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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Swashy » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:07 pm

lmfao so now we're gonna sign a guy who can't even play right now? Hollllyyy crap it's gonna be a long year
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Bootz2004 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:39 pm

To a 1 year deal no less LMAO!!
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Nano » Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:19 pm

It has a club option for 2018 if his rehab goes well.

That doesn't change the fact that we paid 2 mil for a guy that won't play this year.
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Mother Ayahuasca » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:33 pm

Ever heard of a buy-low investment opportunity?
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Swashy » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:05 pm

Mother Ayahuasca wrote:Ever heard of a buy-low investment opportunity?


Well of course but when I think of an investment opportunity for the future I think of something along the lines of when we traded Forsythe for De Leon. Considering we are in rebuilding mode it's a trade that's a kick in the balls but it's the proper kind of trade you make if you're serious about restocking the pitching pipeline. As for a guy like Eovaldi of course the operative words here were "buy low." But it just seems hypocritical to me that the Rays would dump a couple million bucks on a completely average player who may never play again and won't even play for us THIS YEAR when the Rays front office gives the same, "We need to spend carefully" speech that they do every year. And you know what? I completely get that and never get upset when the Rays say that. We don't support the team well, our ballpark is awful and I doubt we ever turn a serious profit.

If this were a multi-year deal I'd be singing a completely different song right now because at least it would see Eovaldi through is rehab. But no matter what happens he'ss gonna cash in and by this time next year the Rays front office is gonna come out to the world $2 million lighter with their pockets turned out.
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Swashy » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:09 pm

But at the end of the day this feels nothing more than a Hail Mary so the front office can say, "Look at what we did. We gave this guy a chance when no one else would!" when he goes back to throwing for an ERA above 4 like he always has. Our office lacks credibility right now because almost every move we'd made over the last 3 years has completely backfired and God knows we haven't drafted a legitimate #1 prospect since David Price almost 10 years ago. We've got the 4th overall pick this year and if we manage to balk at this one then we might as well just fire the whole damn scouting staff.

The sad truth is if this signing actually DID work out it would rank up there with one of the bigger boosts this team has gotten since trading for Wil Myers -and that's not saying a whole lot.
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Ken Carson » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:15 pm

Cobb and Archer have looked really good so far.
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Nano » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:03 am

Kiermaier got an extension. 6 years, 53.5 mill

Rays haven't looked terrible during ST, so that's improvement
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Phantom Phenom » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:48 pm

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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Swashy » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:50 am

Phantom Phenom wrote:http://www.chatsports.com/mlb/a/source/if-braves-want-to-win-they-must-trade-for-evan-longoria-right-now-13350304


lol wishful thinking on their end. That trade ain't gonna happen unless A+ players are coming back. If Evan is happy here then don't trade him until someone pays out their nose. This Rays team isn't going anywhere fast and I think a rebuild has been in order for some time now.
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Phantom Phenom » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:45 am

Dan Hayes of CSN Chicago reports that the Rays have acquired Peter Bourjos from the White Sox in exchange for cash considerations.
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Phantom Phenom » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:19 pm

Rays principal owner Stuart Sternberg still expects to conclude the search for a new stadium site in the Tampa Bay area this year, but revealed Thursday that they have been denied their top choice, or even top two.

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"We had some ideas on locations that just weren't available, that I thought would have worked perfectly, but they're off the table,'' Sternberg said in Port Charlotte. "So we're sort of moving down our list to Nos. 2, 3 and 4. It's like starting pitchers, you have five of them and sometimes No. 4 is better than No. 2, but rarely better than No. 1. The No. 1 is the No. 1. I hate to be mixing these sort of metaphors, but it sort of works in this case.

"We did have a choice that we thought that was going to be ideal, a choice or two, and it was going to be unavailable. We would have had to flesh it out. But we're working and trying to find out what will be next best.''

Sternberg would not say where that site was, or even whether it was in Pinellas or Hillsborough.

Asked how confident he was their years long search would conclude with a workable site in the Tampa Bay area, Sternberg said: "It's unknown at this point.''

Sternberg said several times that the search process is "not being done in a vacuum,'' and involves participation and cooperation from land owners, city and county officials and MLB, which he updates through commissioner Rob Manfred.

