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Re: MMA Thread

Postby real bucs fan » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:30 am

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real bucs fan wrote:I prefer exciting fights more than the hot names tbh, but I know I'm in the minority. I like fighters who want to stand and trade. Khabib and GSP are obviously all-timers, but they just are boring as hell to watch IMO. I'd probably try and book that matchup, and then enjoy the rest of that division which is loaded with fun fighters who want to knock heads off.

Good grappling is exciting to me. It's all part of MMA.

They are big names because they are great fighters.

Ferguson and Pettis would absolutely push the action vs Conor. Someone would either be knocked out or a doctor stoppage. Conor v. Khabib had some really good stand up, some awesome GnP, good grappling/TDD, and then a lot of laying around. It was a pretty good fight IMO, just not as good as the Pettis v. Ferguson fight or the Lewis v. Volkov fight.

Btw...Reyes absolutely KO'd OSP.

edit: Overall UFC 229 was an awesome card. Well worth $65, IMO.

I definitely recognize the talent involved and how impressive and unstoppable elite grappling is, and how it fits into MMA, I just don't find it that interesting to watch.

And I do agree it was a great card, hopefully the UFC can step up their next 2 cards as they aren't looking too hot at the moment.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby terrytate » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:53 pm

real bucs fan wrote:
uscbucsfan wrote:Good grappling is exciting to me. It's all part of MMA.

They are big names because they are great fighters.

Ferguson and Pettis would absolutely push the action vs Conor. Someone would either be knocked out or a doctor stoppage. Conor v. Khabib had some really good stand up, some awesome GnP, good grappling/TDD, and then a lot of laying around. It was a pretty good fight IMO, just not as good as the Pettis v. Ferguson fight or the Lewis v. Volkov fight.

Btw...Reyes absolutely KO'd OSP.

edit: Overall UFC 229 was an awesome card. Well worth $65, IMO.

I definitely recognize the talent involved and how impressive and unstoppable elite grappling is, and how it fits into MMA, I just don't find it that interesting to watch.

And I do agree it was a great card, hopefully the UFC can step up their next 2 cards as they aren't looking too hot at the moment.



It's not elite grappling that is boring, it's when you get a top control special like the first round of Kabob/Connor. I've seen too many fights where a wrestler gets a guy down who has good cardio and bottom defense, and it turns into a 3 or 5 round fight of one guy laying on another.

That's a big reason why I've never been a fan of Khabib. That and he gets hurt a lot and looks like a threat to tie up with belt for a long time while recovering from an injury.

As for Fergusun, he reminds me a lot of prime Nick Diaz. Endless cardio, relentless pace and no fear of being taken down because his bottom game is great.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby real bucs fan » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:03 pm

terrytate wrote:
real bucs fan wrote:I definitely recognize the talent involved and how impressive and unstoppable elite grappling is, and how it fits into MMA, I just don't find it that interesting to watch.

And I do agree it was a great card, hopefully the UFC can step up their next 2 cards as they aren't looking too hot at the moment.



It's not elite grappling that is boring, it's when you get a top control special like the first round of Kabob/Connor. I've seen too many fights where a wrestler gets a guy down who has good cardio and bottom defense, and it turns into a 3 or 5 round fight of one guy laying on another.

That's a big reason why I've never been a fan of Khabib. That and he gets hurt a lot and looks like a threat to tie up with belt for a long time while recovering from an injury.

As for Fergusun, he reminds me a lot of prime Nick Diaz. Endless cardio, relentless pace and no fear of being taken down because his bottom game is great.

Ya I like Ferguson as a fighter too. I’d even say he’s more impressive an athlete than either Diaz brother (who are both rather average athletes) and has more power, but his striking isn’t quite as technically excellent.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby PrimeMinister » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:09 pm

real bucs fan wrote:
uscbucsfan wrote:I don't think Conor/Nate 3 is a big draw. I certainly wouldn't watch it again. I would absolutely watch Khabib, Ferguson, Pettis, or GSP v Conor.

I prefer exciting fights more than the hot names tbh, but I know I'm in the minority. I like fighters who want to stand and trade. Khabib and GSP are obviously all-timers, but they just are boring as hell to watch IMO. I'd probably try and book that matchup, and then enjoy the rest of that division which is loaded with fun fighters who want to knock heads off.


I love exciting fights just like you. I happen to see Khabib’s wrestling style as exciting while you clearly do not. Conor v Khabib was as an amazing fight as Conor v Nate 1 in my opinion. I was not as interested in Conor v Nate 2 simply because the blueprint to beat Nate is so damn easy that as long as you’re disciplined you have a clear path to victory. I’d rather see Conor v Khabib or Ferguson. Conor showed the ability to adjust and execute a different gameplan when he fought Diaz the 2nd time. I would like to see his new gameplan vs Khabib.

