bullshit tomorrow about how the ref shouldn't have stopped the fight...

Even McGregor agreed with the stoppage right after the fight. That'll probably change later, but he was finished.



Like I said...
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby uscbucsfan » Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:19 am

Alpha wrote:
uscbucsfan wrote:Even McGregor agreed with the stoppage right after the fight. That'll probably change later, but he was finished.



Like I said...

I'm already seeing it on fb.
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby Swashy » Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:19 am

Agreed to all. Almost everyone has been hit hard enough be it a punch, football etc to where they weren't knocked out but was seeing stars and disoriented from the blow for even a few moments. McGregor was there and he probably could have powered through it but to what end? Mayweather would've fought the last two rounds sharp as a tack and McGregor could've recovered but the fight ended there. The whole world knew Conor was seeing little Irish Tweety Birds.

He emptied out the tank by the 5th and was sucking wind by then. Goes to show how intelligent Mayweather was to let McGregor wear himself out
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby terrytate » Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:41 am

Swashy wrote:Agreed to all. Almost everyone has been hit hard enough be it a punch, football etc to where they weren't knocked out but was seeing stars and disoriented from the blow for even a few moments. McGregor was there and he probably could have powered through it but to what end? Mayweather would've fought the last two rounds sharp as a tack and McGregor could've recovered but the fight ended there. The whole world knew Conor was seeing little Irish Tweety Birds.

He emptied out the tank by the 5th and was sucking wind by then. Goes to show how intelligent Mayweather was to let McGregor wear himself out



That's Mayweather's MO. He always fights the first round or two on the defensive to feel out his opponent. Truth be told, I think Mayweather carried McGregor. Once he opened up the offense, he just stalked McGregor down like he was owed money and McGregor's offense dried up. Mayweather likely could have finished it a round or two earler.

Still, McGregor went 10 rounds and won as many as 4 rounds. Can't say it was a failure on his part.
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby Alpha » Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:44 am

terrytate wrote:Still, McGregor went 10 rounds and won as many as 4 rounds. Can't say it was a failure on his part.



Did as well or better than many of Mayweather's other opponents.

Not a bad fight. That said...glad I didn't pay money for it.
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby StillCSG » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:15 am

It was stopped about 30 seconds too soon...


Only because i wanted McGregor to be comatose on the canvas

He was finished...had he not been against the ropes he would have fell over from exhaustion
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby Swashy » Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:40 am

terrytate wrote:
Swashy wrote:Agreed to all. Almost everyone has been hit hard enough be it a punch, football etc to where they weren't knocked out but was seeing stars and disoriented from the blow for even a few moments. McGregor was there and he probably could have powered through it but to what end? Mayweather would've fought the last two rounds sharp as a tack and McGregor could've recovered but the fight ended there. The whole world knew Conor was seeing little Irish Tweety Birds.

He emptied out the tank by the 5th and was sucking wind by then. Goes to show how intelligent Mayweather was to let McGregor wear himself out



That's Mayweather's MO. He always fights the first round or two on the defensive to feel out his opponent. Truth be told, I think Mayweather carried McGregor. Once he opened up the offense, he just stalked McGregor down like he was owed money and McGregor's offense dried up. Mayweather likely could have finished it a round or two earler.

Still, McGregor went 10 rounds and won as many as 4 rounds. Can't say it was a failure on his part.


Well said I agree with that. I'd say McGregor might have a future in boxing. I don't like him at all but he can take a hit. And he got in just about as much offense as anyone can on Mayweather. I really can't fault McGregor for his strategy. He knew full and well he wasn't gonna break that wall down easily so he gave it everything he had and tried to end it early. Damned if you do damned if you don't if you're Conor McGregor. I think it is very likely if he plays it safe to conserve his energy and the fight goes the distance, Mayweather would likely have been awarded the decision because the offense he was getting in vs McGregor was quality vs quantity and he was more effective with what he was providing.

I gotta say, if they wanted to do a rematch I would watch it. Especially now that McGregor knows what he's up against.
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby MJW » Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:48 am

All the credit in the world to McGregor for holding his own and making the most of the opportunities Floyd (by design) gave him. He looks like he could transition into boxing and have a decent career, as others have said here. He'll probably never be in the league of someone like Floyd, but considering all the circumstances there's no shame in that.