"We have to work with Major League Baseball to show them we have a pro forma that actually makes some sense to spend the next 50 years,'' Sternberg said.

Sternberg said there is no deadline, except the deal with St. Petersburg to be allowed to look elsewhere. He said in February he expected conclusion by August, but said Thursday it could take until the end of the year.

"Nobody wants this process to move quicker than we do," he said. "Because the sooner we are able to get something done the quicker we're able to ramp up our revenues and know where our future's going to be for the next set of generations to come, but it's an important process and we're not doing this in a vacuum. We're working with various cities on both sides of the bay, we're working with the different counties on both sides of the bay, we're working with MLB to a point as well, landowners sometimes in some cases. It's a complicated process.''

Sternberg has been optimistic something can be worked out in the Tampa Bay area.

Sternberg said one reason for optimism is that their fan base will continue to grow over time, that fans who were kids when the Rays emerged as a contending team in 2008 and just getting to adulthood.

"That's been my mantra all along, a fan base is built generationally,'' he said. "That's been my plea to MLB
... is that the generational thing can take some hold. That's the case I'm making to baseball and to others why MLB will work here if you give it a reasonable enough time if you give it a reasonable enough time, another generation and we're halfway into this generation.''

Manfred last month said he was optimistic a solution would be found in the Tampa Bay market; Stemberg said Thursday that is based on what he has told Manfred.

"Most of what they know about the area is what they see in the data and the numbers, which are not pretty, and in the way I portray our situation anecdotally and what I'm hoping to accomplish, which I think is very optimisitic,'' Sternberg said.

"And Rob is trusting me and trusting our judgement that when we come with a plan with somebody or some group on one side of the bay that it's going to be a good plan and something that wull pass muster with him and with the rest of the owners in MLB.''

Interestingly, Sternberg noted how Braves officials "surprised everyone" by working out a deal in relative secret - "in the middle of the night, where there is this huge tract of land and discussions have happened. ...

"You need a big chunk of land for that and you need to be working with a municipality that has got their stuff together and ready to go and is really looking to get something done.''
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Kress » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:08 am

Phantom Phenom wrote:"Because the sooner we are able to get something done the quicker we're able to ramp up our revenues



That's an odd statement. They have been crying poverty for years, when it comes to paying for players, anyway, but now they can "ramp up" their revenues on demand?
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Phantom Phenom » Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:34 pm

Good start Rays. 1-0 over the Yankees in 1st inning season opener
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Nano » Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:43 pm

7-2 now and Tanaka lasted 2.2 innings. I like this start
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Teitan » Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:44 pm

Bats starting off hot today.
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:34 pm

Teitan wrote:Bats starting off hot today.

Cold as hell tonight.
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Bootz2004 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:44 pm

Sounds like the Rays are already in mid season form.
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Nano » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:23 pm

Baseball reviews suck
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:52 pm

Looking good so far tonight, but this Jays pitcher is a hot mess. Given up 4 runs, 4 walks, and just loaded the bases.


Oh, and when did Rocco Baldelli become a base coach? Blast from the past.
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:53 pm

.... Aaaaaand they pulled out the pitcher after a third of an inning.
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Nano » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:04 pm

Liriano has an ERA of 135 lmao
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Swashy » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:06 pm

Our pitching is going to be the death of us
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Teitan » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:09 pm

They'll be ok. Our offense is looking good this season.
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Nano » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:10 pm

The only positives I can take from this game is that my pizza will be half off tomorrow
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Kress » Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:20 am

Mountaineer Buc wrote:
Oh, and when did Rocco Baldelli become a base coach? Blast from the past.



For several years now.
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Mountaineer Buc » Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:02 pm

Kress wrote:
Mountaineer Buc wrote:
Oh, and when did Rocco Baldelli become a base coach? Blast from the past.



For several years now.

I never noticed, but I didn't get many Rays games in WV
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Nano » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:09 pm

9 walks
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Nano » Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:16 pm

It took us until August to have a winning homestand last season. This year, it only took the first two series. Rays are 5-2.
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Re: OFFICIAL 2017 TBay Rays Major League Baseball Season Thr

Postby Teitan » Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:50 pm

Nano wrote:It took us until August to have a winning homestand last season. This year, it only took the first two series. Rays are 5-2.



Looking much more impressive than I expected. Maybe Shelton really was the problem all along.
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