I know some fans like yourself only want to see striking wars, but I really enjoy MMA. I love watching a great striker deal with a great grappler. Depending on the levels of skill and disciplines that story can go either way.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby PrimeMinister » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:14 pm

terrytate wrote:
real bucs fan wrote:I definitely recognize the talent involved and how impressive and unstoppable elite grappling is, and how it fits into MMA, I just don't find it that interesting to watch.

And I do agree it was a great card, hopefully the UFC can step up their next 2 cards as they aren't looking too hot at the moment.



It's not elite grappling that is boring, it's when you get a top control special like the first round of Kabob/Connor. I've seen too many fights where a wrestler gets a guy down who has good cardio and bottom defense, and it turns into a 3 or 5 round fight of one guy laying on another.

That's a big reason why I've never been a fan of Khabib. That and he gets hurt a lot and looks like a threat to tie up with belt for a long time while recovering from an injury.

As for Fergusun, he reminds me a lot of prime Nick Diaz. Endless cardio, relentless pace and no fear of being taken down because his bottom game is great.


I doubt you have watched much Khabib. If so you’d know he doesn’t lay n pray. He disables his opponent the ground & pounds until they break. Watch Khabib vs Michael Johnson or Barbosa and tell me that’s just laying on a guy. To be fair I generally don’t like the old school wrestlers, including GSP, because of the lack of action. Wrestlers like Khabib and Cormier are a pleasure to watch. Both put constant pressure on the opponent, but in entirely different ways. Both also have enough power to be respected on the feet. I will watch either of them fight any day.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby terrytate » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:09 am

PrimeMinister wrote:
terrytate wrote:

It's not elite grappling that is boring, it's when you get a top control special like the first round of Kabob/Connor. I've seen too many fights where a wrestler gets a guy down who has good cardio and bottom defense, and it turns into a 3 or 5 round fight of one guy laying on another.

That's a big reason why I've never been a fan of Khabib. That and he gets hurt a lot and looks like a threat to tie up with belt for a long time while recovering from an injury.

As for Fergusun, he reminds me a lot of prime Nick Diaz. Endless cardio, relentless pace and no fear of being taken down because his bottom game is great.


I doubt you have watched much Khabib. If so you’d know he doesn’t lay n pray. He disables his opponent the ground & pounds until they break. Watch Khabib vs Michael Johnson or Barbosa and tell me that’s just laying on a guy. To be fair I generally don’t like the old school wrestlers, including GSP, because of the lack of action. Wrestlers like Khabib and Cormier are a pleasure to watch. Both put constant pressure on the opponent, but in entirely different ways. Both also have enough power to be respected on the feet. I will watch either of them fight any day.



You're right, I haven't. Near every PPV I would have seen him in, he pulled out of with injury. I think the two I saw were the Tibau and maybe the RDA fights. I remember he couldn't get Tibau down and it was a three round wall and stall flail fest.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby PrimeMinister » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:58 am

terrytate wrote:
PrimeMinister wrote:
I doubt you have watched much Khabib. If so you’d know he doesn’t lay n pray. He disables his opponent the ground & pounds until they break. Watch Khabib vs Michael Johnson or Barbosa and tell me that’s just laying on a guy. To be fair I generally don’t like the old school wrestlers, including GSP, because of the lack of action. Wrestlers like Khabib and Cormier are a pleasure to watch. Both put constant pressure on the opponent, but in entirely different ways. Both also have enough power to be respected on the feet. I will watch either of them fight any day.



You're right, I haven't. Near every PPV I would have seen him in, he pulled out of with injury. I think the two I saw were the Tibau and maybe the RDA fights. I remember he couldn't get Tibau down and it was a three round wall and stall flail fest.


Check out the two fights I mentioned. Both are on YouTube. I’d love to hear your thoughts on those performances.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby uscbucsfan » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:51 pm

Fedor wrecked Sonnen.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby PrimeMinister » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:00 am

Sonnen has made a successful career getting wrecked by legends.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby uscbucsfan » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:33 pm

That was a shitty fight. Lewis has 0 technique. All he ever had was a punchers chance. He barely trained for the fight. Just shows how weak the heavyweight division is right now.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby PrimeMinister » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:36 am

uscbucsfan wrote:That was a shitty fight. Lewis has 0 technique. All he ever had was a punchers chance. He barely trained for the fight. Just shows how weak the heavyweight division is right now.


That was the easiest fight I’ve seen Cormier take in years. Absolutely easy work.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby PrimeMinister » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:41 pm

Watching the TUF prelims. It’s good to see new heavyweights. Maurice Green has a bright future if he gets with the right camp.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby Snake » Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:04 pm

Jon Jones produces drug test with anabolic metabolite. UFC moves even to California because Nevada won’t sanction fight
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby Phantom Phenom » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:00 pm

Daniel Cormier to relinquish UFC light heavyweight title
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby Snake » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:14 pm

Jon Jones has an iron chin so it probably won’t happen but man would I love to see him get starched tomorrow night. This USADA thing has been a total disaster and illegitimizes the sport IMO.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby PrimeMinister » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:32 pm

UFC fucked up when they made steroid testing a big deal. They should follow the lead of the NFL & NBA. Don’t make it a big deal and fans won’t give a damn. Instead they followed the lead of the MLB like dumbasses.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby Phantom Phenom » Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:41 am

Did someone check her gloves for infinity stones?!?! God....damn!!!