That said, everything that happened, Floyd wanted to happen, and McGregor was powerless to stop it as it did. Floyd was never in danger. Those early round wins for McGregor never mattered, because it was never going to the cards. I have no doubt that if Floyd had wanted to, he could have overwhelmed him early. Instead he just let things play out the way almost all his fights do. Cover up the first few rounds. Let cracks start to develop as his opponent tires out. Start picking at him a bit. Frustrate him. Wait for the hands start to drop and the legs to drag, then attack.
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby terrytate » Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:48 pm

MJW wrote:All the credit in the world to McGregor for holding his own and making the most of the opportunities Floyd (by design) gave him. He looks like he could transition into boxing and have a decent career, as others have said here. He'll probably never be in the league of someone like Floyd, but considering all the circumstances there's no shame in that.

That said, everything that happened, Floyd wanted to happen, and McGregor was powerless to stop it as it did. Floyd was never in danger. Those early round wins for McGregor never mattered, because it was never going to the cards. I have no doubt that if Floyd had wanted to, he could have overwhelmed him early. Instead he just let things play out the way almost all his fights do. Cover up the first few rounds. Let cracks start to develop as his opponent tires out. Start picking at him a bit. Frustrate him. Wait for the hands start to drop and the legs to drag, then attack.



Floyd could have ended it early, but those first 4 rounds were the only ones where Mayweather was in any danger. McGregor could have knocked him out had he landed cleanly on the jaw when he was fresh. Mayweather knew he'd tire, just like he does in MMA after the third or fourth round, and then he opened up. It was downright clinical.
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby MJW » Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:28 pm

terrytate wrote:
MJW wrote:All the credit in the world to McGregor for holding his own and making the most of the opportunities Floyd (by design) gave him. He looks like he could transition into boxing and have a decent career, as others have said here. He'll probably never be in the league of someone like Floyd, but considering all the circumstances there's no shame in that.

That said, everything that happened, Floyd wanted to happen, and McGregor was powerless to stop it as it did. Floyd was never in danger. Those early round wins for McGregor never mattered, because it was never going to the cards. I have no doubt that if Floyd had wanted to, he could have overwhelmed him early. Instead he just let things play out the way almost all his fights do. Cover up the first few rounds. Let cracks start to develop as his opponent tires out. Start picking at him a bit. Frustrate him. Wait for the hands start to drop and the legs to drag, then attack.



Floyd could have ended it early, but those first 4 rounds were the only ones where Mayweather was in any danger. McGregor could have knocked him out had he landed cleanly on the jaw when he was fresh. Mayweather knew he'd tire, just like he does in MMA after the third or fourth round, and then he opened up. It was downright clinical.


I liken Floyd's fighting to those 90s New Jersey Devils teams with the neutral zone trap. It's dull. It's incredibly frustrating for the opponent. It can be downright painful to watch. But it wins.

In the meantime, as a friend of mine noted, "If they'd told Floyd he'd get paid double for a 1st round knockout, the fight would have been over in 2 minutes." Sure...McGregor COULD have landed the puncher's punch. He has that kind of power. But I don't think the vast majority of his lands were remotely as tough on Floyd as the announcers or the crowd pretended they were. I counted maybe 1 or 2 shots in those first few rounds that really seemed to make Floyd unhappy.

Also, this seems worth noting...I've never seen a fighter not lose a point for that many rabbit punches. Under different circumstances, he could have been DQ'd. I get the ref was giving Connor a long leash and I get why. But he landed more punches to the back of Floyd's neck while facing him than he did to any other part of his body.
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby Bootz2004 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:33 pm

Landing clean punches on Mayweather. Yea right. Full time boxers have a hard enough time doing so. McGregor wasn't going to do that with any consistency. And he didn't.
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby Swashy » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:06 pm

MJW wrote:
terrytate wrote:

Floyd could have ended it early, but those first 4 rounds were the only ones where Mayweather was in any danger. McGregor could have knocked him out had he landed cleanly on the jaw when he was fresh. Mayweather knew he'd tire, just like he does in MMA after the third or fourth round, and then he opened up. It was downright clinical.


I liken Floyd's fighting to those 90s New Jersey Devils teams with the neutral zone trap. It's dull. It's incredibly frustrating for the opponent. It can be downright painful to watch. But it wins.