Cyborg lost
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby PrimeMinister » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:28 am

She shocked me. Never would have guessed she could win by 1st round KO.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby PrimeMinister » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:31 am

Glad to see Jones back with the belt. Cormier vs Jones @ Heavyweight would be fun.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby Snake » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:43 am

I put some money on Nunes last night so I’m not surprised she won but I didn’t expect it to be over so quickly. When she hits people it’s something different. She catches them at the full extension of her punches which seems to give them man-like power. She was basically spamming 1-2s and then when Cyborg was rocked she started throwing overhand bombs. Women’s MMA is starting to rack up those special fights man
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I also loved to see the steroid cheat Cyborg lose. Women have permanent benefits from abusing anabolic because it’s changes their anatomical structure.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby real bucs fan » Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:10 pm

Not surprised by Nunes.

Biggest surprise to me was how good Jones looked. That was the best Jones we’ve seen in a while.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby NYBF » Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:40 pm

PrimeMinister wrote:Glad to see Jones back with the belt. Cormier vs Jones @ Heavyweight would be fun.


You think he stays clean long enough to fight again?
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby uscbucsfan » Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:52 pm

PrimeMinister wrote:Glad to see Jones back with the belt. Cormier vs Jones @ Heavyweight would be fun.

I see no reason for Jones to go to HW. It's bad for him. He's already beaten Cormier twice, handily. Why go up where Cormier will still outweigh him by 20 lbs (Jones' camp believe the most he can get to healthily is 225 and he doesn't want to stay there, so he'd have to drop that weight) It's a losing situation for him.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby BJJ34 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:58 pm

Is the Dillashaw/Cejudo fight on ESPN or is it exclusively on ESPN+?

Also, was watching some Instagram of Joe Rogan's kicks... wow. Dude can still throw some vicious head kicks, shame he never got to showcase his talent in the cage at least once.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby Rocker » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:29 pm

BJJ34 wrote:Is the Dillashaw/Cejudo fight on ESPN or is it exclusively on ESPN+?

Also, was watching some Instagram of Joe Rogan's kicks... wow. Dude can still throw some vicious head kicks, shame he never got to showcase his talent in the cage at least once.


I agree. If that cat got in the octagon; he’s probably putting someone’s arm on his mantle.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby Wesmon » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:54 pm

BJJ34 wrote:Is the Dillashaw/Cejudo fight on ESPN or is it exclusively on ESPN+?

Also, was watching some Instagram of Joe Rogan's kicks... wow. Dude can still throw some vicious head kicks, shame he never got to showcase his talent in the cage at least once.


ESPN+ only. The lineup is weird. The early prelims are ESPN+. The prelims are on ESPN and then the main card is ESPN+. Figure I will sign up for the free trial to watch.

This card also has Greg Hardy's UFC debut. He had a couple fights on the Contender series and looked good.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby Snake » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:04 am

Greg Hardy is a piece of **** in all facets of life.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby PrimeMinister » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:40 am

I’ve just watched the Hardy fight. Absolutely unimpressive as a fighter along with being a POS. His jab is more of a reaching push instead of a snap/punch. He doesn’t setup punches. Hardy won’t last 3 fights in the UFC. His technique is that of someone who shouldn’t be in the UFC.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby BJJ34 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:28 pm

Minus the Hardy fight, a very good card that the UFC put on last night. As for ESPN's broadcast, I'll get to that later.

TJ Dillashaw is a poor loser, he was defintely rocked with that punch behind the ear and I can see the argument about past fights but he was dazed. Decent stoppage.

Cowboy Versus McGregor, would pay to see that. Cowboy is a fan favorite with a big name draw for the company. Dangerous opponent for McGregor too with his all around skill set. Also long live the WEC.

Hardy fight... Hardy is a name that the company was trying to push. You could tell he'd never been in an actual fight he'd only ever been in brawls before where his power and athleticism would dominate the opponent. Crowder took his best shot and clearly showed that when he started show boating before the illegal knee.

PVZ... I'd like to see her tested a little more. She's a good fighter, and fun to watch and clearly her family is all about the fighting as she's married to an underground fighter. Good name for the UFC to push against maybe a tougher opponent.

Still think Flyweight is going to be shut down regardless of what Cejudo did last night though.
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Re: MMA Thread

Postby uscbucsfan » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:51 pm

I didn't watch last night, but PVZ is not a good fighter. She's attractive and that's why the UFC is trying to protect her. She has a big following, but she's had 3 bad losses in her short career in the UFC.
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