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You have no idea how much I agree with that comparison nor how spot on I find it to be.
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby PrimeMinister » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:20 pm

I think some of you are missing that Floyd did not fight McGregor like your standard "Mayweather Defensive Specialist" fight. Floyd went forward all night even in the early rounds. He stayed in front of McGregor and didn't try that hard to slip his shots. I think Floyd wanted his last fight to have some action for the fans and knew Conor couldn't hurt him.

I agree with MJW on a few points. This fight could have ended in 1 round, but Floyd extended the fight. He barely threw anything early and just played with Conor. He let the crowd get hype before ending it and giving them their money's worth. Also I was sick and tired of Conor's cheap shots and cheating. He threw 25+ rabbit punches and received nothing beyond a few warnings. That's dangerous (although to his credit Floyd didn't complain after the first time) and a piss poor job by the ref.

Mayweather did a great job of carrying Conor into the later rounds and putting on a good show for us. Hope he enjoys retirement.
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby uscbucsfan » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:49 am

6.5 million PPV buys, previous record was 4.9.

Crazy.
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:30 am

I gotta eat some crow on this fight. I was absolutely convinced this whole thing was a fix and that they would have a predetermined outcome getting the two of them an easy payday. Believing this, I took several giant shits in this thread. Well, now I gotta clean it up.

It is possible, that Mayweather carried Mac to give fans their money's worth, but that seems less the case. I never imagined this would have gone 10 rounds. Both men showed up to fight so I gotta respect that.
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby uscbucsfan » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:58 am

Mountaineer Buc wrote:I gotta eat some crow on this fight. I was absolutely convinced this whole thing was a fix and that they would have a predetermined outcome getting the two of them an easy payday. Believing this, I took several giant shits in this thread. Well, now I gotta clean it up.

It is possible, that Mayweather carried Mac to give fans their money's worth, but that seems less the case. I never imagined this would have gone 10 rounds. Both men showed up to fight so I gotta respect that.


Mayweather bet on himself to win via knock out before 9.5 rounds and won. He tried to bet 400k, but was only allowed to bet 87k. If the fight would have lasted 10 more second he would have lost. This is an argument people are using that he carried the fight, but if he would have knocked out Conor in round 1 he would have won the bet.

I think McGregor did a lot better than expected from most of us and Mayweather, but Mayweather was never in any danger. It was a better fight than the Pacquiao fight.
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby Selmon Rules » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:00 pm

I didn't watch the fight and really had little interest in it but I would have paid to see it if they had structured it differently, 2 rounds of boxing rules followed by 1 round MMA.... Repeat until knockout/submission or 12 rounds, whichever comes first
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby terrytate » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:37 pm

Selmon Rules wrote:I didn't watch the fight and really had little interest in it but I would have paid to see it if they had structured it differently, 2 rounds of boxing rules followed by 1 round MMA.... Repeat until knockout/submission or 12 rounds, whichever comes first



Mayweather wouldn't have signed up for that. He was there for the fat and easy paycheck, not to prove anything.
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby Alpha » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:11 am

In retrospect...they should've made it a non-sanctioned, "exhibition" fight.

Negotiate whatever details they wanted.

Kind of like "match races" in horse racing, back in the day.

That way, Floyd's record isn't in jeopardy. They can go at it instead of that "fight" we saw.
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Re: McGregor v. Merryweather

Postby Shadowhawk » Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:49 pm

PrimeMinister wrote:I think some of you are missing that Floyd did not fight McGregor like your standard "Mayweather Defensive Specialist" fight. Floyd went forward all night even in the early rounds. He stayed in front of McGregor and didn't try that hard to slip his shots. I think Floyd wanted his last fight to have some action for the fans and knew Conor couldn't hurt him.

I agree with MJW on a few points. This fight could have ended in 1 round, but Floyd extended the fight. He barely threw anything early and just played with Conor. He let the crowd get hype before ending it and giving them their money's worth. Also I was sick and tired of Conor's cheap shots and cheating. He threw 25+ rabbit punches and received nothing beyond a few warnings. That's dangerous (although to his credit Floyd didn't complain after the first time) and a piss poor job by the ref.

Mayweather did a great job of carrying Conor into the later rounds and putting on a good show for us. Hope he enjoys retirement.


He kept coming forward for one reason only. He knew McGregor wasn't conditioned to fight a long fight but was undisciplined enough to keep throwing shots. He wore McGregor out without taking damage until McGregor couldn't keep his gloves up.
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